Australia-A word of warning.

Wompa1 · 22-12-2009 02:17PM

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

I too have worked in the states and Canada and i can tell you this, ive worked in everything from washing dishes to selling beer, Aus is by far the hardest Job market i have ever encounted. In the states and Canada if they hear a Irish accent they are curious and you more or less have the Job, here in Aus if they hear the Irish accent i would say 30% of the time they hang up the phone and thats no lie.

Wouldn't blame them for hanging up in fairness. Sure keep on keepin on my friend. You'll find something. I've heard Adelaide is good for work alright, have you tried other places?

the_syco · 22-12-2009 02:19PM

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

things are very bad here at the moment for traditional backpacker employment

Um... what is this "traditional backpacker employment"? Some cushy number that pays well, and don't mind if you come in next morning with a hangover? Pffft.

adamski8 · 22-12-2009 02:20PM

HEY that was defo more than one word!

ejmaztec · 22-12-2009 02:21PM

JONJO THE MISERABLE wrote: »

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JONJO THE MISER · 22-12-2009 02:22PM

Wompa1 wrote: »

Wouldn't blame them for hanging up in fairness. Sure keep on keepin on my friend. You'll find something. I've heard Adelaide is good for work alright, have you tried other places?

Yeah i Might try Adeladie, and by the way for the rest of the posters im not in sydney or melbourne and i dont hang out in Irish pubs wearing a Gaa Jersey, in fact where i am ive only met about 6 Irish people in the last 2 months.

conky_05 · 22-12-2009 02:25PM

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

I know what your saying but there are lots of people over here now at the moment who are between 28 and 35 and they have no parents to fall back on.

is the age limit for a working holiday visa not 30 years old ?

JONJO THE MISER · 22-12-2009 02:26PM

the_syco wrote: »

Um... what is this "traditional backpacker employment"? Some cushy number that pays well, and don't mind if you come in next morning with a hangover? Pffft.

I wish, i have no qualifcatons and have just mostly done factory and other such manual work, so i think you should not make assumptions about all backpackers, plus the fact is im not from a middle class background, working class and i dont have parents to fall back on so lay off a little.

opinion guy · 22-12-2009 02:26PM

Deleted User wrote: »

He says it's the best place he's travelled to and he lived in California for a while.

Not California ?!?!?!?! The land of milk and honey ??? Hmmm big difference between say Bel Air and South Central LA you know.

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

I too have worked in the states and Canada and i can tell you this, ive worked in everything from washing dishes to selling beer, Aus is by far the hardest Job market i have ever encounted. In the states and Canada if they hear a Irish accent they are curious and you more or less have the Job, here in Aus if they hear the Irish accent i would say 30% of the time they hang up the phone and thats no lie.

News just in: Australians don't like foreigners......

In fairness thou - thanks for the warning!

Wompa1 · 22-12-2009 02:29PM

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

Yeah i Might try Adeladie, and by the way for the rest of the posters im not in sydney or melbourne and i dont hang out in Irish pubs wearing a Gaa Jersey, in fact where i am ive only met about 6 Irish people in the last 2 months.

Congrats, you bucked the trend. Would you consider going somewhere else? Like Singapore?

22-12-2009 02:31PM

opinion guy wrote: »

Not California ?!?!?!?! The land of milk and honey ??? Hmmm big difference between say Bel Air and South Central LA you know.

What the fuks up your gee?

I just said he lived in California as a comparison to show he's lived a few places around the world.

Plank.

the_syco · 22-12-2009 02:36PM

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

things are very bad here at the moment for traditional backpacker employment.

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

so i think you should not make assumptions about all backpackers

I made no assumptions. But the way you talk of "traditional backpacker employment", you make it sound like it should be an easy thing to get. I never went to Oz, never had the moeny or the want to fly over there, so please tell me what theis "traditional backpacker employment" is?

22-12-2009 02:38PM

the_syco wrote: »

I made no assumptions. But the way you talk of "traditional backpacker employment", you make it sound like it should be an easy thing to get. I never went to Oz, never had the moeny or the want to fly over there, so please tell me what theis "traditional backpacker employment" is?

Never been backpacking but I presume bar work, restaurant work, working in resorts etc.

markok84 · 22-12-2009 02:46PM

I've never been to Australia, and I have no desire to go.

That's pretty much all I wanted to say, I'm pretty hammered so I'll leave ye to it.

opinion guy · 22-12-2009 02:49PM

Deleted User wrote: »

What the fuks up your gee?

I just said he lived in California as a comparison to show he's lived a few places around the world.

Plank.

No you said he's ived lots of places - he's EVEN lived in California like that was supposed to be the best place in the world. Not saying it isn't - in fact its pretty awesome, but not all of it. But saying you lived in California and it was X, Y or Z is akin to saying you lived in Europe and it was X, Y, or Z. Europe and California are big places!!!

Spanner.

listermint · 22-12-2009 02:50PM

Meh

went there, didnt like it vastly came home.

Australian males do have a major ego trip thing going on.

From Perth To Cairn Brisbane To Adelaide . Pretty much majority attitude.

Liked seeing the country but would NEVER live there, not my bag.

And the whole "abbo" thing, fierce social problem pretty much caused by
the white invasion from the west.

22-12-2009 02:59PM

opinion guy wrote: »

No you said he's ived lots of places - he's EVEN lived in California like that was supposed to be the best place in the world. Not saying it isn't - in fact its pretty awesome, but not all of it. But saying you lived in California and it was X, Y or Z is akin to saying you lived in Europe and it was X, Y, or Z. Europe and California are big places!!!

Spanner.

I still don't see any problem with what I said.. I don't see why you should either.

Mossy Monk · 22-12-2009 03:14PM

I know 9 people out there at the moment, 8 are employed. The jobs are there if you are willing to do the **** work.

Patricide · 22-12-2009 03:21PM

Mossy Monk wrote: »

I know 9 people out there at the moment, 8 are employed. The jobs are there if you are willing to do the **** work.

Well, the **** work is better than no work right?

steps_3314 · 22-12-2009 03:23PM

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

Surely for a backpacker a tent is home

class post

dr.bollocko · 22-12-2009 03:45PM

Deleted User wrote: »

What the fuks up your gee?

I just said he lived in California as a comparison to show he's lived a few places around the world.

Plank.

opinion guy wrote: »

No you said he's ived lots of places - he's EVEN lived in California like that was supposed to be the best place in the world. Not saying it isn't - in fact its pretty awesome, but not all of it. But saying you lived in California and it was X, Y or Z is akin to saying you lived in Europe and it was X, Y, or Z. Europe and California are big places!!!

Spanner.

Quit it

InKonspikuou2 · 22-12-2009 04:23PM

I love the i'm traveling around the world part of a trip to Australia. No you are traveling half way around the world and coming back the same way.

I hated Australia. I prefer poorer countries. Better craic.

22-12-2009 04:37PM

InKonspikuou2 wrote: »

I hated Australia. I prefer poorer countries. Better craic.

That's my plan.. Save for the next 12 months, Do Tefl, Land in Thailand/Laos/Vietnam for six months and then teach English in South Korea.

Jumpy · 22-12-2009 04:48PM

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

Currently in Aus and would just like to give some advice to people who are thinking of coming out here on a 1 or 2 year visa, my advice is dont bother, im currently staying in a hostel and the place is inundated with people/backpackers looking for work, many people including myself have been looking for months for work and ive only about 10 days work in 2 months, many other backpackers i have spoken to have told me of the same problems. Firstly Aus employers do not even want to hear about you if your a backpacker and a couple of them have told me this, the only work going for backpackers is back breaking fruit picking and even that is hard to get with the numbers applying, as i said in the past few weeks ive met countless backpackers who have had to go home after only a few months here because there is no work, that and Aus is defo not what its made out to be, sure there are some lovely people but they is a underline racism here that is hard to believe even against Irish people. The macho culture feeds into this here in Aus and you see this macho attuidude from common thugs to peole in power.
I think Aus has lost the run of itself a bit like Ireland did during the celtic tiger, many backpackers will not have fond memories of Aus and i think this will affect tourism here in future years.
I personally know of 3 backpackers who right now are homeless, living in a tent and who are too proud or are unable to ask for help for there parents, i expect there are a lot of Irish backpackers sleeping rough out here going by the grapevine and many others have booked flights home.
Its very simple really where would people rather be sleeping rough at the other side of the world or back in Ireland where at least you can get the dole.
Sad but true folks, sad but true and a cauntionary tale.

You have one of the worst attitudes I have ever seen as a backpacker.

I invite everyone who cares to delve back through his posts about Australia and you might see why Jonjo is now having issues.

Attitude is king when you are travelling. Aussies are blunt, appreciate forward honesty and do not tolerate bull****. Dont give it to them and you will be fine.

We like the Irish. They are our favourites, but if you act the knob you will treated poorly.

Whispered · 22-12-2009 04:50PM

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

things are very bad here at the moment for traditional backpacker employment. .

that must mean two of my friends are very lucky. They got bar work just a few days after they started looking.

ejmaztec · 22-12-2009 04:51PM

InKonspikuou2 wrote: »

I love the i'm traveling around the world part of a trip to Australia. No you are traveling half way around the world and coming back the same way.

I hated Australia. I prefer poorer countries. Better craic.

Me too. that's why I'm living here as well.:(

orourkeda · 22-12-2009 04:52PM

Bandit12 wrote: »

Pull your socks up and stop moaning. Went to NY in the early 90's myself with nowt and scraped and scrathed for a job for months until i got one. No one said life was going to be easy. Man up ffs.

Arent we the hard man?

Jumpy · 22-12-2009 04:54PM

opinion guy wrote: »

News just in: Australians don't like foreigners......

We are country made up of foreigners!

and2 · 22-12-2009 05:17PM

Was in OZ for a year. Tough getting a job, but always something if your desperate enough. I did telesales, I'd rather pick fruit. Spent some times on sites.. spent a week sweeping floors in a building being renovated.. I layed turf, put up marquees.. loads of sh1t jobs, but it payed my way round the country and I had the best year of my life.. chin up lad :pac:

Xavi6 · 22-12-2009 05:26PM

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

Currently in Aus and would just like to give some advice to people who are thinking of coming out here on a 1 or 2 year visa, my advice is dont bother, im currently staying in a hostel and the place is inundated with people/backpackers looking for work, many people including myself have been looking for months for work and ive only about 10 days work in 2 months, many other backpackers i have spoken to have told me of the same problems.

How hard are they/you trying? Honestly?

I'm sure there's still enough cash for a few scoops down the local Irish pub.

Firstly Aus employers do not even want to hear about you if your a backpacker and a couple of them have told me this,

Mistake number 1 - admitting you're a backpacker. Lie. Say you're there for a year initially with the intention of getting a second year visa. The quit after four months because 'your circumstances have changed.' Happy days.

the only work going for backpackers is back breaking fruit picking and even that is hard to get with the numbers applying, as i said in the past few weeks ive met countless backpackers who have had to go home after only a few months here because there is no work,

I know people who have strolled into good jobs with the likes of Telstra. Nice hours, decent wage. Also supermarkets and stores like IGA and Target will take you on handy, if you aren't too proud for that sort of thing of course.

A mate of mine got temping work in a couple of offices as well.

I personally know of 3 backpackers who right now are homeless, living in a tent and who are too proud or are unable to ask for help for there parents, i expect there are a lot of Irish backpackers sleeping rough out here going by the grapevine and many others have booked flights home.
Its very simple really where would people rather be sleeping rough at the other side of the world or back in Ireland where at least you can get the dole.
Sad but true folks, sad but true and a cauntionary tale.

That's an extreme and very rare case.

I really don't think they can be trying too hard for a job because there's plenty of jobs out there if you are willing.

CrazyRabbit · 22-12-2009 05:50PM

Odd...I was at that "Working Abroad" expo in the RDS in September and they were crying out for skilled workers in Australia.

I suspect you couldn't find a job because you lack any required skills. Looking for manual labor type jobs is going to be tough in this economic climate as there will be so many people applying.

If you were a qualified teacher, nurse, doctor etc, they would have been throwing job offers at you as they have a shortage of people with those skills (+ others)

My advice....you should have gained some better qualifications before heading off to Australia.

Australia-A word of warning.

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