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Are British people foreigners?

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  • #32
    Ponster
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,912 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ponster


    mikemac wrote: »
    I don't frequent AH that often.
    If this "chesnut" is incorrect can you please correct me?

    Try a search.


  • #33
    mikemac
    Closed Accounts Posts: 19,967 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    I saw a thread and contributed to it

    If this thread was a duplicate then that's on the OP, not me


  • #34
    lugha
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,235 ✭✭✭lugha


    It's kinda about language isn't it? Foreigners are folk who don't speak English as a first language.


  • #35
    Pushtrak
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,640 ✭✭✭Pushtrak


    lugha wrote: »
    It's kinda about language isn't it? Foreigners are folk who don't speak English as a first language.
    Not according to any definition I have ever come across.


  • #36
    greendom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,382 ✭✭✭✭greendom


    lugha wrote: »
    It's kinda about language isn't it? Foreigners are folk who don't speak English as a first language.

    Well that's not right I can think of many countries where they speak more than one language and even in Ireland you will find people who consider gaeilge is their first language


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  • #37
    Biggins
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Adam Selene wrote: »
    Would you consider people from the UK to be foreigners?

    They are foreign to me till they cross our borders.
    Then they are only strangers till I get to know them.


  • #38
    AARRRGH
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,382 ✭✭✭✭AARRRGH


    Adam Selene wrote: »
    But we are so similar. Foreign implies there is a huge difference.

    I mean, we speak the same language, follow the same sports etc.

    Its a philosophical question, not a literal one

    We're not that similar.

    If you remove the shared language and the few sports we both like, we're quite different.

    If you don't believe me go spend a night in an English pub.

    We have more in common with the Spaniards than the Brits.


  • #39
    AARRRGH
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,382 ✭✭✭✭AARRRGH


    Biggins wrote: »
    They are foreign to me till they cross our borders.
    Then they are only strangers till I get to know them.

    *Pukes*


  • #40
    lugha
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,235 ✭✭✭lugha


    Pushtrak wrote: »
    Not according to any definition I have ever come across.
    No, not by definition but by popular usage. If you hear folk praising the cultural diversity brought about by our foreign guests, or something, the typically will never be talking about visitors from the US, UK or even Aus land.


  • #41
    Biggins
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    AARRRGH wrote: »
    *Pukes*
    ....and my job is done. :D


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  • #42
    OPENROAD
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,692 ✭✭✭✭OPENROAD


    AARRRGH wrote: »
    If you don't believe me go spend a night in an English pub.

    What is the difference?


  • #43
    mikemac
    Closed Accounts Posts: 19,967 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    AARRRGH wrote: »
    We have more in common with the Spaniards than the Brits.

    Loud and excitable?
    Can you expand on this? I'm interested to learn more


  • #44
    lugha
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,235 ✭✭✭lugha


    greendom wrote: »
    Well that's not right I can think of many countries where they speak more than one language ....
    but not many where English is the first.
    greendom wrote: »
    ... and even in Ireland you will find people who consider gaeilge is their first language
    Yeah, well that lot are always causing bother.


  • #45
    mikemac
    Closed Accounts Posts: 19,967 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    Well every lawyer or anyone had to sit an exam on the Constitution will be part of "that lot"
    And up to recently, every garda too


  • #46
    greendom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,382 ✭✭✭✭greendom


    lugha wrote: »
    but not many where English is the first.


    .

    Canada, South Africa and Australia are 3 pretty big ones I can think of


  • #47
    lugha
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,235 ✭✭✭lugha


    AARRRGH wrote: »
    We're not that similar.
    If you remove the shared language and the few sports we both like, we're quite different.
    You're kidding! :eek: Language and sport only? How about music, food, celebrities, TV programs, pretty much any aspect of popular culture you can think of. We're like chalk and more chalk.


  • #48
    c4cat
    Closed Accounts Posts: 518 ✭✭✭c4cat


    Adam Selene wrote: »
    Would you consider people from the UK to be foreigners?

    Yep, they don't know what a hot press is and if you ask them what yoke do they drive they have'nt a clue


  • #49
    lugha
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,235 ✭✭✭lugha


    greendom wrote: »
    Canada, South Africa and Australia are 3 pretty big ones I can think of
    Yeah but you wouldn't tend to refer to them as foreigners. You would say stuff like "bloody Canadians coming over here taking our women" and so on. If I hear someone talking/ranting about foreigners, I immediately think mainland Europe, Africa or Asia, and I usually think right.


  • #50
    Shacklebolt
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,418 ✭✭✭Shacklebolt


    greendom wrote: »
    Canada, South Africa and Australia are 3 pretty big ones I can think of

    No to mention large numbers of people in Hong Kong, Singapore, India, and several areas of East Africa.


  • #51
    greendom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,382 ✭✭✭✭greendom


    lugha wrote: »
    Yeah but you wouldn't tend to refer to them as foreigners. You would say stuff like "bloody Canadians coming over here taking our women" and so on. If I hear someone talking/ranting about foreigners, I immediately think mainland Europe, Africa or Asia, and I usually think right.

    Well you're partially right


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  • #52
    entropi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,731 ✭✭✭✭entropi


    Erm...yeah they are from another country, why would they not be?


  • #53
    Shacklebolt
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,418 ✭✭✭Shacklebolt


    lugha wrote: »
    Yeah but you wouldn't tend to refer to them as foreigners. You would say stuff like "bloody Canadians coming over here taking our women" and so on. If I hear someone talking/ranting about foreigners, I immediately think mainland Europe, Africa or Asia, and I usually think right.

    Well thats just due to selective xenophobia by Irish people not any change in the meaning of the word.


  • #54
    Teclo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 496 ✭✭Teclo


    They're only foreign if their names don't begin with O or Mac.


  • #55
    lugha
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,235 ✭✭✭lugha


    Shacklebolt wrote: »
    Well thats just due to selective xenophobia by Irish people not any change in the meaning of the word.
    Perhaps, but words get, and over time change, their meaning depending on how people use them. If this is the way Irish people use the word then in Ireland, that is what the word means. No?


  • #56
    mike65
    Closed Accounts Posts: 88,968 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Which British people are being refered to here? The British ones alone or the (ahem,) Irish ones as well?


  • #57
    G_R
    Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 5,028 Mod ✭✭✭✭G_R


    of course they are.

    as are people from north of the border. They are not from the Republic, therefore, they are foreigners.

    I dont see the confusion


  • #58
    Kurtosis
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,881 ✭✭✭Kurtosis


    Adam Selene wrote: »
    Its a philosophical question, not a literal one

    Why have this 7 posts into the thread?

    I read title, I read OP, then I vote. Don't go gerrymandering around with the referendum after I've left the polling station!


  • #59
    Shacklebolt
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,418 ✭✭✭Shacklebolt


    dannym08 wrote: »
    of course they are.

    as are people from north of the border. They are not from the Republic, therefore, they are foreigners.

    I dont see the confusion

    Heres where I'd disagree. Especially seeing as they are completely entitled to irish citizenship.


  • #60
    Crann na Beatha
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,763 ✭✭✭✭Crann na Beatha


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  • #61
    G_R
    Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 5,028 Mod ✭✭✭✭G_R


    Iolar wrote: »
    this is the inequality why is it southern Irish cant use the same method to claim British citizenship from the GFA

    Cos no one wants it:confused:


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