Camping vs. Running around

RustyBeanTin

due to my lack of experience playin the game i find i do better by lying low in some bushes, behind an object or whatever and just shooting the people that run around but every now and again i get a message sent to me callin me a camper fag or somethin like that or i get insulted by someone wearing a headset.
when i try to run around i get killed most times when i run into someone.
What is your way of playin the game?

Soby

Well when ur running around dont sprint as you cant use your weapons...or just sprint over short distances..if you sprint everywhere you'll be killed easily

Rb

Camping is pathetic. I generally leave a game if I find more than one camper on the opposite team, and will leave immediately if I see my own team members doing it. I'll also insta-quit a game if I find more than two snipers on either team, or a bunch of my own team hiding in the same spot.

Shite tactics at best. Campers/ "snipers" contribute s.f.a to the team in 99/100 cases and are extremely boring to play against. There are some very, very good snipers in COD but I'd say it's close to 0.01% of those who you find sniping, the rest are absolutely awful.

If you camp then you deserve whatever happens you imo.

Personally I like running around a good bit, sneaking up on fags hiding at the windows in highrise and the like, stop at spots to pick off a few and move on. Don't like being stationary too much, if I wanted to sit in bushes and watch time pass me by I could go outside the house and do it for free, rather than burning €50 for it.

Lab_Mouse

use the cover.And just do short sprints.take your time and always look before you run!

Lab_Mouse

Also play the game anyway you want.As for camping its is frowned upon as its a cheap way of getting a kill.Others say its a game technique so it shouldnt matter

Rb

Also I think it's safe to say those who camp have tiny, miniscule little penises.

Because what real man sits behind doors waiting for people to pass to get a cheap kill?

Lab_Mouse

Rb wrote: »

Also I think it's safe to say those who camp have tiny, miniscule little penises.

Because what real man sits behind doors waiting for people to pass to get a cheap kill?

:eek:well i hadnt put that much thought into it myself:D

Hoki

If your new to the game camping is acceptable, however when u see guys doing it constantly it shows how limited their abilities are.

The game is so much better when u uproot yourself from the bush you are hiding in. Use your radar all the time - i cant stress this enough , it tells you where your enemies are basically. If you want to be good at the game you have to be able to hunt down your enemies rather than wait for them .

If you find yourself being killed a lot when you run about use a weapon with a silencer as these dont give away your position. You might also want to use Cold Blooded as well if this doesnt help.

I find a silencer with stopping power & a heartbeat sensor the best combo. It allows me to roam about the map picking off the enemy quite easily. Be wary of when the opposing team has a Uav though as you will still show up on the map.

If you want to keep a good kill death ratio stick to the camping but your not getting the best possible enjoyment from the game or testing yourself .
Practice running about and after a good few hours of practice you'll be getting more kills than you ever did while lying underneath that bush

Varik

play ctf, it's fine then.

marko91

im not a camper but EVERYONE camps even a tiny bit...i keep moving and try be as undetectable as i can like.

sniping - i am in 1 spot more than when not sniping, well like isnt that the aim of sniping?...its still not camping though cos i allways move and lately i do sprint round with my intervention quickish scoping anyone i see:P

and from above posts...i hunt my enemys down:)..i any non campers wants to add me then add MarkLogan91

Rb

My last two games of 6-a-side TDM I got

39 kills vs 3 deaths
42 kills vs 4 deaths

I'd like to see a camper pull that out of the bag.

Rb

Rb wrote: »

My last two games of 6-a-side TDM I got

39 kills vs 3 deaths
42 kills vs 4 deaths

I'd like to see a camper pull that out of the bag.

Oh whoops it was 42-3

docdolittle

Em... for the people saying snipers do nothing for a team and just camp... You're wrong I've sniped with my intervention on a few maps, didn't need to camp, had my thermal on, killed 5 people, then usually get my missile, harrier, AC130 combo and get 30+ kills... how is that nothing towards a team...?

Oh and god it's easy pickings out there right now with all the new people, only a few matches out of about 20 I didn't get my AC130 and that was trying out the P90 for the first time too, one or two matches with my scar-h too.

Rb

docdolittle wrote: »

Em... for the people saying snipers do nothing for a team and just camp... You're wrong I've sniped with my intervention on a few maps, didn't need to camp, had my thermal on, killed 5 people, then usually get my missile, harrier, AC130 combo and get 30+ kills... how is that nothing towards a team...?

Oh and god it's easy pickings out there right now with all the new people, only a few matches out of about 20 I didn't get my AC130 and that was trying out the P90 for the first time too, one or two matches with my scar-h too.

Sure you do

docdolittle

Rb wrote: »

Sure you do

Yes, I do, that is why I said it. :pac:

Rb

Ohhh yeaahh

jonski

If you paid money for the game , play it what ever way you like .

If someone calls you a camper it because you are getting to them , don't worry about it , they didn't pay anymore money than you .

Having said that , camping for the sake of easy kills will be frowned upon by almost everyone .. still you paid for it so who am I to tell you to run about .
Camping to defend the flag or defend the bomb spot is all part of team play , if they whinge at you , so what . We play at night , maybe four of us together and at the start of each map do a quick " I'll go capture you defend " . You get loads running around getting loads of kills and their team don't win , you think these guys care if you ask them to be a team player ? their answer is " look at me , look at me , I'm getting loads of kills " ............so what , they paid for it as well .

Rb

jonski wrote: »

If you paid money for the game , play it what ever way you like .

If someone calls you a camper it because you are getting to them , don't worry about it , they didn't pay anymore money than you .

Having said that , camping for the sake of easy kills will be frowned upon by almost everyone .. still you paid for it so who am I to tell you to run about .
Camping to defend the flag or defend the bomb spot is all part of team play , if they whinge at you , so what . We play at night , maybe four of us together and at the start of each map do a quick " I'll go capture you defend " . You get loads running around getting loads of kills and their team don't win , you think these guys care if you ask them to be a team player ? their answer is " look at me , look at me , I'm getting loads of kills " ............so what , they paid for it as well .

Camping is only really a problem in the TDM/mTDM/hardcore TDM formats and I think most camper-fag haters are referring to these games when they speak of them. Defending spots in domination, defending the bomb etc is all part of the strategy in other games, hiding in a bush until someone runs by and then shooting them in TDM is just pathetic.

New players are fine to camp I guess but you'll learn more running about and getting to know the weapons and their capabilities than sitting there with your favourite gun waiting for people to pass by.

If there was an option to vote to kick players I'd bet there'd be somewhat of a decline in camping anyway, rise in headsets + "teamplay" would lead to campers getting the boot an awful lot quicker than in previous PC-based games.

radio_protector

Running around is a lot more fun and for me, more successful! Even with a sniper rifle, i tend to be running around a fair bit and stopping for a kill or a bottleneck. It's much more fun for me

@Rb-Nice game man, your team really sucked:P

Stuxnet

kill the campers, and all their relations

craze7

Run and gun is great if your against a **** team!

But that lad who posted that pic was probably the host and or got most of his kill with a kill streak reward!

I play defencifly because most of the time i'm on a 2 bar connection and will lose 7/10 gun fights 1 on 1.

P.s my best match was 38/0 tdm ☺☺

RustyBeanTin

my favorite game is search and destroy and even last nite someone had a pop at me cos i shot them when they tried to defuse the bomb, maybe they want me to run to the oppisite side of the map ffs
i tried a bit harder to play the game hunting people down and i did pretty good last nite, well i am at level 50 now so i suppose i can leave the bushes for a while

Tommy_NDX

Why cant people stop b1tching about others just because they dont play the game exactly how you want them to. I normally run around a lot when playing but i'll also use cover or 'camp' when sniping. Even the other day i was abused for using marathon and lightweight because i was running too fast and accused of glitching.

Play the game however you want because thats what it is, its just a game. I genuinely feel sorry for people who are sad enough to get so worked up over a game. They really need to take a good look at themselves and just get a fukin grip.

koHd

I always find it funny people try calling this game a war fighting simulator, then give out **** about camping. That s how real gun battles play out. Imagine seeing 50 headless chickens running around in a real battle looking for the enemie in a war hot spot heh. But play the game whatever way you want. Personally I think people that don't like campers should play Halo. That's a game aimed at frantic running around and shooting on sight.

Tallon

Seriously though, camping is a big no-no

You cant say you do it because your new to the game and you keep getting killed, you'll learn to not get killed, sitting in the same spot and pissing people off for 10 mins is retarded.

The only time I camp, when i see someone running towards me on the radar, duck behind a bin, let him run by, kill him and run away.... dude comes back for revenge, and your not in the same spot :O then he's really pissed

The camping thing that pisses me off is when they respawn and keep KEEP going back to the same spot that they know, over and over...... like the guys who hide in the L-shaped plane in Scrapyard... grrrr

/morning rant

RustyBeanTin

Tommy_NDX wrote: »

Why cant people stop b1tching about others just because they dont play the game exactly how you want them to. I normally run around a lot when playing but i'll also use cover or 'camp' when sniping. Even the other day i was abused for using marathon and lightweight because i was running too fast and accused of glitching.

Play the game however you want because thats what it is, its just a game. I genuinely feel sorry for people who are sad enough to get so worked up over a game. They really need to take a good look at themselves and just get a fukin grip.

well said, take note Rb...

RustyBeanTin

yeah this is supposed to stimulate real war and i for one would not be running around a battle field like an ejit

saltie

Tommy_NDX wrote: »

Why cant people stop b1tching about others just because they dont play the game exactly how you want them to. I normally run around a lot when playing but i'll also use cover or 'camp' when sniping. Even the other day i was abused for using marathon and lightweight because i was running too fast and accused of glitching.

Play the game however you want because thats what it is, its just a game. I genuinely feel sorry for people who are sad enough to get so worked up over a game. They really need to take a good look at themselves and just get a fukin grip.

here here. Would love to know the age group of the main bitchers

shanec1928

they need to get over them self playing s&d in derail defending at b to the edge of the map this lad can be seen clear as day i lie down let him come closer and kill him.and then get messaged calling me camping c*** and a noob,play the game,some people will never be happy.

Rb

RustyBeanTin wrote: »

well said, take note Rb...

Yikes, such desperation, not unexpected of someone proud to call themselves a camper though.

Also, people can play how they like, they're just fags if by "playing" they mean hiding in a dark corner waiting for people to pass by. Free to do it, but hated for doing it, and rightfully so.

mle1324

I find sometimes that campers who kill me dont last as campers much longer :pac:.
When one kills you or in my case me I'll just see where they are in the kill cam (thats if I'm familiar with the map) and then just use my common sense to find them and kill them.
The only time in which I would camp is when I am a sniper and after a kill or two i'ed move to another place but even at that most of the time I'ed use my secondary weapon the M1040 other wise known as the M4 Super 90 when up close.
Unlike Rb I wouldn't leave the game if I see more then one person on the other team camping or even if anybody on mine was.
Thats just letting it get to you imo.

Useful.Idiot

If I'm sniping (which is often), I usually try and hold down one general area (with claymores and running back in forth between each entrance behind cover, checking choke points where enemies usually funnel through) but If I don't see much enemy movement, I move on to another area. I do not consider this camping, merely playing strategically. If I am running around constantly I will get picked off almost straight away.

When using Assault Rifles/LMG's I am a bit more mobile and move between area's alot quicker and more frequently and when using SMG's I just leg it to the other side of the map to try and flank the other team from behind.

-Trek-

Varik wrote: »

play ctf, it's fine then.

No its not!

Totally

Just make a strategy to deal with them throw a few stun grenades into normal camping spots and kill them its not hard if they kill you you kill them simple really.Watch the killcam define there location and just get them god not that hard!

Batmantastic

Personally, I don't like campers because they always go for cheap kills, if you're new to the game then it's more acceptable. I played a game on Rundown, brought my 50cal thermal scope and was taken out twice in a row by a chap camping in the house with the broken walls, so I took him out after paying attention to the killcam, then a few seconds later I took out the same guy in the same house. It's irritating being killed by em but I hate it more when there's a camper on my team, because while they may get a few cheap kills, they'll die a lot more too. Personally, I find running between cover works so well that I can't imagine camping. Sure we've all camped a bit but there's no point in getting so worked up about it that you send an abusive message to the person doing so. A simple review avoiding them for Unsporting Conduct is much easier. After all, it is just a game!

Rb

Batmantastic wrote: »

Personally, I don't like campers because they always go for cheap kills, if you're new to the game then it's more acceptable. I played a game on Rundown, brought my 50cal thermal scope and was taken out twice in a row by a chap camping in the house with the broken walls, so I took him out after paying attention to the killcam, then a few seconds later I took out the same guy in the same house. It's irritating being killed by em but I hate it more when there's a camper on my team, because while they may get a few cheap kills, they'll die a lot more too. Personally, I find running between cover works so well that I can't imagine camping. Sure we've all camped a bit but there's no point in getting so worked up about it that you send an abusive message to the person doing so. A simple review avoiding them for Unsporting Conduct is much easier. After all, it is just a game!

Snipers can't *really* complain about camping.

Valmont

If someone plants themselves in one spot for an entire round for the sole purpose of shooting passers-by then yes, that is camping and is often frowned upon. However, as Rb demonstrates perfectly, there is a ridiculous notion that unless you are running around with a p90 in ninja mode, staying still for 10 seconds behind a door waiting for someone to run through is an unspeakable crime against the ninja rushing lords of p90 'never-ever-ever-stop-moving' land.

Face up to it, sometimes the round or situation demands that you find a strategic spot where you have reason to believe that enemies will rush and or pass through this spot with predictable frequency. If some p90 rush ninja elitist consistently rushes the exact same route or two, I have no qualms with sitting down opposite a door and waiting until he comes through to either knife or deagle him. This is reasonable given the situation and actually involves using brainpower as opposed to running around wildly in name of "anti-camping".

Face it, camping is an integral part of Search and Destroy. It is by no means the only part and I dislike when people camp 100% of the time. Although my motto is

"If you can't even rise above and kill some noob campers and instead leave like a pussy, you are worse than these campers in the first place"

It's a long motto and doesn't roll of the tongue very lightly but I absolutely despise this irrational hatred of players who like to hold a spot for strategic reasons. All this coming from someone who is proud of a TDM score:rolleyes:
Well done, your mom must be proud.

Valmont

mle1324 wrote: »

Unlike Rb I wouldn't leave the game if I see more then one person on the other team camping or even if anybody on mine was.

I agree. Rb just can't seem to crack the incredibly complex methods behind camping in order to teach the campers a lesson like the rest of us so he runs off to find an easier game full of rushing maniacs who dislike taking their time to think about formulating a strategy to fit the situation.


Oh no, a camper! What will I do? I should leave in case he kills me with his fantastic skills!

Batmantastic

Rb wrote: »

Snipers can't *really* complain about camping.

They can when they don't sit in one place for the entire round. There's a big difference between camping and getting one kill with a sniper and moving to a different location. Camping is taking a short to medium range weapon and sitting in one spot for minutes on end. But I'm not really complaining about campers either because once you've seen the killcam, it's easy to figure out how to get them. All I said was I don't like campers, and it's irritating, but I'm not gonna leave a game because of it.

Valmont wrote: »

"If you can't even rise above and kill some noob campers and instead leave like a pussy, you are worse than these campers in the first place"

Amen pal

Liam O

Batmantastic wrote: »

They can when they don't sit in one place for the entire round. There's a big difference between camping and getting one kill with a sniper and moving to a different location. Camping is taking a short to medium range weapon and sitting in one spot for minutes on end. But I'm not really complaining about campers either because once you've seen the killcam, it's easy to figure out how to get them. All I said was I don't like campers, and it's irritating, but I'm not gonna leave a game because of it.



Amen pal

doesn't work, it's very easy to be killed running around with a sniper. I've got decent quickscopes/no scopes but if you come up against a SCAR or M16/FAMAS (much more annoying than campers).

My strategy really depends on the map. I always cheaply camp the back of the plane in Terminal, don't know why but everytime I play that map I have to do it. A lot of other maps such as Favela/Karachi I'll run around to locations, put claymores down, get a couple of kills and try to move on before it becomes packed with revenge hunters.

Me and my friends did this thing the other day when we said we were going to be the biggest whores in the world and all put on noobtubes/thumpers and played search as a joke to piss people off, only to find that the other team were already doing it for serious, think they were the best players ever, I mean it boggles the mind...

RustyBeanTin

Liam O wrote: »

we were going to be the biggest whores in the world and all put on noobtubes/thumpers ...

what is a noobtube?

jmcc

RustyBeanTin wrote: »

what is a noobtube?

A Luser Attitude Readjustment Tool (LART). Basically a grenade launcher on the main weapon. It is very effective because it has a blast radius that can take out another player by just aiming in the general direction of that player. Used effectively, it causes the targets to whinge about the shooter being a noob because they are using the noobtube. The same kind of targets can also be seen in movie format in the movie 'Ronin', specifically the Sean Bean character asking the others about their favourite weapon. The noobtube is effective when used with skill and it doesn't take much skill to use it. In some FFA maps it is very useful against snipers and campers but not half as much fun as sticking a semtex grenade on a camper who thought he was invisible.

Regards...jmcc

hightower1

Liam O wrote: »

doesn't work, it's very easy to be killed running around with a sniper. I've got decent quickscopes/no scopes but if you come up against a SCAR or M16/FAMAS (much more annoying than campers).

Cant be any more annoying than those dopes using ACR bushmasters, stupid laser pointer gun with no recoil at all and although the damage they SAY it does is very little that doesnt seem to relate to what it ACTUALLY does. Very very irritating.

Leucifer

I do neither. Usually just move around slowly, checking corners, aiming down the sight often.

Praetor

Leucifer wrote: »

I do neither. Usually just move around slowly, checking corners, aiming down the sight often.

I have to say that I dont like camping. MW2 was my first time ever playing multiplayer, it was very confusing at first and I remember that all I use to do is walk around crouched, waiting for people to show up, then, someone will run by and shoot me without me even noticing.

I understand that arrived to this point the easiest solution is to find a hiding spot and kill everyone who passes by, and I tried, but after a few seconds I just can't take it (it did help me to gaing some confidence at first though).

I say It depends on what mood I am but I normally play to ways, one RB way, running around like a mad man (even when sniping), normally wont get too many kills though and if I do I normally get killed as much as I kill (30-14 or 20-18)

The other way is to be a bit more defensive. Go to a place, move around, kill a few people and move to the next zone/building. Even when sniping I dont like to stay in one place for more than 20-30 seconds.

It puts me off when I get killed by someone standing on a corner with a heartbeat sensor waiting for you to show up just and kill you. Arrived to this point my common sense tells me to ignore him and mind your business someplace else (my heart tells me to come back and blast him but coming back for revenge will likely only increase his killstreak, and even if you kill him as soon as you leave he likely will be back to the same spot)

Recently, when playing FFA I have noticed that what most people is camping, that's all they do! When this happens I normally leave the game. I dont mind if they want to play like this but is just not the type of game I like, so I leave and look for another match.

This actually happens to me once, I was playing with a bunch of people, they were literally ALL CAMPING!!! I was the only one running around (and being killed). So I decided to wait in a corner and for 5 minutes nobody got a single kill!!!!

So put it this way, if we were all camper, the game will def suck.... can't deny this!

RustyBeanTin

Praetor wrote: »

I have to say that I dont like camping. MW2 was my first time ever playing multiplayer, it was very confusing at first and I remember that all I use to do is walk around crouched, waiting for people to show up, then, someone will run by and shoot me without me even noticing.

I understand that arrived to this point the easiest solution is to find a hiding spot and kill everyone who passes by, and I tried, but after a few seconds I just can't take it (it did help me to gaing some confidence at first though).

I say It depends on what mood I am but I normally play to ways, one RB way, running around like a mad man (even when sniping), normally wont get too many kills though and if I do I normally get killed as much as I kill (30-14 or 20-18)

The other way is to be a bit more defensive. Go to a place, move around, kill a few people and move to the next zone/building. Even when sniping I dont like to stay in one place for more than 20-30 seconds.

It puts me off when I get killed by someone standing on a corner with a heartbeat sensor waiting for you to show up just and kill you. Arrived to this point my common sense tells me to ignore him and mind your business someplace else (my heart tells me to come back and blast him but coming back for revenge will likely only increase his killstreak, and even if you kill him as soon as you leave he likely will be back to the same spot)

Recently, when playing FFA I have noticed that what most people is camping, that's all they do! When this happens I normally leave the game. I dont mind if they want to play like this but is just not the type of game I like, so I leave and look for another match.

This actually happens to me once, I was playing with a bunch of people, they were literally ALL CAMPING!!! I was the only one running around (and being killed). So I decided to wait in a corner and for 5 minutes nobody got a single kill!!!!

So put it this way, if we were all camper, the game will def suck.... can't deny this!

ser4iously enough, if you want a publishing deal you're probably better looking elsewhere...

Praetor

RustyBeanTin wrote: »

ser4iously enough, if you want a publishing deal you're probably better looking elsewhere...

No thanks, I am fine

marko91

jmcc wrote: »

A Luser Attitude Readjustment Tool (LART). Basically a grenade launcher on the main weapon. It is very effective because it has a blast radius that can take out another player by just aiming in the general direction of that player. Used effectively, it causes the targets to whinge about the shooter being a noob because they are using the noobtube. The same kind of targets can also be seen in movie format in the movie 'Ronin', specifically the Sean Bean character asking the others about their favourite weapon. The noobtube is effective when used with skill and it doesn't take much skill to use it. In some FFA maps it is very useful against snipers and campers but not half as much fun as sticking a semtex grenade on a camper who thought he was invisible.

Regards...jmcc

or even better..taing out your sniper, scoping in on his hea and getting a free headshot on the bastard:D

Instant Karma

OP, don't listen to these guys, you camp as much as you want to. I've been camping in FPS games for years and still enjoy it. Get big scores all the time camping, especially when you get your kill streak rewards right on top of each other. sure it doesn't go great all the time but such is life.

I also enjoy the point in a game when you have killed the same guys over and over and they start raging at you with all manner of expletives. Makes it all worthwhile

TheHairyFairy

You need this tbh...

Scoti

marko91 wrote: »

or even better..taing out your sniper, scoping in on his hea and getting a free headshot on the bastard:D

There you go... this video should help clear your doubts!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=machinima#p/c/u/9/OuRu_4qptDs