Camping vs. Running around

If I'm sniping (which is often), I usually try and hold down one general area (with claymores and running back in forth between each entrance behind cover, checking choke points where enemies usually funnel through) but If I don't see much enemy movement, I move on to another area. I do not consider this camping, merely playing strategically. If I am running around constantly I will get picked off almost straight away.

When using Assault Rifles/LMG's I am a bit more mobile and move between area's alot quicker and more frequently and when using SMG's I just leg it to the other side of the map to try and flank the other team from behind.

Just make a strategy to deal with them throw a few stun grenades into normal camping spots and kill them its not hard if they kill you you kill them simple really.Watch the killcam define there location and just get them god not that hard!

mle1324 wrote: »

Unlike Rb I wouldn't leave the game if I see more then one person on the other team camping or even if anybody on mine was.

I agree. Rb just can't seem to crack the incredibly complex methods behind camping in order to teach the campers a lesson like the rest of us so he runs off to find an easier game full of rushing maniacs who dislike taking their time to think about formulating a strategy to fit the situation.


Oh no, a camper! What will I do? I should leave in case he kills me with his fantastic skills!

RustyBeanTin wrote: »

what is a noobtube?

A Luser Attitude Readjustment Tool (LART). Basically a grenade launcher on the main weapon. It is very effective because it has a blast radius that can take out another player by just aiming in the general direction of that player. Used effectively, it causes the targets to whinge about the shooter being a noob because they are using the noobtube. The same kind of targets can also be seen in movie format in the movie 'Ronin', specifically the Sean Bean character asking the others about their favourite weapon. The noobtube is effective when used with skill and it doesn't take much skill to use it. In some FFA maps it is very useful against snipers and campers but not half as much fun as sticking a semtex grenade on a camper who thought he was invisible.

Regards...jmcc

I actually find that those ppl who constantly run around with an SMG piss me off alot more than campers (people who stay in the same spot through the whole game).

Most of those SMG guys, they run towards you blindly and you just pop them, but then they keep coming back again and again for revenge, and because they have marathon and lightweight they get you back a few seconds after you killed them the first time, they usually have less than 1.0 K/D's but they are just so annoying!

Soooo many people who play this game are little whiny girls. I thought most of them were yanks, but seems we've a few here as well. :rolleyes: Here's some of the complaints I've read in this thread and others.

ooohh I hate guys who sit in corners and kill me. (See where they are, and get them back)
ooohhh I hate guys who blow me up with a grenade launcher. (It's a legit weapon, so get over it)
OOoohhh I hate guys who run around quickly and stab me. (Get a weapon like shotgun that will take them out in one blast before they get to you)
OOhhhhhh I hate guys who use their heartbeat sensor to kill me. (Put on Ninja Pro!)
OOOoohhhh I hate guys who use shotguns from a "too far range", to blast me across the room. (Assault rifles have better range so take them out before they get close, or else don't be in close quarters with the wrong weapon equipped!!)
OOOooohhhh I hate guys who use SMG's to keep rushing me to try to kill me. (Another legit weapon, quit complaining)
OOOooohhhHH!! I hate it when I get killed from Air Killstreaks. They are so overpowered!! (Set up a class with a Stinger and take their Air Support down for 300-400XP a go!! It really annoys people which is even more fun!)

Seems we get a new "problem" with the game every week or so, as people bitch about getting killed in a new way. Why can't people just accept that you are going to die in 99% of games, and die more than once in 98% of them too. Instead of bitching and bleating about how unfair it is, adapt your game and get better!!

There are only two things that are genuinely annoying in this game currently.

1. Nuke boosters.
2. Care package glitchers.

That's it. Everyone else is just using different game styles to do the best they can. Those two problems though are people who are using an unintended backdoor in the game to get a leap over others. I'd go so far as to say cheating.
Nuke boosters, are certainly cheating, and I really hate them. But I've only come across it once when it was done blatantly. The other one or two times I've been nuked were probably legit.
I just came across my first CPG over the weekend, and he really annoyed me. It was on Scrapyard and the speed and distance he got the knife kill from was insane. However, I changed class (got out my shotgun) and nailed him a few times by game end. But he was at it again in Quarry afterwards, and it was just a bloody nuisance. I ended up leaving that lobby after the game. He didn't get top score, but just was so frustrating to play against. With the regular witch class, you have a decent chance to no-scope kill them, but the CPG guys are really tough to get.


There are lots of different ways to play this game. I've done most of the above "hate scenarios" at different times, and often during the same game. Whatever works in each gamemap or gamemode. For example, take Skidrow in TDM. I love this map. If I start in the A Spawn side, I'll normally run to the alley on the right and wait there "scoped-up" for someone to run up the steps at the far end. I normally get 1-2 kills that way. If I start in the C spawn side of the map, I normally go to the house on the right and scope down the tunnel to get guys running around that corner. Again it's normally a 1-2 kill move.
Then I usually run into the house above C. I put down a Claymore at both doors (which are good for a regular supply of kills usually), and I wander around that room to long-scope anyone running around across that courtyard or in the building opposite.
After this I find that because a lot of my team have been killed in the B Flag area (where so many people go), they have spawned over by me. A lot of them wait there and shoot across also. At this point the enemy are now spawning at A instead, so I swap from my ACR and go to my M1014 shotgun and have some fun Ninja-ing silently around the B corridor blasting the enemy who are often looking across at where I've come from because my team are still there.
I did this just last night and got a 10:1 k:d score with well over 30 kills (and a lot of them were weapon kills as you know AirSupport isn't great on that map). I'm sure some guys will say I "camped" in the starting move, and even possibly when using my ACR. BS! I have learned other peoples habits and, like chess, I'm giving myself a "thought out" advantage in the opening game moves. An assault rifle is a good mid to long distance gun. So using it in that way is simply being smart!

Similarly, when I'm starting on Favela at the Barbershop, I pick my "Witch" class and race across the football pitch and up the steps. I envariably get 1-2-3 kills from guys running from A spawn down the grassy path to get to the C spawn. Depending on how that game goes, I can either stick with the Witch class for the game, or when I die simply flick over to my regular class for the balance of the game.

I've other starting moves that I'll keep to myself for now. Simply put, I think my way around each game, observe the players I'm up against and change my style to suit. "Campers" have raised some ire among the posts so far. Sure, someone who sits in a corner all day might get you once or even twice, but stop re-spawning so quickly after every kill and take a second to see who killed you via the kill cam. Figure out how they are playing, what weapons and perks they have and how you can get the better of them.

Then plot your revenge! It really is sweet.

A guy was sitting in one of the rail carriages in Derail yesterday with his SCAR and heartbeat monitor and picking off people in the C spawn side of the map. He got me once. I saw where he was, made sure I picked my Silencer/Ninja class before respawning, and wandered around the edge of the map to flank him. I picked him off and got some nice Revenge XP in the process. Plus, because so many of our team were defending the central building above the B flag area, there were a few more of the enemy focussing on it. So since I hadn't appeared with a red dot due to Silencer, I got to pick them off without anyone knowing I was there.


(I will say here and now, that I used to get very frustrated when I played in Wasteland as you'd get games with 2-3 Snipers with Thermal equipped. In some games it was practically impossible to move around the map without getting picked off. However, I've since set up a class with ColdBlooded in it to try to combat this. Again, I've thought about it, adapted my style and am trying to get the better of them. It's not easy because that map is so open, but I'm not bellyaching about it ingame or on here. )

Tallon wrote: »

/your own logic!

True and a fair point. But in my defence...

On the CPG guy, I did get him with a shotgun (as I mentioned in my post). It was a pain though because I ended up playing Quarry with a shotgun to defend against him and that map doesn't lend itself to shotgun as primary weapon in most instances. I just did the best I could and then moved on from his lobby as he was obviously doing it on every map.

I didn't notice the nuke boosters until it was nearly too late. It was in TDM on Quarry and they based themselves in the back of the map on the A side. I hadn't gotten killed by them earlier so didn't see them through KillCam. It was only when I pressed the summary screen in-game to see my own score, that I saw one guy with 23-0 and another with 0-23. So I figured out what was happening and went after them. Unfortunately they got me with a sniper rifle, which meant that I saw their base through kill cam. But it was too late to get from my spawn to noobtube the both of them to stop it.

While I accept that if you are really observant, it is possible to catch these Nuke Booster guys. But I'd also argue that it's hard enough trying not to get killed in game, without being a "self-appointed" policeman and trying to catch them around the maps.

I maintain my point that it's a "problem" with the game.