Military Coup in Ireland

Niall Keane

No water for 5 days, NAMA robbing us and bailing out the f##kers who have taken our jobs and homes, governmant protecting bank shareholders with our grandchildrens earnings, taxes sorry "levies" increasing, Developers private assets protected but family homes reposessed, schools closed last week as the councils are without grit in more ways than one. etc. etc. etc......:mad:

Anyone know, able to persuade, or is there any general in the Irish Army willing to be a patriot and stand up for his country against its government? Can anything other than strong central command save us now???

banquo

Well, there are probably more TDs than Irish soldiers.

KerranJast

Niall Keane wrote: »

Can anything other than strong central command save us now???

A General Election. Quit whining. We live in a Democracy.

Niall Keane

Well, there are probably more TDs than Irish soldiers.

True, and most of them seem to be well protected by enough fat not to need kevlar!

bonerm

I heard the Irish Army is on his holidays til next week.

Morlar

This is why guns are illegal in Ireland - we have a history of taking over.

pablomakaveli

Military Coup? Sure why not. I've a couple of RPGs in the closet that are only gathering dust.

panda100

Niall Keane wrote: »

Anyone know, able to persuade, or is there any general in the Irish Army willing to be a patriot and stand up for his country against its government? Can anything other than strong central command save us now???

Dont think state army's are well known for starting revoloutions!They'll be on the bankers and corrupt politicians side till death.

Coriolanus

Morlar wrote: »

This is why guns are illegal in Ireland - we have a history of taking over.

No we've a long history of trying to take over and failing miserably in the face of a better armed and professionally trained force.

panda100

Morlar wrote: »

This is why guns are illegal in Ireland - we have a history of taking over.

I would hardly call the right to our own freedom as 'taking over' .

Poccington

panda100 wrote: »

Dont think state army's are well known for starting revoloutions!They'll be on the bankers and corrupt politicians side till death.

Of course we're on their side.

I mean considering all the damage they've done to this country, I just want to shower them with hugs and kisses.

Niall Keane

Military Coup? Sure why not. I've a couple of RPGs in the closet that are only gathering dust.

You've the right username too!!!

neilthefunkeone

Bit of a problem folks, but the lads in the Lebanon have the gun for this month.. Maybe in feb we can book it...

Niall Keane

How long, how many minutes do you think it would take for the state to fall? Although the UN recognised Irish government seems to be permanently in exile / holidaying abroad anyway?

Poccington

Niall Keane wrote: »

How long, how many minutes do you think it would take for the state to fall? Although the UN recognised Irish government seems to be permanently in exile / holidaying abroad anyway?

It would take about zero minutes.

Mainly because it's never going to happen.

Morlar

Niall Keane wrote: »

How long, how many minutes do you think it would take for the state to fall? Although the UN recognised Irish government seems to be permanently in exile / holidaying abroad anyway?

Once we put FF & the Greens against the wall and take them out Caucescau style - there would be no UN recognised govt. They will have to deal with me us directly. Comrades.

Coriolanus

The only way I could ever see the Army weighing in on the issue would be if the Government of the day denied the public elections indefinitely.
Which would never happen.

--Kaiser--

1. Military coup
2. ????
3. Profit

Morlar

Nevore wrote: »

The only way I could ever see the Army weighing in on the issue would be if the Government of the day denied the public elections indefinitely.
Which would never happen.

Or like, you know, make us keep voting till we make the 'right' choice or something.

humanji

pablomakaveli wrote: »

Military Coup? Sure why not. I've a couple of RPGs in the closet that are only gathering dust.

Playing games will get us nowhere.

Coriolanus

Morlar wrote: »

Or like, you know, make us keep voting till we make the 'right' choice or something.

There's no constitutional limits set on the amount of times a referendum on a single subject can be called, nor set time frames which re-runs have to abide by.
There are set periods for Governments to sit during, after which an election has to be called.

pablomakaveli

humanji wrote: »

Playing games will get us nowhere.

We could always throw them. Those boxes have sharp corners.:D

SeaFields

Lads, lads, lads... start small. That allies didnt go straight into Berlin now did they.

Objective one : capturing a command post from which further advances can take place.

I propose Cowens caravan in Connemara.

Mission codename - "Biffos bunker"

Morlar

SeaFields wrote: »

Lads, lads, lads... start small. That allies didnt go straight into Berlin now did they.

Objective one : capturing a command post from which further advances can take place.

I propose Cowens caravan in Connemara.

Mission codename - "Biffos bunker"

That's guarded by Mary Harney and a pack of rottweillers. We will need to bring a side of ham.

And also a big stick for the dogs.

pablomakaveli

SeaFields wrote: »

Lads, lads, lads... start small. That allies didnt go straight into Berlin now did they.

Objective one : capturing a command post from which further advances can take place.

I propose Cowens caravan in Connemara.

Mission codename - "Biffos bunker"

We need to be careful though. Remember they have Willie O' Dea.

SeaFields

Morlar wrote: »

That's guarded by Mary Harney

AHHHH!!! retreat, retreat :eek:

oppenheimer1

Niall Keane wrote: »

No water for 5 days, NAMA robbing us and bailing out the f##kers who have taken our jobs and homes, governmant protecting bank shareholders with our grandchildrens earnings, taxes sorry "levies" increasing, Developers private assets protected but family homes reposessed, schools closed last week as the councils are without grit in more ways than one. etc. etc. etc......:mad:

Anyone know, able to persuade, or is there any general in the Irish Army willing to be a patriot and stand up for his country against its government? Can anything other than strong central command save us now???

Only one wor can adequately describe how I feel reading this...

- Facepalm -

SeaFields

pablomakaveli wrote: »

We need to be careful though. Remember they have Willie O' Dea.

Right, we need to block all advances from the south of Connemara... silage bales on all the bridges over the shannon. That'll sort willie out.

pablomakaveli

SeaFields wrote: »

Right, we need to block all advances from the south of Connemara... silage bales on all the bridges over the shannon. That'll sort willie out.

Or we could build a three-foot high wall. He won't be able to climb over that.:D

Dartz

I for one welcome our new military overlord and wish that they remember this post in a fewmonths time.

ChemOC

Dartz wrote: »

I for one welcome our new military overlord and wish that they remember this post in a fewmonths time.

Lets oust the government with a military coup and then we would have...... Willie O'Dea in command! Damn what's the point FF will always win.

SeaFields

We'd want to be careful of this fella...


"In the back of the head lads...just shoot them!"

http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/uncyclopedia/images/8/88/Enda_Kenny_Shooting.jpg

BigDuffman

Ha ha military coup...can you imagine the state of the transport system then!? MOWAG corridors.

And there would be no bus time-tables as the majority of the time would be spent getting on the bus then off the bus, taking the backpacks out of the bus and getting in trouble for not being on the bus. Then getting back on

Morlar

BigDuffman wrote: »

Ha ha military coup...can you imagine the state of the transport system then!? MOWAG corridors.

And there would be no bus time-tables as the majority of the time would be spent getting on the bus then off the bus, taking the backpacks out of the bus and getting in trouble for not being on the bus. Then getting back on

Who cares so long as cowen and gormleys heads are on pikes outside leinster house ? Dont sweat the little stuff - plenty of time for that later. 'Enda's tigers' can be in charge of the civil war to follow also any ethnic cleansing issues that might crop up.

Niall Keane

can you imagine the state of the transport system then!? ....................Then getting back on

as opposed to getting you there on a bus so you can work all day then leaving you to find your own way back in darkness on ice at -7C?

SeaFields

Niall Keane wrote: »

as opposed to getting you there on a bus so you can work all day then leaving you to find your own way back in darkness on ice at -7C?

BigDuffMan can be minister for transport.

Niall Keane

I for one welcome our new military overlord and wish that they remember this post in a fewmonths time.

Dartz, have you not signed up to the facebook page yet??? :eek:

bop, bop, bop ...... first against the wall!

weldoninhio

KerranJast wrote: »

A General Election. Quit whining. We live in a Democracy.

We do not live in a Democracy. The main point of democracy is that everyone is equal in the eyes of the law, "one person, one vote". We don't use this in Ireland.

If there are 2 candidates in an area of 10,000 people, and candidate A gets 2000 votes, and candidate B gets 2500 votes, but none of the above gets 5500 votes then Candidate B gets the job, even though the people have stated that they don't want either person to represent them.

mikom

Niall Keane wrote: »

Can anything other than strong central command save us now???

Captain Planet................. sure he sorted out the north.

SeaFields

mikom wrote: »

Captain Planet................. sure he sorted out the north.

I thought Captain Planet was Gormley's dress up act for the green convention every year.

I for one nominate Gerry to take the north. :cool:

Morlar

According to breaking news.ie France just surrendered.

mikom

SeaFields wrote: »

I thought Captain Planet was Gormley's dress up act for the green convention every year.
.

You are getting Captain Planet confused with Mr. burns or Nosferatu......

SeaFields

Morlar wrote: »

According to breaking news.ie France just surrendered.

Erra nothing new there.

KerranJast

weldoninhio wrote: »

We do not live in a Democracy. The main point of democracy is that everyone is equal in the eyes of the law, "one person, one vote". We don't use this in Ireland.

If there are 2 candidates in an area of 10,000 people, and candidate A gets 2000 votes, and candidate B gets 2500 votes, but none of the above gets 5500 votes then Candidate B gets the job, even though the people have stated that they don't want either person to represent them.

I think you'll find we do

Democracy is a political government either carried out directly by the people (direct democracy) or by means of elected representatives of the people (Representative democracy).

Ireland is a constitutional democratic Republic and parliamentary Democracy. In your scenario above candidate B got the most votes so is elected. It's not rocket science. The sovereign people of Ireland voted to use Proportional Representation as their means of electing representatives to the Dail. Deal with it.

seamus

Yes, it's the government's fault that it got really cold so the water pipes burst and demand for grit shot up across the eurozone :rolleyes:

A military coup would be quite easy in this country and could very easily be bloodless. Military coups very rarely involve a separate army or a private army. Usually what you do is that you get one or more army generals onside with you, generals who have the loyalty of their subordinates.
Ideally you would get the head of the police force with you too. The promise of a good position with lots of hookers/cash works well in such cases.

Now, although the taoiseach is in charge you are in fact in control due to your allegiences, so you invent some obscure trumped-up charge on which to arrest the taoiseach (and his cabinet if you wish), and place them under house arrest. Then you install yourself as the interim taoiseach, declare a state of emergency and suspend the Dáil. You use the Army to defend your home and the houses of the oireachtas. Very few other people have weapons, so you're unlikely to have any serious kind of uprising.

Now, in order for this to remain bloodless, you can't be a dictator. Populations don't like dictators. So you hold a general election. If you have enough allegiances, you can rig the general election so that your party is in charge. Otherwise you can hope that your opponent's popularity is low enough that the population will ignore your raping of the democratic process.

If you wish to install yourself as dictator after your successful (rigged) election, you have your party vote on a motion to declare a state of emergency which gives you complete control. With complete control, you "temporarily" suspend the constitution and invent a fictional war against anti-Irish insurgents and resident foreigners, in order to keep the population scared and distracted. You can use this phoney war to provide employment and make it appear like your policies are generating jobs and rescuing the economy. In order to ensure there are always fresh traitors to arrest, you continually tighten up your laws into more and more restrictive and ridiculous areas until it's a crime to do almost anything.

stovelid

No danger of a coup. Half the soldiers spend all their time on boards.



/please don't hurt me Makikomi

Morlar

seamus wrote: »

Now, in order for this to remain bloodless,

No one said that - we want blood !!

seamus wrote: »

you can't be a dictator.

Let us not be too hasty here comrades.

seamus wrote: »

Populations don't like dictators.

History says otherwise, in Ireland we can't be sure till we try it.

stovelid wrote: »

No danger of a coup. Half the army is on boards all the time.



/please don't hurt me Makikomi

That's exactly why this will work ! Command and control 24x7

SeaFields

You seem to have given an awful lot of thought to this Seamus....

Enda...is that you?

whodoo

this is weird. i was just thinking yesterday - imagine if there was a coup or somebody seize power/marched on the dail etc....

might distract us all from the so called recession.

Seren_

Hello, my name is Augusto Pinochet. Where does I apply for job??


:pac:

oppenheimer1

weldoninhio wrote: »

We do not live in a Democracy. The main point of democracy is that everyone is equal in the eyes of the law, "one person, one vote". We don't use this in Ireland.

If there are 2 candidates in an area of 10,000 people, and candidate A gets 2000 votes, and candidate B gets 2500 votes, but none of the above gets 5500 votes then Candidate B gets the job, even though the people have stated that they don't want either person to represent them.

Wrong, wrong wrong! In a two horse race the PR voting system is a straight runoff. If people aren't arsed to vote thats their problem, not the systems