If you saw a fella hitting a girl, what would you do?

SV · 27-12-2009 11:02AM

TitoPuente wrote: »

Yeah, that's really weird. I worked as a doorman for about 5 years and every single time I got involved in one of these situations, the woman turned on me. So your experience is the exception, not the rule. Believe me.

I'd well believe it tbh..

There is only one instance of a girl turning on me I can recall and a number of her male friends(who soon backed off)
Girl slapped one of my friends, I called her an idiot and she slapped me then..
Quite hard too, it was no 'playful' kind of slap.
So I said to her calmly(I was sober) that if she slaps me again I'll have no worries about hitting her back, well to say she went mental is an understatement..cue lots of lads saying they're going to 'bate the head off me'

Oh women..why are ye so crazy?

Kiera · 27-12-2009 11:07AM

SV wrote: »

Oh women..why are ye so crazy?

We have to be to put up with you lot :P

garyt24 · 27-12-2009 11:12AM

sdonn wrote: »

Right, so I was out in a certain takeaway in Portmarnock this evening and t'was madness. A biggish group of people come in and have a massive argument, I'm guessing between a guy, his mate and a girlfriend with an entourage of mainly birds there too. Some terrible things were said, "you tranny whore" etc etc, men were slapped and a couple of times one particular guy tried and I think, managed (partly maybe) to belt a girl accross the head. He was completely off his rocker, pushed the two or three girls the length of the shop into us at the back at one stage. Hurling lots of abuse etc. People seemed not to want to get involed on the whole but some were held back.

I was really tempted to step in but held back because I knew the Gardaí were on the way because the not very tall and outnumbered security man had been on the phone, I was driving and stone cold sober so I suppose that helped. All three of my group were I'd say VERY close to jumping on him. I was sorely tempted to point him out to the Guards when they arrived but was terrified I'd just start another fight, this time including me.

Scary stuff anyway. Hard to sit there and watch a girl being treated like that. All concerned with sub-23yrs I'd say. Anyway question being, if you were drunk/sober would you jump in or stay back? I kind of feel I did the right thing, but then if she'd been badly hurt I'd be gutted. BTW atari option is not caring, NOT that youd deck the bastard.

(and before anyone gets all Feeky Magee on me, yes she was hot (and how!), no I don't have pics)

I would like to say that i would hit the guy straight away cause you should never hit women but it is so much easier to write what i would do rather than actually do it when it happened in frount of you. You were right not to get involved because it could have turned nasty on you and also you dont know the relationship that girl and bloke have with each other. Both of them could of turning on you...

TitoPuente · 27-12-2009 11:21AM

garyt24 wrote: »

you should never hit women

Stupid statement to be honest. Men and women are equally capable of extreme violence. If a women comes at you with a knife, for example, you have every right to knock her head off.

sdanseo · 27-12-2009 11:29AM

What was making me want to jump in was that this guy was being so violent - literally making multiple attempts to grab her, punch her, push her etc. There was about 3 of her friends in the way trying to get him off and they were all just collateral damage to him.

I also had 2 mates with me, obviously if I was on my own I would have been a lot further away from intervening.

Guards turned up in the end btw and of course they'd all dissapeared.

Borneo Fnctn · 27-12-2009 11:45AM

If it's his woman I wouldn't do anything. I saw a pair of scagheads having a screaming match on christmas eve outside the centra at the hapenny bridge. It was like Fairytale of New York. Life's too short to be helping women who don't want help.

me_right_one · 27-12-2009 12:16PM

Why is there this big desire, or apparent obligation, to help women? If it was two fellas, would this thread even have been started? Its all equality now, we're all equal. It was women themselves who wanted it this way. If a girl who is just as strong as a fella hits a fella, he has every right to hit her back.

Dragan · 27-12-2009 01:08PM

Karl Hungus wrote: »

Not something I'd get involved in tbh. Saw some fella yelling at his girlfriend one time, really threatening her and such, so I said something to him, the girl turned around and gives me an incredible earful of abuse and tells me to **** off and mind my business. Heard from others who'd intervened in similar situations and got some very violent reactions from the girls.

I thought like that for a little while after intervening between a guy and a gal. These two were screaming at each other and all of a sudden, BANG, he hit her flush, like she was a dude.

I was straight over the road and on him, pinned him down and would have been happy to wait for the cops when the girl lashed out at me. Pretty strange at the time i thought, i let your man up and the two of them went off after giving me an earful.

At the end of the day though, i don't really give a **** about their reaction, it's all about how i feel, and i can't in good conscience walk away from someone, male or female, who might need my help.

If they react badly, then **** em, i tried, it's their mess, they can clean it up.

Seachmall · 27-12-2009 01:17PM

If they got physical I'd probably step in, and by physical I mean violent, not sexual. Actually I'd probably step in if they got sexual too, either way it'll end in a bloody mess.

me_right_one wrote: »

Why is there this big desire, or apparent obligation, to help women? If it was two fellas, would this thread even have been started? Its all equality now, we're all equal. It was women themselves who wanted it this way. If a girl who is just as strong as a fella hits a fella, he has every right to hit her back.

But how many girls do you know could deck their boyfriends the same way their boyfriends could deck them? If it were two men of equal strength fighting I'd keep out, if one was clearly at a disadvantage I'd step in and have done so in the past.

super_furry · 27-12-2009 01:18PM

Stepped in once and have a nice scar to remember it by. Won't be doing it again.

Abi · 27-12-2009 01:20PM

Dragan wrote: »

If they react badly, then **** em, i tried, it's their mess, they can clean it up.

I think you're a good guy for wanting to help out, but these things rarely end well =/

Doesn't matter whether I was sober or drunk, I'd keep walking. The extent of my involvment would be calling the gardai, but I'd keep going. Think about it, what sort of people actually have full on arguments on the street or in a chipper? If they have drunk enough to the point that they are fighting in public, they aren't going to be in their most understanding, rational state. It's no wonder those who intervene get started on.

No thanks!

G-Money · 27-12-2009 01:23PM

Interesting topic. I remember seeing a similar question posed somewhere, I can't remember where. I think it was something like "If you were at a train station at night and seen a group of guys hassling a girl, would you intervene".

I have to say it's a really hard one to call. You see so many stories on the news about people intervening to tackle some scumbag and the person who tries to help ends up dead. I didn't realise either until I read this thread that the girl who's being hassled can actually turn on you if you try to help.

It's really hard to say. I can only speak from the time I was in Australia and some guy started squaring up to me as his mate led him on pretending I was saying stuff about his favourite football team. It's not nice to admit, but I had an awful sick, fearful feeling that went right through me and I was like "s***, I'm about to get into a fight". It's one of the most horrible feelings I've ever had and one I hope to avoid again. Thankfully at the time I managed to talk myself out of it (I hadn't actually said anything and was minding my own business).

It's really hard to say. I guess you'd just have to judge the situation at the time and do whatever seems right. I suspect at the very least if its getting out of control you should call the cops.

me_right_one · 27-12-2009 01:32PM

Seachmall wrote: »

But how many girls do you know could deck their boyfriends the same way their boyfriends could deck them? If it were two men of equal strength fighting I'd keep out, if one was clearly at a disadvantage I'd step in and have done so in the past.

But what if one fella was right and the other one was wrong and deserved the baetin? How would you know? What if a 6 footer was kicking the crap out of a jockey, for all you know the jockey might be a pedo who just buggered the 6 footers kids! The same goes for vaginified humans.

arybvtcw0eolkf · 27-12-2009 01:35PM

super_furry wrote: »

Stepped in once and have a nice scar to remember it by. Won't be doing it again.

Chic's dig scar's, or so its said!.

But to answer the question, I'd go along the same lines as Dragan.

Mark200 · 27-12-2009 01:35PM

If this is the restaurant/take away that I think it is... then I think a few years ago some guy got stabbed (and killed, I think) in there during a fight.

I wouldn't chance it unless the girl was getting seriously beaten, and at that stage I'd hope that the majority of people in the restaurant would defend anyone who stepped in.

Keano · 27-12-2009 01:49PM

I've seen 2 instances. First, out side of a niteclub and the guy had to protected by the bouncers as a number of lads reined blows in on him. The second, I was walking home alone and seen a guy with a girl in a head lock but I kept walking with my head down. I knew their background and it would have resulted in causing more trouble.

Seachmall · 27-12-2009 01:51PM

me_right_one wrote: »

But what if one fella was right and the other one was wrong and deserved the baetin? How would you know? What if a 6 footer was kicking the crap out of a jockey, for all you know the jockey might be a pedo who just buggered the 6 footers kids! The same goes for vaginified humans.

I assumed we were talking about the drunken fights you see outside clubs. Either way I'd step in, I think it's fair to give the jockey the benefit of the doubt or should I just assume all jockeys are paedos?

julien05 · 27-12-2009 01:59PM

a gf of mine got hopped on for no reason by a tramp, i was drunk so i tried to break it up because it looked disgusting all that hair pulling ouchie. i got a sovering imprint in my forehead for it which was funny and cute because it didnt hurt but this yokes male friends were all there telling me 'i wouldnt let her get away with that' and 'i wouldnt put up with that' luckily i smelt the cocksucking rats a mile away and didnt do anything.

Capt'n Midnight · 27-12-2009 02:10PM

Seachmall wrote: »

should I just assume all jockeys are paedos?

Well they ride three year olds for a living ....

super_furry · 27-12-2009 02:11PM

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

Well they ride three year olds for a living ....

The term LOL is overused, but that just made me snort with laughter. Good show sir.

bonerm · 27-12-2009 02:41PM

Wouldn't do a thing tbh. Most of these "ladies" are just as big a scumbag as the fellas who are knocking the **** out of them. From my own experience you're generally met with a "mind yer own fcuking business" (from the girl that is!) if you try get involved.

White trash doesn't exist only in america ya know. Just let them get on with it I say. Within an hour alls well again and they'll be holed up somewhere rutting like pigs and producing another generation of hungry mouths for our Welfare State to feed.

callaway92 · 27-12-2009 02:59PM

Flying Armbar him

argosy2006 · 27-12-2009 03:12PM

JUST SHOUT AT TOP OF YOUR VOICE,
OMG DID YOU SEE THE NEWS ,AND WALK OFF QUICKLY
that will get em thinking lol

opinion guy · 27-12-2009 03:13PM

sdonn wrote: »

Right, so I was out in a certain takeaway in Portmarnock this evening and t'was madness. A biggish group of people come in and have a massive argument, I'm guessing between a guy, his mate and a girlfriend with an entourage of mainly birds there too. Some terrible things were said, "you tranny whore" etc etc, men were slapped and a couple of times one particular guy tried and I think, managed (partly maybe) to belt a girl accross the head. He was completely off his rocker, pushed the two or three girls the length of the shop into us at the back at one stage. Hurling lots of abuse etc. People seemed not to want to get involed on the whole but some were held back.

I was really tempted to step in but held back because I knew the Gardaí were on the way because the not very tall and outnumbered security man had been on the phone, I was driving and stone cold sober so I suppose that helped. All three of my group were I'd say VERY close to jumping on him. I was sorely tempted to point him out to the Guards when they arrived but was terrified I'd just start another fight, this time including me.

Scary stuff anyway. Hard to sit there and watch a girl being treated like that. All concerned with sub-23yrs I'd say. Anyway question being, if you were drunk/sober would you jump in or stay back? I kind of feel I did the right thing, but then if she'd been badly hurt I'd be gutted. BTW atari option is not caring, NOT that youd deck the bastard.

(and before anyone gets all Feeky Magee on me, yes she was hot (and how!), no I don't have pics)

OP you did the right thing. From the sounds of it you guys intervening would only have escalated things and the guards were already on their way.

Anytime this topic comes up I hear stories of the guy who intervenes gettting attacked by both parties so no I wouldn't intervene but I would call the cops.

fintonie · 27-12-2009 06:12PM

well I went out to check this out and found a similar situation,

I bitch slapped the guy and grabbed your ones tits, big mistake

were on the Jeremy kyle show on wednesday shes prigment:eek:

shnethb · 27-12-2009 06:38PM

Saw a fella argue and hit his girlfriend a belter across the face last week. Called the cops and confronted him, He became very meek very quickly, Cops took him away

fizzynicenice · 27-12-2009 06:45PM

knee him in the back

Buceph · 27-12-2009 06:59PM

I was walking down O'Connell St. after a late bar a few years ago. I saw one girl partly stumbling and crawling trying to get away from people, all girls. They caught her and pushed her to the ground and started belting her, kicking her and smacking her. I was in there like a shot and didn't think about it. I put myself between them and her and tried to keep them back. I'm a fairly big guy and the girls stopped, presumably because they realised I wouldn't go down as easily as this tiny girl they were laying into. The girl on the floor got up, thanked me and ran off.

I didn't think about the danger to myself, but I'm 100% glad that I did it. The girl on the ground could easily have ended up with serious head injuries, broken ribs or worse. All my friends were panicking. (Jaysus, we're in Dublin anything could have happened!) But I know I did the right thing. If there are two people scrapping away, let them at it, or even a group, let them at it. But these people had her on the ground and she could do nothing back to them. I kept yelling at them that they'd made their point, and she gets the message.

To be honest, I don't know what I'd do if I encountered that again, but I'm happy with my reaction from when it did happen. Couldn't bare to think what I'd be like if I heard someone ended up brain damaged or even dead.

walshb · 27-12-2009 07:11PM

Nobody likes to see anyone assaulted unnecessarily and a woman being hit by a man is even more appalling, however, it is usually a domestic and interfering will see you get a clatter off the bloke and the ****ing girl. If it's a random bloke and a random girl, then yes, I would intervene, but when it's a domestic, you have to think first.

ejmaztec · 27-12-2009 07:26PM

There should be an option for stealing the woman's purse and running away.:(

If you saw a fella hitting a girl, what would you do?

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