What is Dublin becoming...

ladybirdirl · 18-01-2010 06:56PM #1

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So at the weekend had this odd experience which makes me wonder what this town we call Dublin is coming to.

I was out for the evening,came in & was sitting at home in SoCoDub working on my laptop. I've had a few drinks & I'm thinking probably time to go to bed around 2am. Look out my front window & see this person leaning on my car.

Off out I trot(in my slippers,maybe not the best option) to tell this scumbag to get AWAY from my car.

When I got out, it turns out it was a 16 year old young fella who is bleeding, moaning & generally in a bad way.
What was I to do, I brought him into my house,called the guards & an ambo.

He was mortified poor chap, the guards were less than sympathetic & the ambo carted him off.

As far as I could gather he was at some party, he's walking home across the green in front of my house & he gets hopped on, literally minutes from home. Phone is gone,cash is gone, hoodie is gone(presume it was A&F;)) & he has a fat lip,a shiner, lots of cuts & scrapes & I heard later a cracked rib & concussion.

Is this what young guys can expect on a night out? At 16?

Maybe I'm just mad but I can't understand the point of hopping a young fella for a mobile & a few quid?
Is it sport or something to pick on young fellas?

Does this happen all the time? if it does I'm off back to Limerick:p;)

Kintarō Hattori · 18-01-2010 07:00PM

ladybirdirl wrote: »

Does this happen all the time? if it does I'm off back to Limerick:p;)

About as much as it does in Limerick I would imagine.

Bonito · 18-01-2010 07:01PM

ladybirdirl wrote: »

Mods not sure if this is the best place for this,feel free to move.

So at the weekend had this odd experience which makes me wonder what this town we call Dublin is coming to.

I was out for the evening,came in & was sitting at home in SoCoDub working on my laptop. I've had a few drinks & I'm thinking probably time to go to bed around 2am. Look out my front window & see this person leaning on my car.

Off out I trot(in my slippers,maybe not the best option) to tell this scumbag to get AWAY from my car.

When I got out, it turns out it was a 16 year old young fella who is bleeding, moaning & generally in a bad way.
What was I to do, I brought him into my house,called the guards & an ambo.

He was mortified poor chap, the guards were less than sympathetic & the ambo carted him off.

As far as I could gather he was at some party, he's walking home across the green in front of my house & he gets hopped on, literally minutes from home. Phone is gone,cash is gone, hoodie is gone(presume it was A&F;)) & he has a fat lip,a shiner, lots of cuts & scrapes & I heard later a cracked rib & concussion.

Is this what young guys can expect on a night out? At 16?

Maybe I'm just mad but I can't understand the point of hopping a young fella for a mobile & a few quid?
Is it sport or something to pick on young fellas?

Does this happen all the time? if it does I'm off back to Limerick:p;)

Unfortunately it happens Op. Fair play for bringin the chappy in though

GLaDOS · 18-01-2010 07:01PM

Whereabouts in Dublin was it? But yeah, sadly, this isn't particularly shocking in some parts

MaybeLogic · 18-01-2010 07:02PM

He's drunk ,he's 16 ,wandering around alone at 2am .
What does he expect?
Good Samaritan helps him;karmic balance is restored in the Universe.

major bill · 18-01-2010 07:02PM

a man from my area was beat to a inch of his life on saturday night, add this to the young lad stabbed in coolock and the shootings i honestly think dublin is gone to sh1te and something needs to be done.

new years eve i had trouble meself, me and my mate were attacked by 8 lads although we were able to fight them off leaving me with a fat lip. i wont walk anywhere alone in dublin not worth it too much scum on our streets and lads(cowards) only too willing to stab ye over nothing.

ps op limerick is just as bad sadly.

brummytom · 18-01-2010 07:03PM

Dublin is a major city. Unfortunately, things like that are commonplace everywhere now; even in smaller towns. I mean, me and my mates got jumped in the town I live in; quite a small place. I was 16, my mates were 15 and the lads (maybe 20 of them) were from 17-19ish.

It's society now, it's not just limited to Dublin.

If you haven't seen it in Limerick, you're just lucky - it does happen

KTRIC · 18-01-2010 07:03PM

MaybeLogic wrote: »

He's drunk ,he's 16 ,wandering around at 2am .
What does he expect?
Good Samaritan helps him,karmic balance is restored in the Universe.

So by your reasoning because he's drunk and on his way home he deserves to get the shoite kicked out of him and mugged ??

Well done, you've restored my faith in humanity. :rolleyes:

Dublin141 · 18-01-2010 07:04PM

ScienceNerd wrote: »

Whereabouts in Dublin was it? But yeah, sadly, this isn't particularly shocking in some parts

Out of curiosity, in what parts of Dublin would it be shocking?

Gyalist · 18-01-2010 07:05PM

My 14 year old son was mugged for his mobile at Cowper Road Luas station two Wednesdays ago at about 4:30 in the evening. So it happens even in the most unlikely parts of Dublin. Luckily he wasn't physically hurt but was badly shaken up.

MaybeLogic · 18-01-2010 07:05PM

KTRIC wrote: »

So by your reasoning because he's drunk and on his way home he deserves to get the shoite kicked out of him and mugged ??

Well done, you've restored my faith in humanity. :rolleyes:

Point out where I said he deserved it,please.
I said he can expect it.

major bill · 18-01-2010 07:06PM

KTRIC wrote: »

So by your reasoning because he's drunk and on his way home he deserves to get the shoite kicked out of him and mugged ??

Well done, you've restored my faith in humanity. :rolleyes:

i think what he meant was he should know dublin is not the sort of place ye walk around on your own at 2 in the morning and maybe should be copped on to this!!!

harsh way of putting it though.

Terry · 18-01-2010 07:06PM

ScienceNerd wrote: »

Whereabouts in Dublin was it? But yeah, sadly, this isn't particularly shocking in some parts

Didn't you read the post?
It was in SoCoDub.

Happens a bit here in NoCoKil too.

billy the squid · 18-01-2010 07:06PM

it happens everywhere. sometimes it can happen to feed someones heroin habit, other times you get youngfellas doing it for "the sneer."

GLaDOS · 18-01-2010 07:07PM

Dublin141 wrote: »

Out of curiosity, in what parts of Dublin would it be shocking?

True, I think I meant more that in some places it is almost expected

mikom · 18-01-2010 07:08PM

Dublin141 wrote: »

Out of curiosity, in what parts of Dublin would it be shocking?

The Dáil..................... They prefer to rob you by stealth.

BigBelly · 18-01-2010 07:10PM

What was a 16 year old doing out @ 2 in the morning?
I haven't heard of this becoming a frequent thing but it wouldn't surprise me. Maybe don't go charging out the door at someone leaning against your car though, it may not be the best move if this is happening in your area.

paddyland · 18-01-2010 07:10PM

Don't you understand?

The banks' profits are in crisis. The developers are losing their fortunes. The main government party in this country is in danger of losing seats at the next election. Our international reputation as a 220mph Ferrari (admittedly a green one driven by a punch drunk leprechaun) is spoilt.

There are far too many great and grand things for our FF overlords to worry about to concern themselves with the little lives of the ordinary people.

rednik · 18-01-2010 07:10PM

We need Elliot Ness here asap.

Kipperhell · 18-01-2010 07:11PM

major bill wrote: »

add this to the young lad stabbed in coolock and the shootings i honestly think dublin is gone to sh1te and something needs to be done.

After I read the story of the events it appears the "innocent" young lad was involved in a car chase with people he was having a disagreement with. Terrible sad anybody got killed over the noise at a party but it sounds like there was thuggery on both sides as it was described on RTE.

"The death of former soldier Mr O'Connor was linked to a row among neighbours in The Beech apartment building at the Grattan Wood complex in Donaghmede, north Dublin.

A friend of Mr O'Connor, who lived in the complex, became annoyed over loud parties in an upstairs apartment.

When the noise levels rose again shortly after midnight on Saturday he called to the apartment to complain but the party apparently continued.

The man then contacted Mr O'Connor and other friends as he felt concerned about his safety.

Meanwhile the party upstairs continued even though at one stage fuses were removed from the fusebox in the complex.

A row then broke out and spilled over into the complex car park and then onto the road.

Some of those who had been involved in the argument, including Mr O'Connor, left the scene in two cars, a black Honda Civic and a silver Ford Focus.

The cars collided a short distance away at Hole in the Wall Road in Donaghmede and Mr O'Connor was stabbed in the chest with the long-bladed kitchen knife."

As for some guy getting beaten up at 16 walking through a park it is nothing new or unique to Dublin/any suburban environment.

The shootings are new and are at least partially a result of peace in the North

humberklog · 18-01-2010 07:13PM

Young lad beaten up! Holy good god, what's this place becoming. Wasn't so bad when it was just the elderly getting a wallop...but not the kids!!

Thank god I live in Sandycove and nowhere near this SoCoDub. It sounds like a right ol' kip.

jumpguy · 18-01-2010 07:15PM

Boredom & loitering.

Drugs and Drink.

Poor education.

Just some of the reasons, the drugs and drink problem is only getting worse btw, not getting better. Knife crime is on the up. Ireland is a country that was totally unprepared for the bad factors of the economic boom. Society is changing....

For example, it's recently reported on the Luas, that public crime has increased by 100% in the past year. Incredible.

I live in a small town and even I notice it. As a teenager, going into town for a night and not getting verbally abused (thankfully it's never gone beyond that) by some random scumbag isn't uncommon. They're all over the place. Even the roads are covered with them lately (boy-racers are scumbags with wheels imo).

Society has revolutionised, but so has crime sadly.

Involuntary year in the army looks really good to me tbh.

Faithless · 18-01-2010 07:18PM

Sadly our authorities are far too busy eating snack boxes, checking seat belts, tax and insurance on cars and sitting in a squad car all day to block a street with a small non-tarred piece of road to make sure nobody goes down (God forbid) than use manpower to get the scum off our streets. I mean, why wasn't a road sign put up?? (Yes, I seen this actually happening)...furthermore, what a total waste of tax-payers money.

RMD · 18-01-2010 07:19PM

ladybirdirl wrote: »

Mods not sure if this is the best place for this,feel free to move.

So at the weekend had this odd experience which makes me wonder what this town we call Dublin is coming to.

I was out for the evening,came in & was sitting at home in SoCoDub working on my laptop. I've had a few drinks & I'm thinking probably time to go to bed around 2am. Look out my front window & see this person leaning on my car.

Off out I trot(in my slippers,maybe not the best option) to tell this scumbag to get AWAY from my car.

When I got out, it turns out it was a 16 year old young fella who is bleeding, moaning & generally in a bad way.
What was I to do, I brought him into my house,called the guards & an ambo.

He was mortified poor chap, the guards were less than sympathetic & the ambo carted him off.

As far as I could gather he was at some party, he's walking home across the green in front of my house & he gets hopped on, literally minutes from home. Phone is gone,cash is gone, hoodie is gone(presume it was A&F;)) & he has a fat lip,a shiner, lots of cuts & scrapes & I heard later a cracked rib & concussion.

Is this what young guys can expect on a night out? At 16?

Maybe I'm just mad but I can't understand the point of hopping a young fella for a mobile & a few quid?
Is it sport or something to pick on young fellas?

Does this happen all the time? if it does I'm off back to Limerick:p;)

Some scumbags saw a drunk person, more than likely weaker than them walking through I'm assuming to be a dark area and he was on his own. All of these factors equate to an easy target.

This is nothing new, it's been happening for the last 3 decades. Scumbags walking around looking for easy cash, they hop an easy target, mug him and kick the ****e out of him to make sure he's scared of them.

major bill · 18-01-2010 07:24PM

The gards are part of the problem aswell. i got beat up at 17 and insted of taking me to hospital i was put in the back off a squad car and told i was gonna get two years for robbing a car even though i didnt one of the gards even said i was the person they seen.
These new recruits are bullys and tar every teenage/young lad as a scumbag. if thats the attitude of the man in power then what else to they expect from citizens if people/society are constantly treated like animals then people become animals!!!!

Gummy Panda · 18-01-2010 07:24PM

Well i avoided being attacked last night.

I was walking up Jervis st beside Smyths and Maplins after 11pm, with two lads from work. We see a group of drunk youths with cans walking towards us so we cross over to the other side. One of them starts walking in the middle of the road to crossover to us but his friends keep walking.

We got to the Cineworld and turn around to see them attacking two lads. I rang the Garda straight away. The Garda were quick to get a car there and I hope the scumbags got caught.

Lucky for one of the lads from work, that he offered us a lift home or he would have been walking up that street on his own :eek:

humberklog · 18-01-2010 07:29PM

jumpguy wrote: »

Poor education.

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Oh come come. Education is far better now than ever was in the state. Far more third level, far more staying for a the Leaving and higher points in the Inter now than before.

PCPhoto · 18-01-2010 07:30PM

Kipperhell wrote: »

The shootings are new and are at least partially a result of peace in the North

please inform me on how the shootings in Dublin are as a result of having peace in the North ????

FFS - its all down to scumbags breeding scumbags .... stop criminals from reproducing and you will (in time) irradicate scumbagish behaviour like this*

meh ! .... as for the 16yr old .... I blame the parents !!! (well past his bedtime - even if it wasnt a schoolnight)

Seriously though - parents are not allowed to discipline their own kids so kids become spoiled and crave attention....like most spoiled kids.

Next time someone threatens you at knifepoint ...offer them a hug !

Herb Powell · 18-01-2010 07:32PM

Kipperhell wrote: »

After I read the story of the events it appears the "innocent" young lad was involved in a car chase with people he was having a disagreement with. Terrible sad anybody got killed over the noise at a party but it sounds like there was thuggery on both sides as it was described on RTE.

"The death of former soldier Mr O'Connor was linked to a row among neighbours in The Beech apartment building at the Grattan Wood complex in Donaghmede, north Dublin.

A friend of Mr O'Connor, who lived in the complex, became annoyed over loud parties in an upstairs apartment.

When the noise levels rose again shortly after midnight on Saturday he called to the apartment to complain but the party apparently continued.

The man then contacted Mr O'Connor and other friends as he felt concerned about his safety.

Meanwhile the party upstairs continued even though at one stage fuses were removed from the fusebox in the complex.

A row then broke out and spilled over into the complex car park and then onto the road.

Some of those who had been involved in the argument, including Mr O'Connor, left the scene in two cars, a black Honda Civic and a silver Ford Focus.

The cars collided a short distance away at Hole in the Wall Road in Donaghmede and Mr O'Connor was stabbed in the chest with the long-bladed kitchen knife."

As for some guy getting beaten up at 16 walking through a park it is nothing new or unique to Dublin/any suburban environment.

The shootings are new and are at least partially a result of peace in the North

15Pete · 18-01-2010 07:34PM

Sterilise repeat offenders of violent crime and rid us of their inhumane offspring within a couple of generations! S0crates genuinely believes he is a better person than someone who walks around wearing tracksuits, drinking cans in public and assaulting members of the public.
Crimes like that should carry mandatory 10 year sentences.

jumpguy · 18-01-2010 07:35PM

humberklog wrote:

Oh come come. Education is far better now than ever was in the state. Far more third level, far more staying for a the Leaving and higher points in the Inter now than before.

That's true, however it still depends alot on money in many areas, and there are far too many "socially disadvantaged" schools.

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