Mrs. Robinson

rovert · 08-01-2010 12:51AM

cloneslad wrote: »

nah, she's just a christian!!

Im sure she'll go to the Starlight Express church on Sunday and all will be forgiven.

easyeason3 · 08-01-2010 12:53AM

rovert wrote: »

Yeah as this explains your position perfectly:

Exactly!
If she did top herself were you going to mourn her? Did you know her to mourn her if something happened?
Who do you think it would effect if she did do something?
A random guy on the street? A random poster on an internet site?

It is a private issue that should never have made the papers.

efb · 08-01-2010 12:54AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMoXQOmIcgo

dreamer_ire · 08-01-2010 12:56AM

VERYinterested wrote: »

A self righteous politician (59) was raising money, £50k sterling, from two property developers so her lover (19) could open a restaurant built with council funds. She kept £5k back for herself. He was the only successful applicant in a tendering process. The relationship soured and she wanted the money paid back, but the cheques were to be paid to her and the Church her husband's sister runs. Her husband who happens to be first minister of Northern Ireland was aware of her indiscretions both financial and marital, ensured she paid the money back. Unfortunately for him, it is against the rules for public representatives not to declare such interests. Looks like he'll have to resign. She branded homosexuals as an abomination according to a verse from the Bible, the same piece also condemns infidelity.

Good summation... only thing you missed is that for an as yet unknown reason she initially decided that the property developer who died shortly after "gifting/loaning" her the 25k wasn't going to be paid back. This was the money that was to go to the church. According to Spotlight she then changed her mind and wanted it paid back into the man's estate.

A lot more to come methinks

rovert · 08-01-2010 12:57AM

easyeason3 wrote: »

Exactly!
If she did top herself were you going to mourn her? Did you know her to mourn her if something happened?
Who do you think it would effect if she did do something?
A random guy on the street? A random poster on an internet site?

It is a private issue that should never have made the papers.

This is a great troll job or you are back peddling, good stuff. Either way your point makes little sense. Her suicide attempt isnt even within the top 5 elements of the story now. Read up on the story and come back to the thread.

Jigga · 08-01-2010 12:57AM

Bottle_of_Smoke wrote: »

I don't get why people make such a big deal about the homosexuality is abomination comment. Only bible bashers say abomination, according to the bible it is an abomination, so what's the issue?

What I don't get even more is that Robinson also said "there is no more vile an act, other than homosexuality and sodomy, than child abuse"

The second comment is far far far worse and its not in a biblical context, yet the papers always talk about the abomination line, which is true.

Because she is a hypocrite and a bigot and it makes her public humiliation hilarious. Here's another one from her speaking to Hillary Clinton
"No woman would have put up with what she tolerated from her husband when he was president."

easyeason3 · 08-01-2010 01:05AM

rovert wrote: »

This is a great troll job or you are back peddling, good stuff. Either way your point makes little sense. Her suicide isnt even within the top 5 elements of the story now.

Ok, Rovert, you win... I am trolling, oh wait, no I'm back peddling...Damn it I can't decide!
Personally I feel it's making a bit of a feck of people who have commited suicide/ seriously thought about it. In my view I would think they are grasping for the publics sympathy & I have no time for anyone willing to play the suicide card in order to gain some form of ****ed up form of public affection.

End of story.

ColaBeDamned · 08-01-2010 01:05AM

The Graduate

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=4768733&o=all&op=1&view=all&subj=415667265334&aid=-1&id=725974277&oid=415667265334

Edit- sorry cloneslad, didn't see your post on pg.1!

rovert · 08-01-2010 01:09AM

easyeason3 wrote: »

Ok, Rovert, you win... I am trolling, oh wait, no I'm back peddling...Damn it I can't decide!
Personally I feel it's making a bit of a feck of people who have commited suicide/ seriously thought about it. In my view I would think they are grasping for the publics sympathy & I have no time for anyone willing to play the suicide card in order to gain some form of ****ed up form of public affection.

End of story.

Then why did you say this in your second post:

Who really cares?
Seriously, who actually cares apart from the family?

Just doesnt make a whole load sense even in how youve explained thing. Anyway I think both of us are taking away from what should be a light hearted thread about a major public scandal.

humberklog · 08-01-2010 01:10AM

easyeason3 wrote: »

Ok, Rovert, you win... I am trolling, oh wait, no I'm back peddling...Damn it I can't decide!
Personally I feel it's making a bit of a feck of people who have commited suicide/ seriously thought about it. In my view I would think they are grasping for the publics sympathy & I have no time for anyone willing to play the suicide card in order to gain some form of ****ed up form of public affection.

End of story.

But that makes the story even more salacious. This is a great story and very interesting. You asked who really cares? How could a person with half an interest in current affairs not find it interesting? Little gem of a story.

I also think she's weirdly hot.

Bottle_of_Smoke · 08-01-2010 01:10AM

Jigga wrote: »

Because she is a hypocrite and a bigot and it makes her public humiliation hilarious. Here's another one from her speaking to Hillary Clinton
"No woman would have put up with what she tolerated from her husband when he was president."

Is adultery an "abomination" ?

Anyway I don't mean to sound like I'm defending her, I'm just saying the child abuse comment is far more offensive than the abomination one. Not only to gays but also victims of child abuse

imeddyhobbs · 08-01-2010 01:11AM

These two are starting to sound like The Hamiltons

El Weirdo · 08-01-2010 01:11AM

humberklog wrote: »

But that makes the story even more salacious. This is a great story and very interesting. You asked who would find it interesting? How could a person with half an interest in current affairs not find it interesting? Little gem of a story.

I also think she's weirdly hot.

Kirk?

humberklog · 08-01-2010 01:13AM

El Weirdo wrote: »

Kirk?

No, Peter.

thebaz · 08-01-2010 01:14AM

bizarre story - Peter once led an invasion into the Republic in the 80s - he has mellowed with age -- he looked shell shocked and emotionally wrecked yesterday , for one who used to be so self righteous - life certainly changes , just like our weather

El Weirdo · 08-01-2010 01:15AM

humberklog wrote: »

No, Peter.

In fairness it was 50/50. No one else can possibly find that hot.

K-9 · 08-01-2010 01:16AM

Jigga wrote: »

Because she is a hypocrite and a bigot and it makes her public humiliation hilarious. Here's another one from her speaking to Hillary Clinton
"No woman would have put up with what she tolerated from her husband when he was president."

Got to love when the self righteous Christian fundamentalists get their come uppance. Same type who are will drop the "commie, pinko, liberal, pc" card at every opportunity.

Its these same "types" they are now looking for sympathy from.

Anyway, I do sympathise, but Good God, a 57/58 year old woman and a 19 yr old man?

easyeason3 · 08-01-2010 01:19AM

rovert wrote: »

Then why did you say this in your second post:

Just doesnt make a whole load sense even in how youve explained thing. Anyway I think both of us are taking away from what should be a light hearted thread about a major public scandal.

I said that because if she had done the deed then who do you think would feel the pain of loss the most?
Me? You? A random colleague?

I'm not a betting person but my money would be on the family.

Yeah it's a public scandal, but that part of it should have been kept private. The only reason there was so much of a splash made was to paint them in a vunerable light.

ashyle · 08-01-2010 01:24AM

thebaz wrote: »

bizarre story - Peter once led an invasion into the Republic in the 80s - he has mellowed with age -- he looked shell shocked and emotionally wrecked yesterday , for one who used to be so self righteous - life certainly changes , just like our weather

he looked like a broken man on RTE news yesterday. I think it should be a private matter. She suffers from depression. So she obviously has problems, nothing she says (about gays etc) should be taken seriously in my opinion.

I feel sorry for the family if this suicide attempt thing is true, no family should have to deal with that, it's a devastating thing.

rovert · 08-01-2010 01:25AM

easyeason3 wrote: »

I said that because if she had done the deed then who do you think would feel the pain of loss the most?
Me? You? A random colleague?

I'm not a betting person but my money would be on the family.

Yeah it's a public scandal, but that part of it should have been kept private. The only reason there was so much of a splash made was to paint them in a vunerable light.

I guess I didnt read your mind on your earlier posts, sorry about that.

Please stop.

easyeason3 · 08-01-2010 01:29AM

rovert wrote: »

I guess I didnt read your mind on your earlier posts, sorry about that.

Please stop.

I hope something like that never touches your doorstep because it is devastating & there is no need to act the smart arse about it.

humberklog · 08-01-2010 01:32AM

easyeason3 wrote: »

I hope something like that never touches your doorstep because it is devastating & there is no need to act the smart arse about it.

I wouldn't mind her landing on my doorstep. Even if she is touched a little by the bag of spanners.

rovert · 08-01-2010 01:32AM

easyeason3 wrote: »

I hope something like that never touches your doorstep because it is devastating & there is no need to act the smart arse about it.

It has.

I just think you need to read up about the story as the statements you've made indicate you have little understanding of it or it's implications.

If you do have issues with suicide in your personal life seek help.

Hazys · 08-01-2010 01:39AM

G'wan Kirk

http://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs199.snc3/20658_280541069277_725974277_4768733_2202829_n.jpg

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rovert · 08-01-2010 01:41AM

The thing about Iris's suicide attempt which some people are questioning the timing of the discloser and even whether it happened at all is that what did this attempt involve? No ambulance was called so I don’t think she slit her wrists or down a bottle of pills. So what was it? Just a cry for help after being unfaithful to her husband, her religion, compromising her husband's and her own job along with their place in the community. Id be depressed too.

Her suicide attempt is the least definite thing about the whole affair.

ColaBeDamned · 08-01-2010 02:52AM

Robinson Broke Law In Cafe Deal

The wife of NI's first minister broke the law by not declaring her financial interest in a business deal.

BBC Northern Ireland's Spotlight programme said Iris Robinson, an MP, an MLA and a councillor, obtained £50,000 from two property developers.

The money was paid to her 19-year-old lover Kirk McCambley to help him launch a new cafe. She later asked him for £5,000 for herself.

Mrs Robinson was said to be unable to comment for health reasons.

Spotlight also reported that her husband Peter Robinson became aware of the money she had received from the developers.

The programme said that while he pressed his wife to return the money, he failed to tell the proper authorities about the transaction, despite being obliged to act in the public interest by the

Much of the information in the programme came from Selwyn Black, a former RAF chaplain, who worked for Mrs Robinson for two years. He showed the programme makers over 150 text messages he received from Mrs Robinson.

Iris Robinson said in December that she was retiring from public life because of an ongoing battle with mental illness.

On Wednesday, she released
in which she admitted that she had tried to take her own life after what she described as a brief affair.

In an interview in response, Mr Robinson said that he was "devastated" and "deeply hurt" but that he had forgiven his wife and would not leave her.

Cafe

Spotlight revealed that the man with whom Mrs Robinson had the affair was Kirk McCambley, now 21, and the joint owner of Lock Keeper's Inn off the Shaw's Road in south Belfast.

The programme reported that a sexual relationship between the two began in the summer of 2008. Mrs Robinson then revealed to Selwyn Black she intended to set up Mr McCambley in business.

At that time Castlereagh Borough Council, on which Mrs Robinson serves as a councillor, had advertised for a tenant to run a cafe at a new project on the banks of the River Lagan.

The programme reported that Mrs Robinson then sought to provide Mr McCambley with capital to open the business.

She obtained a total of £50,000 from two developers, Fred Fraser, now deceased, and Ken Campbell to fund the project.

Lobbied

Spotlight reported that while Mrs Robinson was asking Mr Campbell for the money, she also lobbied on his behalf for one of his building projects in her parliamentary constituency.

Mr McCambley said he received two cheques, which he invested in kitchen equipment and furniture.

He also told the programme that after he received the money Mrs Robinson had then asked him to give her £5,000 in cash.

Spotlight reported that in July 2008, six weeks after Castlereagh Borough Council advertised for expressions of interest in the cafe project, only one applicant met the criteria - Mr McCambley.

The deal was sealed on 28 August and Iris Robinson was in attendance as the council authorised the signing of the lease.

The laws covering local government state that once Mrs Robinson had a financial interest in the business, she was obliged to declare it at any meeting she attended where it was being considered. She failed to do so.

Code of conduct

Spotlight reported that she also broke a cluster of other rules in the
- as many as five elements of the code.

As an MP, she was also legally obliged to declare the £50,000 she received from the developers in the register of members' interest at both
where she served as an MLA, and
She failed to do so.

Some time later, Mrs Robinson's relationship with Mr McCambley ended. At some point afterwards, she decided that he should pay back the money that had been given to him.

Mrs Robinson told Mr McCambley that half the money should be paid to her and the other half to a church in east Belfast where her husband's sister worked as a pastor.

It is understood she later decided that the money should be returned to Ken Campbell.

When Peter Robinson found out about his wife's financial dealings, he insisted that the money should go back to whence it came.

However he did not tell the proper authorities what he knew about the transaction despite being obliged by the ministerial code to act in the public interest at all times.

On Thursday, Mr Robinson's solicitors said he was thoroughly satisfied that he has at all times acted properly and fulfilled all requirements, and would robustly challenge any allegation to the contrary.

They said that Iris Robinson was too unwell to respond.

The DUP released a brief statement after the programme which read: "Following allegations made about Peter Robinson in the BBC's Spotlight programme on Thursday 7th January 2010, Mr Robinson will be consulting his legal team on Friday."

Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/uk_news/northern_ireland/8447383.stm

Published: 2010/01/08 00:20:04 GMT

themont85 · 08-01-2010 03:34AM

Does his café do Iris coffees?

plein de force · 08-01-2010 03:51AM

ohh how i love this
i heard someone on the radio recalling how iris robinson said homosexuality was an abomonantion and god abhors it and it went against her christain faith

i wonder how her "god" views her fcuking someone else while she's still married and then trying to kill herself, what a horrible little hag

Jigga · 08-01-2010 03:55AM

You'd have to be sceptical given all thats gone if she even did attempt suicide, what a despicable person she is.

garbanzo · 08-01-2010 11:52AM

"Kirk McCambley the 21 year-old Roman Catholic cafe owner, was named as the young lover of Mrs Robinson during a BBC documentary, which went on to make a series of allegations about her financial dealings. Within hours of the documentary airing on BBC NI, almost 2,000 people had joined a group, the Kirk McCambley Appreciation Society , on the social networking site."

Maybe we now know the real reason for Peter Robinson's shock at this ! !

Mrs. Robinson

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