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Would you prefer your girlfriend to be well-educated/nice or attractive/sexy?

  • 05-01-2010 06:17PM
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 3 Need


    I think a lot of women in Ireland are complaining because looks are valued too much.

    They tell me that sometimes they feel their hard-earned education and witty banter are overlooked.

    One woman said "I was in the nightclub talking to a guy and even though I have Masters and was challenging the guy's views, he seemed more interested in the girls with short skirts and pretty legs but not much to say".

    I am talking about a relationship here, of course for just a one-night stand or sex it is obvious and understandable that a guy would choose the girl with the nicest body rather than a girl who is erm...just nice and intelligent.

    But for the long-term is it more important for you that you can have in-depth conversations with your girlfriend or is the eyecandy factor a higher priority for you?

    One guy I know said "Mary is great, she gets me, we have loads in common and I love talking to her but Stacey has longer legs, bigger breasts and even though she has a smaller brain and not much to say for herself, I prefer to show her off to the lads on a night out"

    Are we being unfair to the Irish women, are we too quick to label them plain janes and we don't take the time to see their inner beauty because we are too busy studying Stacey's legs?

    or perhaps should women recognise and accept that superficial beauty is a key factor on girlfriend selection and not give men such grief about it?

    hell, I've never met a guy who doesn't appreciate a good-looking lady (however I've met many who don't appreciate an intelligent or witty woman - indeed sometimes it inspires the opposite reaction, dislike)

    The woman do complain with some justification about being judged solely on their looks but then they themselves spend an awful lot of effort on looking beautiful. Look at how many toileteries the average lady has or check out the number of women who flock to post-christmas sales to get new clothes or look at how many of them are booked into tanning or waxing studios (I never see men leaving these places)

    So perhaps one might conclude that although women dislike the fact that superficial beuaty is considered so important they really strive wholeheartedly to achieve it themselves and thus strengthen and contribute to that mindset.

    I think almost every man in the world, if he was honest would say he prioritises looks above all else ( and if she can talk about stuff and isn't crazed then it's a bonus)

    The question is should we feel ashamed, as men for admiring superficial beauty above all else.

    I don't think so, I think it's a great thing and gets a bad press. I think it should be appreciated more.

    What do you think?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,100 ✭✭✭✭TestTransmission


    She's both


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,575 ✭✭✭✭FlutterinBantam


    Once she doesn't say 'done' and 'seen' in the wrong context, I'll give her loads of bell.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,178 ✭✭✭✭NothingMan


    Yes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,783 ✭✭✭Hank_Jones


    You have Masters?

    What, like slavery?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 942 ✭✭✭whadabouchasir


    IMO if a woman is really ignorant this can be a big turn off.Do you really want to go out with someone that you can't have an intelligent conversation with?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,287 ✭✭✭jiltloop


    "Would you prefer your girlfriend to be well-educated/nice and attractive/sexy?"

    Yes please


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,159 ✭✭✭✭phasers


    Your thread title implies that sexy people can't be nice.


  • Posts: 6,045 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    phasers wrote: »
    Your thread title implies that sexy people can't be nice.

    Nail on the head.

    Why settle for one or the other. Plenty of ladies around who fulfill all those requirements. Also, this
    I think almost every man in the world, if he was honest would say he prioritises looks above all else

    is complete horse****.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,916 ✭✭✭RonMexico


    Well -educated does not automatically mean that they can hold an interesting conversation in my experience.

    Any eejit can get a degree these days.

    I find most Irish women care little about discussing anything other than reality tv bollocks or celebrity gossip drivel. Anything else just results in a vacant blank expression.

    Can't say I have had the same experience with well-educated women from other countries.


  • Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 23,257 Mod ✭✭✭✭GLaDOS


    phasers wrote: »
    Your thread title implies that sexy people can't be nice.
    And vice versa.

    I wouldn't go out with a girl if she wasn't nice, reasonable intelligent and attractive to me.

    Cake, and grief counseling, will be available at the conclusion of the test



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,238 ✭✭✭✭Diabhal Beag


    Looks and a nice personality. Doesn't need to be a possible Nobel Prize winner or anything.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,944 ✭✭✭✭4zn76tysfajdxp


    Need wrote: »
    One woman said "I was in the nightclub talking to a guy and even though I have Masters and was challenging the guy's views, he seemed more interested in the girls with short skirts and pretty legs but not much to say".

    She sounds needy. Perfect for you. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,044 ✭✭✭colly10


    A mix between eye candy and personality, I don't care if the person I was with is intelligent or not as long as they're not dizzy. My ex didn't know the difference between there, their and they're at all and although I took the piss things like that arn't important, how intelligent they are doesn't affect their personality.
    Who cares whether the person your seeing has a masters or not, it adds nothing to a person in my opinion, I don't even care whether or not they're driven


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 426 ✭✭ddef


    no fat chicks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,584 ✭✭✭PCPhoto


    ok....if she's good looking and not particularly intelligent - what am I supposed to do after the first few mins in bed together ..... watch tv ?

    if she's able to have a coherent conversation we can at least discuss how this wont develop into a relationship.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 234 ✭✭thebossanova


    ddef wrote: »
    no fat chicks.

    they need loving too!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,225 ✭✭✭Pedro K


    ddef wrote: »
    no fat chicks.
    they need loving too!

    At a price....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,025 ✭✭✭slipss


    Need wrote: »
    One woman said "I was in the nightclub talking to a guy and even though I have Masters and was challenging the guy's views, he seemed more interested in the girls with short skirts and pretty legs but not much to say".

    One Woman sounds like a bitch to be honest. How did she know that the girls with the pretty legs and short skirts weren't inteligent and well educated with wonderful personalities and loads to say for themselves? Plus any one that would complain about a member of the opposite sex not wanting to get with them "even though" they have a masters sounds like a bit of a gob****e. "challenging the guys views"? What because that's what people come to a club on a Friday night for? Maybe if she tried to have a laugh with someone in a nightclub instead starting a debate about the Israeli - Palestinian situation she'd have better luck. Time and a place and all that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭jester77


    Once she has her Masters for the bedroom and is a slave in the kitchen, then it doesn't matter what she says...

    ...but only when the football is not on!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    The two aren't mutually exclusive.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83 ✭✭witty_name


    I always find the better a girl's personality she is, the more attractive she is regardless of if she's stereotypically attractive.
    I think a lot of people feel that way, so someone who you think has an amazing personality will also be very attractive/ sexy to you!


  • Posts: 81,308 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Stetson Zealous Numeral


    colly10 wrote: »
    A mix between eye candy and personality, I don't care if the person I was with is intelligent or not as long as they're not dizzy.

    people generally aren't dizzy, unless they need to see a doctor...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,473 ✭✭✭R0ot


    I see no kinky/nympho option. . .


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,229 ✭✭✭sesna


    The problem with women is they become expired goods once they hit the menopause. I suppose in that instance (excluding a bucket of lubrication) a personality is the only thing that can be salvaged from a bad situation.
    But people dont think that far ahead when they're choosing a partner.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,082 ✭✭✭sheesh


    honestly i have never been in the situation where I have had the choice between the really nice intelligent girl and the really dumb blond with the appropriately sized boobies I either meet a girl and we get on or (more frequently) I am ignored. Your question has no real basis in (my) reality.


    Also I have noticed that people who complain about the lack of intelligent conversation are sometimes not people I would consider intelligent.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,594 ✭✭✭bonerm


    I'd prefer a woman who was intelligent. I couldn't care less if she didn't even have the leaving cert never mind a masters. Some of the dumbest people I know are educated and qualified up to the eyeballs.

    Aside, it's interesting that the OP mentions the woman who talked about "was challenging the guy's views" as tho rampant displays of intelligence and one-upsmanship was some attractive attribute on her part?

    I work with a woman like this atm and (other than work related convo) I've noticed she only ever pipes up when it comes time for her to contradict some point she may have overheard in conversation. This is without doubt her least attractive feature (even moreso than her awful accent and generally unpopular hair-colour).

    Also I might point out that this is not a gender based opinion either. It's not a case of not wanting to be contradicted/outsmarted by a woman. I find that you run into even more men with this character trait of wanting to be seen to right all the time (even when they're wrong) and rest assured they are equally tedious to have work with or spend time in the company of.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 809 ✭✭✭Terodil


    I know this is probably not AH level but... I think it's not a choice between two extremes but three.

    1. physical attractiveness
    2. intelligence
    3. emotional warmth

    I would like all three please.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,572 ✭✭✭✭brummytom


    Obviously I'd have to be physically attracted to them, but a good personality/sense of humour plays a massive part in how much a girl appeals to me


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,328 ✭✭✭gamblitis


    Looks and a nice personality. Doesn't need to be a possible Nobel Prize winner or anything.

    +1


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,909 ✭✭✭Agent J


    Need wrote: »
    I think a lot of women in Ireland are complaining because looks are valued too much.

    They tell me that sometimes they feel their hard-earned education and witty banter are overlooked.

    One woman said "I was in the nightclub talking to a guy and even though I have Masters and was challenging the guy's views, he seemed more interested in the girls with short skirts and pretty legs but not much to say".

    There is your problem.
    Night clubs usually arent the place to go to seek rational,well thought out and reasoned debate.


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