Wear a burqa - face a €750 fine

unkel · 08-01-2010 02:36AM #1

Draft legislation in France

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Exerpt:

Muslim women who wear the full Islamic veil in France will face a possible 750-euro (1,000-dollar) fine, according to a draft bill unveiled Thursday by the leader of the parliamentary majority.

A bit extreme, isn't it? Freedom of expression and all that?

That said, there is a woman living my housing estate in Lucan who wears a burqa while driving a car. A case for careless / dangerous driving?

Midnight_EG · 08-01-2010 02:39AM

Wear a burqa - face a €750 fine.

Oh I see what you did

mikom · 08-01-2010 02:40AM

unkel wrote: »

Wear a burqa - face a €750 fine

Can't read my, can't read my
No he can't read my burqa - face (she`s got to love nobody)

mardybumbum · 08-01-2010 02:41AM

unkel wrote: »

Freedom of expression and all that?

Im sorry, but what exactly are they expressing.
Nowhere in the Qur'an does it state that a woman must wear one.

I wouldn't expect to be allowed to enter a shop with a balaclava on.

Senna · 08-01-2010 02:45AM

Those crazy frogs and their mad ideas, what ever will they get up to next.

Piste · 08-01-2010 02:47AM

Isn't it illegal to cover you face here 'cos of the whole IRA thing? If so, a similar law wouldn't be needed here.

sells · 08-01-2010 02:51AM

ah well the whole world is gettin too scared. I heard of a case in england where there were trying to ban people from wearing crosses in a school.

mikom · 08-01-2010 02:56AM

sells wrote: »

I heard of a case in england where there were trying to ban people from wearing crosses in a school.

Well, in fairness it was a secondary school for vampires.

grizzly · 08-01-2010 03:09AM

That takes care of only half the problem. They'll have to figure out how to fine the men as well. A beard tax?

tudlytops · 08-01-2010 03:14AM

Well if I travel to most Islamic countries as a women I am required to wear an Islamic veil regardless of my believes, so why shouldn't they have to take it off when coming to our countries?

Anton.Mamyko · 08-01-2010 03:15AM

sells wrote: »

ah well the whole world is gettin too scared. I heard of a case in england where there were trying to ban people from wearing crosses in a school.

Banning all religious symbols from schools would be a legit argument against the fine. Yer?

Zebra3 · 08-01-2010 03:21AM

Senna wrote: »

Those crazy frogs and their mad ideas, what ever will they get up to next.

You work for The Sun or just read it? :rolleyes:

Senna · 08-01-2010 03:27AM

Zebra3 wrote: »

You work for The Sun or just read it? :rolleyes:

I look at the pictures, does that count as reading?

tudlytops · 08-01-2010 03:28AM

Senna wrote: »

I look at the pictures, does that count as reading?

Well they do say a picture speaks 1000 words

speedboatchase · 08-01-2010 03:31AM

Good for them, who wants to go out looking like a post box anyway? At least France took some measure, whereas everyone is stepping on eggshells trying to appease Islam

This is actually real, try it

http://i.imgur.com/BL3Lo.gif

RMD · 08-01-2010 03:35AM

I'm all for tolerance and that ****e, but I don't like the idea of people being able to fully conceal themselves under such a large garment. You wouldn't feel safe walking beside someone wearing a balaclava would you?

I wouldn't mind the Burkas being banned anyway, I don't see it as anything other than backwards and forced upon women, if both men and women wore it at will my opinion would differ.

Piste · 08-01-2010 03:47AM

I bought a balaclava recently, it's the most non-threatening item of clothing ever. It's woollen knitted in different stripy colours with a giant pom-pom on top. I look like the gayest burglar ever.

RMD · 08-01-2010 03:54AM

Piste wrote: »

I bought a balaclava recently, it's the most non-threatening item of clothing ever. It's woollen knitted in different stripy colours with a giant pom-pom on top. I look like the gayest burglar ever.

That so you stand out cycling in the middle of the road?

Piste · 08-01-2010 04:27AM

Yes actually, I've gotten loads of stares while wearing it, it really does look ridiculous. I got it specifically for cycling as it keeps my whole face and neck warm, whereas a hat leaves my cheeks and nose all cold.

seanybiker · 08-01-2010 04:33AM

Some of the men are probably delighted at the thought of maybe having a hot wife. Im guessing they're all ugly though.

Sir Gallagher · 08-01-2010 04:36AM

Lol at the people outraged at the fact they cant wear a balaclava while out and about like it's their lifelong ambition!

"Oh to be free'd of the oppresor's chains so i can one day wear my balaclava in public..."

Yeah lads, it's the Muslims fault you can't wear a balaclava!

CrazyRabbit · 08-01-2010 12:30PM

1. The Burka is a traditional dress, not a religious one.
2. Most Islamic women who wear a Burka do so by their own free will. It's not just the men who choose to follow tradition!
3. Non believers are not required to wear a Burka when visiting Islamic countries. You are however expected to dress fairly conservatively. This applies to men and women.
4. The proposed French law does seem to target people from specific ethnic backgrounds and is therefore immoral. It also fails to protect a womans right to choose to wear the Burka if she wants to.
5. There are security concerns with people concealing their face etc, and any potential legislation should just focus on that rather than singling out specific types of clothing.

General Zod · 08-01-2010 12:32PM

Piste wrote: »

Isn't it illegal to cover you face here 'cos of the whole IRA thing? If so, a similar law wouldn't be needed here.

nope. There's no prohibition on having your face covered anywhere public.

pickarooney · 08-01-2010 12:36PM

It's a bunch of balls and hypocrisy of the highest order. The thinking behind it appears to be "your husband shouldn't be allowed to force you to wear a burqa so we'll ban you from doing it as we know better"

Beasty · 08-01-2010 12:52PM

Senna wrote: »

Those crazy frogs and their mad ideas, what ever will they get up to next.

A Google tax

Making shouting at your wife a criminal offence

stovelid · 08-01-2010 01:11PM

How is the French Ninja community taking this?

biko · 08-01-2010 01:14PM

The legislation is giving the Muslim women a chance to rights their husband will not allow them. Fair play! Boo for Burkas!

Wossack · 08-01-2010 01:21PM

Magnus wrote: »

The legislation is giving the Muslim women a chance to rights their husband will not allow them. Fair play! Boo for Burkas!

down with burkas, up with miniskirts!

Morlar · 08-01-2010 01:25PM

Magnus wrote: »

The legislation is giving the Muslim women a chance to rights their husband will not allow them. Fair play! Boo for Burkas!

Boo to Boo-urkas & Nae to Niqabs!

Nodin · 08-01-2010 01:26PM

tudlytops wrote: »

Well if I travel to most Islamic countries as a women I am required to wear an Islamic veil regardless of my believes, so why shouldn't they have to take it off when coming to our countries?

'If I get punched by a man in a track suit, I should punch every man in a track suit I see'

Great stuff.

Midnight_EG · 08-01-2010 01:26PM

Boo-urqasss

Wayyyy

:pac:

Wear a burqa - face a €750 fine

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