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Military Coup in Ireland

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  • #32
    SeaFields
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,551 ✭✭✭SeaFields


    We'd want to be careful of this fella...


    "In the back of the head lads...just shoot them!"

    http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/uncyclopedia/images/8/88/Enda_Kenny_Shooting.jpg


  • #33
    BigDuffman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,512 ✭✭✭BigDuffman


    Ha ha military coup...can you imagine the state of the transport system then!? MOWAG corridors.

    And there would be no bus time-tables as the majority of the time would be spent getting on the bus then off the bus, taking the backpacks out of the bus and getting in trouble for not being on the bus. Then getting back on ;)


  • #34
    Morlar
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,273 ✭✭✭Morlar


    BigDuffman wrote: »
    Ha ha military coup...can you imagine the state of the transport system then!? MOWAG corridors.

    And there would be no bus time-tables as the majority of the time would be spent getting on the bus then off the bus, taking the backpacks out of the bus and getting in trouble for not being on the bus. Then getting back on ;)

    Who cares so long as cowen and gormleys heads are on pikes outside leinster house ? Dont sweat the little stuff - plenty of time for that later. 'Enda's tigers' can be in charge of the civil war to follow also any ethnic cleansing issues that might crop up.


  • #35
    Niall Keane
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,154 ✭✭✭Niall Keane


    can you imagine the state of the transport system then!? ....................Then getting back on

    as opposed to getting you there on a bus so you can work all day then leaving you to find your own way back in darkness on ice at -7C?


  • #36
    SeaFields
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,551 ✭✭✭SeaFields


    Niall Keane wrote: »
    as opposed to getting you there on a bus so you can work all day then leaving you to find your own way back in darkness on ice at -7C?

    BigDuffMan can be minister for transport.


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  • #37
    Niall Keane
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,154 ✭✭✭Niall Keane


    I for one welcome our new military overlord and wish that they remember this post in a fewmonths time.

    Dartz, have you not signed up to the facebook page yet??? :eek:

    bop, bop, bop ...... first against the wall!


  • #38
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    KerranJast wrote: »
    A General Election. Quit whining. We live in a Democracy.


    We do not live in a Democracy. The main point of democracy is that everyone is equal in the eyes of the law, "one person, one vote". We don't use this in Ireland.

    If there are 2 candidates in an area of 10,000 people, and candidate A gets 2000 votes, and candidate B gets 2500 votes, but none of the above gets 5500 votes then Candidate B gets the job, even though the people have stated that they don't want either person to represent them.


  • #39
    mikom
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    Niall Keane wrote: »
    Can anything other than strong central command save us now???

    Captain Planet................. sure he sorted out the north.


  • #40
    SeaFields
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,551 ✭✭✭SeaFields


    mikom wrote: »
    Captain Planet................. sure he sorted out the north.

    I thought Captain Planet was Gormley's dress up act for the green convention every year.

    I for one nominate Gerry to take the north. :cool:


  • #41
    Morlar
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,273 ✭✭✭Morlar


    According to breaking news.ie France just surrendered.


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  • #42
    mikom
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    SeaFields wrote: »
    I thought Captain Planet was Gormley's dress up act for the green convention every year.
    .

    You are getting Captain Planet confused with Mr. burns or Nosferatu......


  • #43
    SeaFields
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,551 ✭✭✭SeaFields


    Morlar wrote: »
    According to breaking news.ie France just surrendered.

    Erra nothing new there.


  • #44
    KerranJast
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,828 ✭✭✭KerranJast


    weldoninhio wrote: »
    We do not live in a Democracy. The main point of democracy is that everyone is equal in the eyes of the law, "one person, one vote". We don't use this in Ireland.

    If there are 2 candidates in an area of 10,000 people, and candidate A gets 2000 votes, and candidate B gets 2500 votes, but none of the above gets 5500 votes then Candidate B gets the job, even though the people have stated that they don't want either person to represent them.
    I think you'll find we do
    Democracy is a political government either carried out directly by the people (direct democracy) or by means of elected representatives of the people (Representative democracy).

    Ireland is a constitutional democratic Republic and parliamentary Democracy. In your scenario above candidate B got the most votes so is elected. It's not rocket science. The sovereign people of Ireland voted to use Proportional Representation as their means of electing representatives to the Dail. Deal with it.


  • #45
    seamus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Yes, it's the government's fault that it got really cold so the water pipes burst and demand for grit shot up across the eurozone :rolleyes:

    A military coup would be quite easy in this country and could very easily be bloodless. Military coups very rarely involve a separate army or a private army. Usually what you do is that you get one or more army generals onside with you, generals who have the loyalty of their subordinates.
    Ideally you would get the head of the police force with you too. The promise of a good position with lots of hookers/cash works well in such cases.

    Now, although the taoiseach is in charge you are in fact in control due to your allegiences, so you invent some obscure trumped-up charge on which to arrest the taoiseach (and his cabinet if you wish), and place them under house arrest. Then you install yourself as the interim taoiseach, declare a state of emergency and suspend the Dáil. You use the Army to defend your home and the houses of the oireachtas. Very few other people have weapons, so you're unlikely to have any serious kind of uprising.

    Now, in order for this to remain bloodless, you can't be a dictator. Populations don't like dictators. So you hold a general election. If you have enough allegiances, you can rig the general election so that your party is in charge. Otherwise you can hope that your opponent's popularity is low enough that the population will ignore your raping of the democratic process.

    If you wish to install yourself as dictator after your successful (rigged) election, you have your party vote on a motion to declare a state of emergency which gives you complete control. With complete control, you "temporarily" suspend the constitution and invent a fictional war against anti-Irish insurgents and resident foreigners, in order to keep the population scared and distracted. You can use this phoney war to provide employment and make it appear like your policies are generating jobs and rescuing the economy. In order to ensure there are always fresh traitors to arrest, you continually tighten up your laws into more and more restrictive and ridiculous areas until it's a crime to do almost anything.


  • #46
    stovelid
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    No danger of a coup. Half the soldiers spend all their time on boards. :D



    /please don't hurt me Makikomi


  • #47
    Morlar
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,273 ✭✭✭Morlar


    seamus wrote: »
    Now, in order for this to remain bloodless,

    No one said that - we want blood !!
    seamus wrote: »
    you can't be a dictator.

    Let us not be too hasty here comrades.
    seamus wrote: »
    Populations don't like dictators.

    History says otherwise, in Ireland we can't be sure till we try it.
    stovelid wrote: »
    No danger of a coup. Half the army is on boards all the time. :D



    /please don't hurt me Makikomi

    That's exactly why this will work ! Command and control 24x7 :)


  • #48
    SeaFields
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,551 ✭✭✭SeaFields


    You seem to have given an awful lot of thought to this Seamus....

    Enda...is that you?


  • #49
    whodoo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 114 ✭✭whodoo


    this is weird. i was just thinking yesterday - imagine if there was a coup or somebody seize power/marched on the dail etc....

    might distract us all from the so called recession.


  • #50
    Seren_
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,810 ✭✭✭Seren_


    Hello, my name is Augusto Pinochet. Where does I apply for job??


    :pac:


  • #51
    oppenheimer1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,733 ✭✭✭oppenheimer1


    weldoninhio wrote: »
    We do not live in a Democracy. The main point of democracy is that everyone is equal in the eyes of the law, "one person, one vote". We don't use this in Ireland.

    If there are 2 candidates in an area of 10,000 people, and candidate A gets 2000 votes, and candidate B gets 2500 votes, but none of the above gets 5500 votes then Candidate B gets the job, even though the people have stated that they don't want either person to represent them.

    Wrong, wrong wrong! In a two horse race the PR voting system is a straight runoff. If people aren't arsed to vote thats their problem, not the systems


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  • #52
    Niall Keane
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,154 ✭✭✭Niall Keane


    Yes, it's the government's fault that it got really cold so the water pipes burst and demand for grit shot up across the eurozone

    It is an offence to build or design a building without adequate insulation, so private builders / Architects / sub-contractors, engineers etc. would be liable to fines and/or imprisonment. Not so our councils? But it is the responsibility of the local government / council to maintain the local services, they do this with our taxes given to them by central government. Maybe they haven't been given them? Where is the tax going? Oh! that's right to the banks / developers?
    Your food bill must be pretty small these days with all the propaganda you have swallowed... cold weather? yea!
    A military coup would be quite easy in this country and could very easily be bloodless.

    To echo Morlar, I would think a coup without politicians' heads on stakes is like beer without alcohol, not a party at all?


  • #53
    hooradiation
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭hooradiation


    I'd love this oft-talked about coup to happen, mostly because i want to see what the keyboard warriors of boards would do once they've had their little temper tantrum.

    In real terms the country would be even worst off because amongst their ranks are people who don't even know what kind of democracy we live in, but i think it'd be worth it to see the look of uncertainty and confusion when they are standing in a vacated dail and someone asks "so...now what?"


  • #54
    blinding
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,462 ✭✭✭blinding


    Just keep voting Fianna Fáil. That will confuse them and mesmerise them so much that they will become inactive (sorry too late already done successfully)


  • #55
    Niall Keane
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,154 ✭✭✭Niall Keane


    I'd love this oft-talked about coup to happen, mostly because i want to see what the keyboard warriors of boards would do once they've had their little temper tantrum.

    Jeeze, I only brought it up at 11.07!!!:D


  • #56
    hooradiation
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭hooradiation


    Niall Keane wrote: »
    Jeeze, I only brought it up at 11.07!!!:D

    Please, it's part of the regular rotation in AH at this point.
    I think the whole "British isles" thing is the next clusterfuck of stupid after this.


  • #57
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    weldoninhio wrote: »
    We do not live in a Democracy. The main point of democracy is that everyone is equal in the eyes of the law, "one person, one vote". We don't use this in Ireland.

    If there are 2 candidates in an area of 10,000 people, and candidate A gets 2000 votes, and candidate B gets 2500 votes, but none of the above gets 5500 votes then Candidate B gets the job, even though the people have stated that they don't want either person to represent them.

    In my example 5500 voted none of the above!! I didn't say 5500 didn't bother voting!!

    The PR System is not working for us, so it should be changed. It basically says your damned if you do and your damned if you don't since the majority of current politicians are out for number 1, no matter what party they represent or what promises they make while canvassing for votes. Something needs to be done for the future of the country.


  • #58
    Morlar
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,273 ✭✭✭Morlar


    hooradiation wrote: »
    I'd love this oft-talked about coup to happen

    We will take that as a 'maybe'.
    hooradiation wrote: »
    i think it'd be worth it to see the look of uncertainty and confusion when they are standing in a vacated dail and someone asks "so...now what?"

    Think positive!!


  • #59
    hooradiation
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭hooradiation


    weldoninhio wrote: »
    In my example 5500 voted none of the above!! I didn't say 5500 didn't bother voting!!

    The PR System is not working for us, so it should be changed. It basically says your damned if you do and your damned if you don't since the majority of current politicians are out for number 1, no matter what party they represent or what promises they make while canvassing for votes. Something needs to be done for the future of the country.

    What other system would you like to see then?
    I disagree with your assessment of PR and everything else, but lets hear it.

    What's your big idea.


  • #60
    Niall Keane
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,154 ✭✭✭Niall Keane


    I disagree with your assessment of PR and everything else, but lets hear it.

    What's your big idea.


    Duhh! a military coup!!! Crom laughs at your PR and everything else!!!


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  • #61
    Boom Boom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 240 ✭✭Boom Boom


    Morlar wrote: »
    That's guarded by Mary Harney and a pack of rottweillers. We will need to bring a side of ham.

    And also a big stick for the dogs.


    Rumour has it she ate the rottweillers during our recent bad weather while on guard duty. she started a fire and used the pepper spray and stolen ketchup sachets she keeps in her purse for flavouring*


    *may not have actually happened


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