Another Brilliant Ryanair Retort

no1beemerfan · 04-01-2010 06:31PM

I got a flight to EMA at the end of Jan for €38 return. That includes the card fee AND priorty boarding. And today I've ordered a pre-pay mastercard so hopefully can get cheaper flights

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Don't know if this helps anyone though!

Fratton Fred · 04-01-2010 06:44PM

mickoneill30 wrote: »

If Dunnes or Superquinn started doing this would we have the same responses or would you all be posting in the Rip Off Republic forum?

To compare it like for like, it would be like Dunnes charging you a credit card charge for every item you bought.

I have booked flights where the charge is per passenger, per flight so for a family of three, we paid €30. Ok the flight was cheap, but I do find it annoying that they go on and on about 1c flights and all that when quite clearly they are not.

c4cat · 04-01-2010 07:06PM

mickoneill30 wrote: »

So if I'm reading the responses above right,

It's OK to charge €5 per item if somebody pays by credit card when the credit card company is actually only putting on a 1% or 2% charge.

If Dunnes or Superquinn started doing this would we have the same responses or would you all be posting in the Rip Off Republic forum?

No I would use cash instead, as I would use a neteller prepaid card with ryanair.

Sheeps · 04-01-2010 07:12PM

mickoneill30 wrote: »

So if I'm reading the responses above right,

It's OK to charge €5 per item if somebody pays by credit card when the credit card company is actually only putting on a 1% or 2% charge.

If Dunnes or Superquinn started doing this would we have the same responses or would you all be posting in the Rip Off Republic forum?

I'd happily accept a €5 credit card fee from Dunnes or Superquinn if I were getting all my shopping for free.

Joey the lips · 04-01-2010 07:32PM

Ryanair reminds me of my history teacher in school.

Bug the sh1t of me, Every time they speak it does my head in. Cannot deal with them without problems but just like my history teacher I know that without them I would have never prob left this island as much as i did.

SantryRed · 04-01-2010 07:44PM

I actually don't see peoples problems with Ryanair at all.

RoyalMarine · 04-01-2010 07:52PM

i dont mind paying 5 euro for a hard backed no leg room horrible seat on a plane going somewhere.
i dont even mind paying €5 for a laser booking, or €10 for a credit card booking.

there are ways around that.

heck, i dont even mind standing in a queue for ages waiting to get on, and get off the flight.

what i do mind is paying €30 to bring my fucking clothes with me.

€30 euro for a max of 15kg bag.
€100 euro for a max of 30kg with 2 bags.

if you try to avoid bringing a bag, and stuff everything into your hand luggage which is capped at a max of 10kg, and limited in size to fit in the over head compartment, they will try and catch you out.
they have some evil mannered staff walking around where you queue up for the flight trying to catch people out. they tell you to try fit it in the baggage compartment checking area and if it fits, they ask you to weigh it! if your unlucky enough to get caught, then you dont pay €30 euro. oh no. you get fucking raped worse at the desk!
15kg bag would have cost you €30. but if your caught and didnt check a bag in online, its over €60 at the ryanair desk in the airport!

thats where you get ripped off.

tolosenc · 04-01-2010 08:01PM

Ryanair is a piece of **** airline. Aer Lingus ftw, even if it costs a few extra shekels.

Btw rossie1977, you have a visa if you're paying a tenner for easyjet, other credit cards have lower fees.

The really unacceptable thing Ryanair have is the €5 online check in fee. Profit-taking by another name. If there is no way around it, and it is added because of their operating practice, it should be included in the quoted price.

Run_to_da_hills · 04-01-2010 08:22PM

Ryanair = A Mc Donalds with wings.

Tellox · 04-01-2010 08:32PM

Sorry, I'm sure this has probably been said in some way shape or form, but in all honestly like. ****ing hell. I've flown RyanAir, and at the rate I was paying, I wasn't expecting some ****ing private air force one courier to my destination, 6 course meal inclusive.

It's a cheap airline. Get that? cheap Airline. You are FLYING across the mother****ing skies, into foreign countries, for cheap. The mood you arrive in is not guaranteed, but a few bob extra in your back pocket is. If you want the good mood too, fly with an airline you like rather than one you're just going to spend your evening moaning about.

And say what you will about O'Leary - a massive arsehole he is, but a clever businessman (and one of the very few to come from this country) he also is.

oppenheimer1 · 04-01-2010 08:35PM

Sheeps wrote: »

I'd happily accept a €5 credit card fee from Dunnes or Superquinn if I were getting all my shopping for free.

Per item?

What I find annoying about Ryanair is all this BS about cheap flights. Only a small minority get those fares, and in order to get them you have to be prepared to know quite far in advance and fly at an ungodly hour. Last year the average fare was €50 each way. that means for every 1c flight there is someone paying €100. Airlines don't make profits on 1c flights. The only reason ryanair offers those 1c flights is for the maintainence of their "low fares" brand, not out of the goodness of their hearts. In fact I expect the availability of those cheap seats to reduce to a trickle over the next few years as there are not many areas left in the company to introduce new efficiencies. Inflation will drive up costs, but 1c fares have a nice marketing ring to them. Expect more restrictions, more and higher fees, more charges.
However this reality will be true for all airlines.

Although I don't like flying with Ryanair I sometimes use them, but I would never again fly for longer than 90mins with them, they don't pump enough fresh air into the cabin because it burns more fuel to do so. It can get very uncomfortable. Even when I travel to London I avoid them if I can, Cityjet will get me there and back with bags to London City for €100 at the weekend, with complimentary wine/beer on the flight as well as all the other old frills you used to get. Its almost always more expensive and takes longer when you fly ryanair and include cost of bags, and trains to and from the airport.

DublinWriter · 04-01-2010 08:38PM

jumpguy wrote: »

God, everytime Ryanair are criticised, they counter-criticise the organisation that criticised them, then blab on about low fares.

Yes, the corporate PR equivalent of gain-saying "Yeah, but yore ma...."

oppenheimer1 · 04-01-2010 08:39PM

RoyalMarineComm wrote: »

i dont mind paying 5 euro for a hard backed no leg room horrible seat on a plane going somewhere.
i dont even mind paying €5 for a laser booking, or €10 for a credit card booking.

there are ways around that.

heck, i dont even mind standing in a queue for ages waiting to get on, and get off the flight.

what i do mind is paying €30 to bring my fucking clothes with me.

€30 euro for a max of 15kg bag.
€100 euro for a max of 30kg with 2 bags.

if you try to avoid bringing a bag, and stuff everything into your hand luggage which is capped at a max of 10kg, and limited in size to fit in the over head compartment, they will try and catch you out.
they have some evil mannered staff walking around where you queue up for the flight trying to catch people out. they tell you to try fit it in the baggage compartment checking area and if it fits, they ask you to weigh it! if your unlucky enough to get caught, then you dont pay €30 euro. oh no. you get fucking raped worse at the desk!
15kg bag would have cost you €30. but if your caught and didnt check a bag in online, its over €60 at the ryanair desk in the airport!

thats where you get ripped off.

The trick is to take out all your clothes and put them on. Hell I'd do it in front of the staff if they were snotty with me.

Mr. Presentable · 04-01-2010 08:54PM

Ryanair flight costs to a city should be reckoned in consideration of additional travel costs to the city.

A quick example.

AerLingus Dub to Milan 5 - 8 March €66.68

Ryanair, same dates to Milan €88.78 - but you are not in Milan, you are in Bergamo, another city. Not just not cheaper, also not the same place.

As Frankie Boyle said, Ryanair are going to do flights to New York for £9.99. They land just outside New York - in Dublin!

Run_to_da_hills · 04-01-2010 09:01PM

oppenheimer1 wrote: »

The trick is to take out all your clothes and put them on. Hell I'd do it in front of the staff if they were snotty with me.

I have gone down that road, also make sure you have a jacket with deep pockets to carry your laptop charger and what ever else. I knew someone that made up his own limit gauge after getting stung €30 for a bag that wouldnt fit.

epgc3fyqirnbsx · 04-01-2010 09:10PM

I live in Mayo. Because of Ryanair and the likes, its actually cheaper, easier and faster for me to fly to the likes of London or Birmingham than it is to get a train to Dublin.

We can actually have cheaper weekends abroad than we can at home.

I couldn't care less if we're thrown in like battery hens, cheap flying rules. As does the EU.

tiernanobrien · 04-01-2010 10:22PM

o'leary is the man. I pay by credit card so but its still alot cheaper than the competition. I think you dont get charged with visa debit cards (not 100% on that) so ill just use that from now on

stovelid · 04-01-2010 10:49PM

I agree with Nipplenuts re: the additional cost of travel.

Also the appeal of Ryanair is largely (and very successfully) within a certain demographic. Not everyone, however, wants to book online, fly with the bare minimum of baggage; land miles and miles away from the destination and endure their customer service.

I bet in ten years time, when their flight needs may change, a significant number of people will be pretty pissed off with the brutally low-frilled model that they themselves have cheerleaded so vehemently for and ushered in.

Guru Maith Agut · 04-01-2010 10:52PM

Since when did

Ryanair

start sponsoring Boards.ie?

Dudess · 04-01-2010 10:55PM

hooradiation wrote: »

In before slackjawed cretins decide that they really need to post how awesome Micheal O'Leary is and how he should be running this country.

Don't forget his "no-bullsh1t style".

wixfjord · 04-01-2010 11:46PM

rarnes1 wrote: »

Sure lets go back to the day when it cost £300 to fly Dublin - London.

I hate when people constantly moan about Ryanair.

If you don't them don't fcuking use them. Simple.

Proper order. Pay inordinate prices if you want, what you see is what you get from Ryanair, if you dont like it shag off. Michael O Leary is a P.R. god, a fantastic businessman and a credit to Ireland.

Dudess · 04-01-2010 11:53PM

I hate the way people constantly use the tired line "If you don't like Ryanair, don't use it" when people criticise O'Leary for being a **** (which he is). Doesn't mean they have a problem with the service. Or who's to say they haven't boycotted Ryanair?

stovelid · 05-01-2010 12:12AM

wixfjord wrote: »

Michael O Leary is a P.R. god

At this stage, MOR could answer criticism of his business practice by lighting his farts outside Leinster House and it would probably still be hailed as "unorthodox but brutally effective PR".

People fly Ryanair because it is a business idea that satisfies a (very popular) niche. The idea that O Leary's frequently asinine outbursts make any difference to this is doubtful.

King of Kings · 05-01-2010 12:25AM

i don;t fly ryanair cos they're ****.

I take 1/2 trips abroad each year and they have never been better value.

Cheaper yes - But I'm happy to pay an extra fee to land where I actually want to go. Ryanair stick you up to 90 mins by train from where you actually want to go..hardly a great deal.

I was in Germany in December and when deciding where to go I looked at flights to several cities. There was only 1 that aer lingus and ryanair both flew too which was berlin.

For 2 adults and 1 child return ryanair was 80 euro cheaper.
Divided over 6 flights (3 out and 3 back ) that's not a huge saving...however it was cheaper but on further inspection Aerlingus actually flew at a decent time as opposed to the graveyard shift ryanair were flying at.

So in my opinion the 80 was extra was well spent.

Not to mention they're **** to fly with too.

Marvinthefish · 05-01-2010 04:14AM

That's Michael O' Leary on the right.

http://www.savagechickens.com/images/chickenmission.jpg

Joey the lips · 05-01-2010 08:31AM

Marvinthefish wrote: »

That's Michael O' Leary on the right.

http://www.savagechickens.com/images/chickenmission.jpg

Bertie on the left....

efb · 05-01-2010 08:42AM

If the total cost of the flight is less than €50 sure Ill grin bare it and prepare for a sharp landing, otherwise it's BMI or another airline. I find Aer Lingus very poor value for money and their staff disinterested and rude.

€19.90 door to door to my sisters gaff in Dec, not to shabby.

astrofool · 05-01-2010 11:10AM

Credit card "charges" should be illegal, but this should apply to all airlines, and all services.

Fratton Fred · 05-01-2010 01:16PM

The Ryanair plane I boarded on Sunday had "Bye Bye SkyEurope" written down the side. Things like that just make them look like snide bastards imho.

They also got a bollocking off the advertising standards authority in the UK for taking the piss out of eurostar. They ran a load of adverts mocking the fact that the train takes 2 hours to get from London to Paris, when they can fly you there in 45 minutes. The ASA warned them for misleading people, as they don't actually have an airport in Paris and to compare like for like you would need to factor in the w hour journey to stansted and the 1.5 hoir journey from the airport Ryanair call paris and paris itself.

monkeypants · 05-01-2010 02:19PM

I don't favour one airline over another, I just don't like flying. I enjoy
take-off, landing and any available turbulence, but the bit in the middle, the flight, just bores me. And to fly, one needs to use an airport, which I find unpleasant. Similar to a really crowded supermarket, only that you have to spend two hours there. Minimum. With ignorant security and loads of rules that you don't know and are afraid to ask about.

Ryanair do what they say on the tin. Mostly. There are some crazy charges and they can drop you seventy miles from where you want to go, but they're an improvement on the way things used to be. Everyone says that they hate them and won't fly with them again, but the passenger numbers keep growing. As has been said before on the thread, consider all the factors when buying your flight and make your choice then. That's the way it's supposed to work.

O'Leary knows that he can say anything or advertise anything and even if it's wrong and has to be removed or apologised for, it'll still be covered by the media and therefore generate more publicity. Some of the stuff that he's proposed is illegal and he knows it, yet he still brings it up because it gets him airtime. Even his apologies are barely concealed spin.

Another Brilliant Ryanair Retort

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