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Pygmalion · 14-01-2010 12:26AM

Jackobyte wrote: »

I have never noticed posts relating to drugs/smoking before though.

I never have until a couple of days ago, even though I never really considered the negative aspects of talking about alcohol here before I thought this was a bit far, I can't remember what thread(s?) it was in but I assume it's gone now.

Jay P · 14-01-2010 01:18AM

At the risk of being ridiculed by absolutely everyone else here, I would like to point out this is a teen and young adult forum. Granted, the alcohol topics can be very....crass, and not very intelligent. I do understand there are posters with sensitive eyes, but the majority don't, so there shouldn't be any reason to ban such discussions...

D4RK ONION · 14-01-2010 02:11AM

No one is talking about banning such discussions, I did point out and explain my opinion from this regard. I have no problem with discussion of alcohol, but "boys I was sooooooo mouldy" last night is neither interesting to read, nor is it helpful in any way. Maturity is the key word here I believe. Again, my problems lie less with that and more with the sort of crass which went on in the playpen forum.

Also, anyone who knows me in real (that's you!) knows that I'm very pro freedom of speech, I'm probably the second most vulgar humoured person I know after all.

syncosised · 14-01-2010 11:56AM

I basically meant what the others are clarifying now, the general discussion of alcohol should be allowed, it's definitely something that affects young people and they should be able to come here for advice and such. The problem is with people detailing their drunken (mis)adventures, or breaking the forum's charter by encouraging young people to drunk, even if in an indirect and unintended manner.

Fad · 14-01-2010 12:28PM

Tales of one's misadventure can be hilarious in hindsight.

If it amuses others, I fail to see the problem, this is a fairly light hearted forum.

But yeah, it could probably be cut back a little, I'll avoid drunken posting >_>

Jay P · 14-01-2010 01:56PM

Ok, it's good it was clarified

I did read the posts, just not really carefully.

Jackobyte · 14-01-2010 05:45PM

I have no problem with conversations about alcohol, its when you are severely pissed, like at 3.30 in the morning, and you come on and just post something riddled with spelling mistakes that doesn't make sense.

jumpguy · 14-01-2010 06:42PM

Fad wrote: »

Tales of one's misadventure can be hilarious in hindsight.

If it amuses others, I fail to see the problem, this is a fairly light hearted forum.

But yeah, it could probably be cut back a little, I'll avoid drunken posting >_>

I don't think your drunken posts have ever been bad tbh, sometimes abit off-topic but never really vulgar, nonsensical and your spelling is grand. :-/

Insect Overlord · 14-01-2010 06:51PM

Just to let ye know, I usually respond to PMs fairly quickly, so between that system and the 'Report Post' function you can always bring things to someone's attention if you're not happy about it. The vast majority of issues can be solved quickly and painlessly.

Jay P · 14-01-2010 08:16PM

Jackobyte wrote: »

I have no problem with conversations about alcohol, its when you are severely pissed, like at 3.30 in the morning, and you come on and just post something riddled with spelling mistakes that doesn't make sense.

Personally, I don't see a whole lot wrong with these posts, unless they become vulgar. They can be pretty funny.

bythewoods · 19-01-2010 01:13AM

TBH, we should just ban all discussion in this forum that may be slightly inappropriate to anyone at all. All humour ought to be completely ruled out.

Like, honestly, I'd like it if we all just discussed our favourite soft drinks and icecream flavours all day. Would that be better for everyone?
I know I'd be happier.

Fad · 19-01-2010 01:17AM

Can we have a sub forum :eek: ?

Sodapop and Icecream?

(Or sodapop and (m)icecream so we could call it S&M

)

Pygmalion · 19-01-2010 01:30AM

Fad wrote: »

Can we have a sub forum :eek: ?

Sodapop and Icecream?

(Or sodapop and (m)icecream so we could call it S&M )

Coke and Honeycomb, it could be called C&H for short

Aoibheann · 19-01-2010 01:40AM

In fairness, a little bit of semi-responsible posting now and again really doesn't do anyone any harm. To be fair, there's plenty of places you can go posting about how "OMFG I AM LOCKED LOLZ /falls over" - other forums here, your own facebook page should you have one, etc etc. This forum is supposed to be for teens and young adults. Considering it's illegal for a large number of the forum regulars to drink, it's excluding them, rubbing the fact that you *can* drink in their faces and setting a fairly messy example all at the same time. There's no harm in having reasonable discussions about it IMO, but it gets to the point where seeing "OMFFGG I'Z S'WAAAAAAAASTED" and really messy posts (I am pedantic and a bit of a spelling/grammar nazi at times) becomes a tad irritating.

I think we have plenty to talk about as it is, without people making such silly contributions to the forum. I don't want anyone to take offence to this (and no, this is not one of those "No offence, but.." times), you're all lovely people and I've no problems with whatever people choose to do with themselves. However, there's a time and place for everything, and I don't think this forum is that place.

Apologies for the badly constructed post, I hope I get my point across!

Insect Overlord · 19-01-2010 01:52AM

bythewoods wrote: »

TBH, we should just ban all discussion in this forum that may be slightly inappropriate to anyone at all. All humour ought to be completely ruled out.

Like, honestly, I'd like it if we all just discussed our favourite soft drinks and icecream flavours all day. Would that be better for everyone?
I know I'd be happier.

Here's a few ideas for you.

If you want to post bizarre and insulting questions, ask someone to join you in The Thunderdome.
If you want to talk about getting locked with your college buddies, find a thread in one of the Trinity/DCU/etc fora.
If you want to talk about your favourite soft drinks and ice-cream, there's always the Sunshine, Lollipops & Rainbows forum.

If you want to continue posting on this forum, then abide by the charter.
Simples!

bythewoods · 19-01-2010 02:02AM

Well, if it's reasonable to arrange a meet-up for this board that was in a pub, then surely it's reasonable to have discussions about alcohol here also.

And honestly, I've seen very little discussion about smoking or drugs here at all. Possibly in passing, but definitely not in enough detail to get riled up over.

If we were to take out all discussion of anything slightly offensive and taboo, this would be a very bland and barren place to post imo. We'd still have people complaining about school and homnework and the likes, which is all well and good, but still rather tedious.
The popularity of this forum is largely related to the fun natre of it. Take that away, and you'll be left with a few teeny boppers discussing Jedward or Twilight or something equally crap.

Should we lock the sex discussion thread because people under the age of 17 might get pressured into having sex? That's illegal folks. No.
Should we censor everything we write here? Again, I say no.

I don't mind toning down my posts if people think they're a bit much, but I honestly think it's daft that the moderation in this forum's so ridiculously strict at times.

Aoibheann · 19-01-2010 02:04AM

Nobody has a problem with the "discussion" of alcohol as far as I can tell, it's the type of post that I mentioned in my previous post that's the issue here IMO. I don't see why some form of mature discussion on alcohol can't take place, but it's always about the manner in which it's discussed - lines have to be drawn somewhere in fairness.

Edit: Just saw your comment on the sex discussion thread, and it's pretty much (for the most part anyway) the way I see a "mature discussion" working. There's lighthearted banter, but people are still discussing it in a reasonable way, not "OMFG SO I WAS OUT SLEEPING WITH HALF THE COUNTRY LAST NIGHT!!11ELEVENTY".. Which proves it's about how something is discussed, not solely the topic.

phlegms · 19-01-2010 02:07AM

I agree, a little more consistency in the moderation would be nice.

Pygmalion · 19-01-2010 02:08AM

I hate to admit this, but I agree with Aoibheann

.

SHE IS NOT TROOOOOLLING!

Fad · 19-01-2010 02:16AM

phlegms wrote: »

I agree, a little more consistency in the moderation would be nice.

Consistent from the beginnings of the forum! Yes, red card for calling people asshats! thanks you squigloo

Seriously, the mods are still learning, let em at it, if a problem arises, deal with it then.

D4RK ONION · 19-01-2010 02:19AM

bythewoods wrote: »

Well, if it's reasonable to arrange a meet-up for this board that was in a pub, then surely it's reasonable to have discussions about alcohol here also.

There was two meet ups, one for everyone and those over 18. If the under 18s didn't show, I don't see how it's the fault of anyone if the under 18s simply didn't show and the over 18s went ahead as planned.

And honestly, I've seen very little discussion about smoking or drugs here at all. Possibly in passing, but definitely not in enough detail to get riled up over.

Alcohol is a drug. It is, I would imagine, one of the most overly abused drugs in this country. Just because everyone does it ans it's not taboo, doesn't mean it's not a behaviour altering substance. And as we've seen today it can be discussed in a completely immature manner. I find the odd drunk post as humorous as the next, but I don't sit down with my 13 year old sister and tell her how bladdered I was last night, and how cool it was and how much fun it is to do.

If we were to take out all discussion of anything slightly offensive and taboo, this would be a very bland and barren place to post imo. We'd still have people complaining about school and homnework and the likes, which is all well and good, but still rather tedious.
The popularity of this forum is largely related to the fun natre of it. Take that away, and you'll be left with a few teeny boppers discussing Jedward or Twilight or something equally crap.

What I think you meant here is "discussion of anything I find slightly offensive etc.". I am like you believe it or not, but I am also capable of moderating myself in such a way as to not ask people what they stick where in their anatomies in a made for fun Q and A session. Maybe you find that funny, but it's immature and unnecessary IMO.

Should we lock the sex discussion thread because people under the age of 17 might get pressured into having sex? That's illegal folks. No.
Should we censor everything we write here? Again, I say no.

This has been addressed by Aoibheann. I agree with her 100%

Insect Overlord · 19-01-2010 02:24AM

If anyone thinks an occasional bold-printed, generalised warning is ridiculously strict moderation, then they've got a lot to learn about posting on this site. There are several posts in this thread that I should have (at minimum) yellow-carded for being off-topic and trollish, but I've let those slide because I don't want to upset the general amosphere of the thread.

Reasonable discussion of sex, alcohol and homework are all very welcome on this forum. I think it's infinitely possible to do that and have fun. We've currently got two threads dedicated to "taboo" subjects (i.e. sex) and both are a great mix of tongue-in-cheek replies and genuine, honest discussion. It's been mentioned frequently that similar discussions on drinking are possible, but glorifying blind drunkeness is not acceptable.

Jay P · 19-01-2010 02:31AM

Insect Overlord wrote: »

If you want to talk about getting locked with your college buddies, find a thread in one of the Trinity/DCU/etc fora.
If you want to talk about your favourite soft drinks and ice-cream, there's always the Sunshine, Lollipops & Rainbows forum.

I understand where you're coming from with this, but this forum doesn't exactly have an "agenda", or general topics of disucssion. It's not R&R where you rant, bitch and moan til the cows come home, or Humour where you laugh and tell jokes and all that. This is a place for teenagers and young adults too come and talk about what they want to talk about, and also what concerns them. I pointed this out in one of my earlier posts here. And this is why I like this forum, there are lots of different things to talk about, and everyone here is, roughly, in the same age bracket.

There are sensitive eyes in this forum, so obviously discussing the merits of getting fúcked off your head wouldn't be the best idea. But a discussion on alcohol would be a good idea....

*light bulb flickers on*

Fad · 19-01-2010 02:31AM

Guys, chill.....seriously.

C&H is nice now, let's leave it at that.

KnifeWRENCH · 19-01-2010 04:48PM

Fad wrote: »

Guys, chill.....seriously.

C&H is nice now, let's leave it at that.

Thanks. Appreciate all the feedback guys, but if this thread is gonna be constructive, it can't get too heated or personal. This applies to users and Mods alike.
Now let's all forget our troubles with a big bowl of strawberry ice cream!

jumpguy · 19-01-2010 07:18PM

Hmm...I wonder if we can have humour...mixed with maturity...to make discussions that satisfy people of both views...as both sides have valid arguments...hmm.

Seriously I personally don't really have a problem with people talking about drink, or going on about how locked they were...I hear it everywhere. TBH, I don't really care aslong as it's not said in a way that encourages it. Although I can understand the argument that younger, more impressionable, pier pressured peoples visit this forum - I don't think that should be a great boundary on discussion here. Alcohol is a fact of life and society, people drink it, whether under 18 or over 18. People abuse it, under and over 18. People boast about how they abuse it, and glorify it, and make it seem to be the "cool" thing to do, whether over and under 18. This is the boundary which I think shouldn't be crossed. And in fairness, I haven't witnessed a lot in this forum.

Stuff in the 430 thread has never really been that bad in my memory either. Some of the stuff was crass, but tbh, I couldn't see it phasing anyone under 14, 15 at the most. I talk worse with my friends sometimes tbh...Admittedly it's what most teenagers do. It's nothing too offensive, tbh.

This forum has a difficult boundary which I think people are trying to find in this thread now. Are we catering more to children or young adults? It's not really something that's easy to compromise tbh, and since most of this forum's population is made up of people 18+ (and I'm not biased saying this, I'm 16 myself), discussion should be allowed to a certain point, so as to not compromise the easy-going nature of the forum.

Hope that made sense...

D4RK ONION · 26-01-2010 05:11PM

This is more thread feedback really, but could we have a rule that people can only post one video per post in "Soundtrack to your angst" and just in general? That way

a) there might be a bit more discussion on the song
b) someone will actually listen to it. I don't know about ye but when I see 5 songs back to back, I aint going to click any of those
c) some people may be on slow computers and 45 youtube flash videos on the one page is most likely making opening that thread a pain for people.

Just a suggestion for ye to think about.

Bobalicious93 · 26-01-2010 05:17PM

D4RK ONION wrote: »

This is more thread feedback really, but could we have a rule that people can only post one video per post in "Soundtrack to your angst" and just in general? That way

a) there might be a bit more discussion on the song
b) someone will actually listen to it. I don't know about ye but when I see 5 songs back to back, I aint going to click any of those
c) some people may be on slow computers and 45 youtube flash videos on the one page is most likely making opening that thread a pain for people.

Just a suggestion for ye to think about.

And could people maybe post music that I might have at least heard of?

Jay P · 26-01-2010 05:28PM

The thing about the videos is that they're more often than not related, usually by the same artists. I like it's current format, though I have a reliable-ish internet connection. And in fairness, only the minority would have a less than ok connection.

And Bob, no. That thread is pretty much just to exclude you. Sorry

:pac:

D4RK ONION · 26-01-2010 05:30PM

It's not slow connections, that's where Gifs and images get people, it's slow computers that a billion yt players cause a hastle to.

I understand that they follow a theme, but I couldn't be the only one who just thinks "Flip that" when I see something like Jako8's latest post (just the post, not givin' out about you luv :P

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