Australia-A word of warning.

JONJO THE MISER

Currently in Aus and would just like to give some advice to people who are thinking of coming out here on a 1 or 2 year visa, my advice is dont bother, im currently staying in a hostel and the place is inundated with people/backpackers looking for work, many people including myself have been looking for months for work and ive only about 10 days work in 2 months, many other backpackers i have spoken to have told me of the same problems. Firstly Aus employers do not even want to hear about you if your a backpacker and a couple of them have told me this, the only work going for backpackers is back breaking fruit picking and even that is hard to get with the numbers applying, as i said in the past few weeks ive met countless backpackers who have had to go home after only a few months here because there is no work, that and Aus is defo not what its made out to be, sure there are some lovely people but they is a underline racism here that is hard to believe even against Irish people. The macho culture feeds into this here in Aus and you see this macho attuidude from common thugs to peole in power.
I think Aus has lost the run of itself a bit like Ireland did during the celtic tiger, many backpackers will not have fond memories of Aus and i think this will affect tourism here in future years.
I personally know of 3 backpackers who right now are homeless, living in a tent and who are too proud or are unable to ask for help for there parents, i expect there are a lot of Irish backpackers sleeping rough out here going by the grapevine and many others have booked flights home.
Its very simple really where would people rather be sleeping rough at the other side of the world or back in Ireland where at least you can get the dole.
Sad but true folks, sad but true and a cauntionary tale.

amacachi

Yeah right, looks like someone is afraid of a little more competition.

Wompa1

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

Currently in Aus and would just like to give some advice to people who are thinking of coming out here on a 1 or 2 year visa, my advice is dont bother, im currently staying in a hostel and the place is inundated with people/backpackers looking for work, many people including myself have been looking for months for work and ive only about 10 days work in 2 months, many other backpackers i have spoken to have told me of the same problems. Firstly Aus employers do not even want to hear about you if your a backpacker and a couple of them have told me this, the only work going for backpackers is back breaking fruit picking and even that is hard to get with the numbers applying, as i said in the past few weeks ive met countless backpackers who have had to go home after only a few months here because there is no work, that and Aus is defo not what its made out to be, sure there are some lovely people but they is a underline racism here that is hard to believe even against Irish people. The macho culture feeds into this here in Aus and you see this macho attuidude from common thugs to peole in power.
I think Aus has lost the run of itself a bit like Ireland did during the celtic tiger, many backpackers will not have fond memories of Aus and i think this will affect tourism here in future years.
I personally know of 3 backpackers who right now are homeless, living in a tent and who are too proud or are unable to ask for help for there parents, i expect there are a lot of Irish backpackers sleeping rough out here going by the grapevine and many others have booked flights home.
Its very simple really where would people rather be sleeping rough at the other side of the world or back in Ireland where at least you can get the dole.
Sad but true folks, sad but true and a cauntionary tale.

HA HA HA HA HA HA AH HA....Love it, always kind of resented the drones of Irish that go over there back packing and then come back and don't shut up about how great it was. Easy to do when you've got parents to fall back on

ScumLord

At least it's not raining.

judas101

my friends are out there doing great.

engineering jobs the lot of them.

Cookie_Monster

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

I personally know of 3 backpackers who right now are homeless, living in a tent

Surely for a backpacker a tent is home

orourkeda

I never could understand the attraction.

DUBACC

What a load of rubbish. I remember doing that year's visa thing myself - it's a challenge, not a holiday! You gain more out of it if you put yourself in these situations and not come screaming back to mammy if it starts getting difficult!

I saw so many over there who just saw it as a chance to get pi**ed for the year - to**ers!!!!

JONJO THE MISER

Wompa1 wrote: »

HA HA HA HA HA HA AH HA....Love it, always kind of resented the drones of Irish that go over there back packing and then come back and don't shut up about how great it was. Easy to do when you've got parents to fall back on

I know what your saying but there are lots of people over here now at the moment who are between 28 and 35 and they have no parents to fall back on.

El Weirdo

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

Currently in Aus and would just like to give some advice to people who are thinking of coming out here on a 1 or 2 year visa, my advice is dont bother, im currently staying in a hostel and the place is inundated with people/backpackers looking for work, many people including myself have been looking for months for work and ive only about 10 days work in 2 months, many other backpackers i have spoken to have told me of the same problems. Firstly Aus employers do not even want to hear about you if your a backpacker and a couple of them have told me this, the only work going for backpackers is back breaking fruit picking and even that is hard to get with the numbers applying, as i said in the past few weeks ive met countless backpackers who have had to go home after only a few months here because there is no work, that and Aus is defo not what its made out to be, sure there are some lovely people but they is a underline racism here that is hard to believe even against Irish people. The macho culture feeds into this here in Aus and you see this macho attuidude from common thugs to peole in power.
I think Aus has lost the run of itself a bit like Ireland did during the celtic tiger, many backpackers will not have fond memories of Aus and i think this will affect tourism here in future years.
I personally know of 3 backpackers who right now are homeless, living in a tent and who are too proud or are unable to ask for help for there parents, i expect there are a lot of Irish backpackers sleeping rough out here going by the grapevine and many others have booked flights home.
Its very simple really where would people rather be sleeping rough at the other side of the world or back in Ireland where at least you can get the dole.
Sad but true folks, sad but true and a cauntionary tale.

Well, if your posts are anything to go by, I think that your CV may need tidying up a little.

JONJO THE MISER

DUBACC wrote: »

What a load of rubbish. I remember doing that year's visa thing myself - it's a challenge, not a holiday! You gain more out of it if you put yourself in these situations and not come screaming back to mammy if it starts getting difficult!

I saw so many over there who just saw it as a chance to get pi**ed for the year - to**ers!!!!

Yeah okay and when were you there? things are very bad here at the moment for traditional backpacker employment. If you cant get a Job what can you do buddy and when you have no money theres only one option and thats return home.

Wompa1

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

I know what your saying but there are lots of people over here now at the moment who are between 28 and 35 and they have no parents to fall back on.

Why not take a menial job for now and in the mean time look for a qualified position? I have a few friends over there, one spent the entire year picking fruit. A guy I use to work with said the job market over there is great because young Australian guys don't want to work, they just bum around all day.

Then again another friends sister said alot of employers don't like the Irish over there due to the likeliness of them coming in drunk or hungover. She was a nurse though so it would be pretty unacceptable I'd imagine!

Wurly

Why don't you just move location? I found it hard to get work in Brisbane so I moved to Surfers Paradise and got work no problem. Same with Melbourne.

Re fruit picking - it's not all back breaking. One of my jobs was packing pumpkins.. That's not back breaking. And I had the best laugh in the working hostel. We had to travel around a bit to find the work but we got it in the end.

orourkeda

DUBACC wrote: »

What a load of rubbish. I remember doing that year's visa thing myself - it's a challenge, not a holiday! You gain more out of it if you put yourself in these situations and not come screaming back to mammy if it starts getting difficult!

I saw so many over there who just saw it as a chance to get pi**ed for the year - to**ers!!!!

So you think travelling half way around the world to become unemployed with no friends or family around is a good idea?

Bandit12

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

Currently in Aus and would just like to give some advice to people who are thinking of coming out here on a 1 or 2 year visa, my advice is dont bother, im currently staying in a hostel and the place is inundated with people/backpackers looking for work, many people including myself have been looking for months for work and ive only about 10 days work in 2 months, many other backpackers i have spoken to have told me of the same problems. Firstly Aus employers do not even want to hear about you if your a backpacker and a couple of them have told me this, the only work going for backpackers is back breaking fruit picking and even that is hard to get with the numbers applying, as i said in the past few weeks ive met countless backpackers who have had to go home after only a few months here because there is no work, that and Aus is defo not what its made out to be, sure there are some lovely people but they is a underline racism here that is hard to believe even against Irish people. The macho culture feeds into this here in Aus and you see this macho attuidude from common thugs to peole in power.
I think Aus has lost the run of itself a bit like Ireland did during the celtic tiger, many backpackers will not have fond memories of Aus and i think this will affect tourism here in future years.
I personally know of 3 backpackers who right now are homeless, living in a tent and who are too proud or are unable to ask for help for there parents, i expect there are a lot of Irish backpackers sleeping rough out here going by the grapevine and many others have booked flights home.
Its very simple really where would people rather be sleeping rough at the other side of the world or back in Ireland where at least you can get the dole.
Sad but true folks, sad but true and a cauntionary tale.

Pull your socks up and stop moaning. Went to NY in the early 90's myself with nowt and scraped and scrathed for a job for months until i got one. No one said life was going to be easy. Man up ffs.

Afraid I've heard the same story from my 29 year old brother..

He went there for a two month holiday during the summer without the intention of working.. But he heard alot of stories similar to this in the hostels he stayed in. He said it was very expensive to see Oz properly and two months was as long as he'd have stayed even if his return flight was later. He's been around the world ten times and said Oz was his least favourite trip. He's back living and working in America now and loves it.

On the other hand, I've a 31 year old brother in Melbourne for the last 4/5 years and he loves it there. He's got a very good engineering job, has just bought a nice bmw and is looking at buying a house soon. He says it's the best place he's travelled to and he lived in California for a while.


I think Oz depends on circumstances.. Good job and you'll get on great. No job/Fruit picking and it's not so good.

slipss

Just want to say, got back from a year in Australia 4 months ago, loved it, thought the people were sound out, had a great laugh with the ozzies and the other backpackers both, didn't stroll into a job but the works there to be found if you put in the effort, worked in shops, as a chef (complete blag job on my part, I'd burn cornflakes but just learned on the fly), and did the "back breaking" fruit picking work for 3 months (if you've done nothing all your life but sit in an office and watch telly or sit in the pub on your off time it'll probably be very tough for you, if you live any kind of an active lifestyle you won't find it particuarly hard work. I really enjoyed the work.)

Weather was great obviously, the wildlife and environment outside of the cities is breathtaking and the nightlife in most cities put's anywhere in Ireland to shame (not hard I know). The miser obviously didn't like it, most people have a great time. I'd recomend it to anyone, just don't expect the locals to carry you round in a litter along thier streets paved with gold while beautiful bikini clad supermodels heave bundles of dollars at you and you'll probably have a class time.

TheZohanS

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

Yeah okay and when were you there? things are very bad here at the moment for traditional backpacker employment. If you cant get a Job what can you do buddy and when you have no money theres only one option and thats return home.

I feel your pain.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWg2vLEyRZc

ScumLord

Why don't you just scounge off the state like a normal foreigner?

Don't they have free houses and Mercs for their foreigners? What kind of a backward hole won't even give you the dole?

JONJO THE MISER

Bandit12 wrote: »

Pull your socks up and stop moaning. Went to NY in the early 90's myself with nowt and scraped and scrathed for a job for months until i got one. No one said life was going to be easy. Man up ffs.

I dont think you understand the competition over here and the fact that most employers will not hire a backpacker because they can only be hired for 6 momths. I bet thats not how it was in the states now is it?

DUBACC

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

Yeah okay and when were you there? things are very bad here at the moment for traditional backpacker employment. If you cant get a Job what can you do buddy and when you have no money theres only one option and thats return home.

I was there in 94 - hardly a celtic tiger in sight. Jobs were hard to come by everywhere! However, we got a few menial jobs and worked hard. I always maintained that it helps you grow up when plonked in a situation like that. I do agree that if you cant get anything at all (after exhausting EVERY avenue, then sure, head home).

DUBACC

orourkeda wrote: »

So you think travelling half way around the world to become unemployed with no friends or family around is a good idea?

You're missing the point. Why travel all that way if you are not willing/able to put up with a bit of hardship?

baalthor

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

Its very simple really where would people rather be sleeping rough at the other side of the world or back in Ireland .

Would prefer to sleep rough in a warm sunny country - it's gonna be minus 8 here tonight.

Maybe you should start a poll ?

DUBACC

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

I dont think you understand the competition over here and the fact that most employers will not hire a backpacker because they can only be hired for 6 momths. I bet thats not how it was in the states now is it?

Wow - competition? Who'd have thought! :rolleyes:

L_Mn

I went to Australia for a year, just home in fact and had the best time of my life. If you look hard enough and look like you really want a job you will get one. I think alot of irish that go over there think that its all about sitting in a pub in the sun all day and every night..if thats what you wanna do then fine but make sure you bring a lot of money with you.
Those who land in the likes of Sydney and head straight for Bondi are kidding themselves..go somewhere else. The likes of Perth, Darwin and Adelaide have plenty of work for people but most Irish dont want to move out of the Melbourne/Sydney irish bubble!

Owen

Australians are just sh*t sick of the grief they get from certain groups of Irish. I was in Perth in April for a wedding, and got chatting to an Irish guy at the wedding who owns an Irish bar. He said the only trouble he ever gets is frmo backpackers wearing GAA jerseys, getting rat arsed drunk, and starting fights over nothing. It was his opinion (not mine) that this is the image that's being protrayed of backpackers that's causing the Irish rep to go down over there.

slipss

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

I dont think you understand the competition over here and the fact that most employers will not hire a backpacker because they can only be hired for 6 momths. I bet thats not how it was in the states now is it?

What kind of jobs are you looking for? If you're holding out to be taken on as Juniour vice president of HyperGlobalMeganet then you're obviously gonna be waiting a long time, Australian citizens always hold that post. Pull up your sleaves and pick a few apples, or clean up in a resturaunt, or lug crap round a site for a few weeks while looking for something better for god sake. I gutted chickens and sorted thier feet into grades for 3 weeks when I was broke and couldn't get anything.

AnonoBoy

When you go in for an interview call everyone Bruce, open a bottle of beer with your teeth and go on about the lovely Sheila working in reception. They'll never know you're not an Aussie.

peepeep

You can't be that hard up if you could afford to fly halfway across the world. If you can't find work, then you are just like millions of other people around the world... the difference with you is that the majority of people aren't on holiday like you are. Get over yourself and stop whinging!

JONJO THE MISER

DUBACC wrote: »

I was there in 94 - hardly a celtic tiger in sight. Jobs were hard to come by everywhere! However, we got a few menial jobs and worked hard. I always maintained that it helps you grow up when plonked in a situation like that. I do agree that if you cant get anything at all (after exhausting EVERY avenue, then sure, head home).

I too have worked in the states and Canada and i can tell you this, ive worked in everything from washing dishes to selling beer, Aus is by far the hardest Job market i have ever encounted. In the states and Canada if they hear a Irish accent they are curious and you more or less have the Job, here in Aus if they hear the Irish accent i would say 30% of the time they hang up the phone and thats no lie.

kraggy

El Weirdo wrote: »

Well, if your posts are anything to go by, I think that your CV may need tidying up a little.

Bandit12 wrote: »

Pull your socks up and stop moaning. Went to NY in the early 90's myself with nowt and scraped and scrathed for a job for months until i got one. No one said life was going to be easy. Man up ffs.

Did you read the title of the thread?

The guy is just giving a warning to people who are intending to go out there that it might be tougher than anticipated.

Give him a break.

Wompa1

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

I too have worked in the states and Canada and i can tell you this, ive worked in everything from washing dishes to selling beer, Aus is by far the hardest Job market i have ever encounted. In the states and Canada if they hear a Irish accent they are curious and you more or less have the Job, here in Aus if they hear the Irish accent i would say 30% of the time they hang up the phone and thats no lie.

Wouldn't blame them for hanging up in fairness. Sure keep on keepin on my friend. You'll find something. I've heard Adelaide is good for work alright, have you tried other places?

the_syco

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

things are very bad here at the moment for traditional backpacker employment

Um... what is this "traditional backpacker employment"? Some cushy number that pays well, and don't mind if you come in next morning with a hangover? Pffft.

adamski8

HEY that was defo more than one word!

ejmaztec

JONJO THE MISERABLE wrote: »

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JONJO THE MISER

Wompa1 wrote: »

Wouldn't blame them for hanging up in fairness. Sure keep on keepin on my friend. You'll find something. I've heard Adelaide is good for work alright, have you tried other places?

Yeah i Might try Adeladie, and by the way for the rest of the posters im not in sydney or melbourne and i dont hang out in Irish pubs wearing a Gaa Jersey, in fact where i am ive only met about 6 Irish people in the last 2 months.

conky_05

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

I know what your saying but there are lots of people over here now at the moment who are between 28 and 35 and they have no parents to fall back on.

is the age limit for a working holiday visa not 30 years old ?

JONJO THE MISER

the_syco wrote: »

Um... what is this "traditional backpacker employment"? Some cushy number that pays well, and don't mind if you come in next morning with a hangover? Pffft.

I wish, i have no qualifcatons and have just mostly done factory and other such manual work, so i think you should not make assumptions about all backpackers, plus the fact is im not from a middle class background, working class and i dont have parents to fall back on so lay off a little.

opinion guy

Deleted User wrote: »

He says it's the best place he's travelled to and he lived in California for a while.

Not California ?!?!?!?! The land of milk and honey ??? Hmmm big difference between say Bel Air and South Central LA you know.

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

I too have worked in the states and Canada and i can tell you this, ive worked in everything from washing dishes to selling beer, Aus is by far the hardest Job market i have ever encounted. In the states and Canada if they hear a Irish accent they are curious and you more or less have the Job, here in Aus if they hear the Irish accent i would say 30% of the time they hang up the phone and thats no lie.

News just in: Australians don't like foreigners......


In fairness thou - thanks for the warning!

Wompa1

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

Yeah i Might try Adeladie, and by the way for the rest of the posters im not in sydney or melbourne and i dont hang out in Irish pubs wearing a Gaa Jersey, in fact where i am ive only met about 6 Irish people in the last 2 months.

Congrats, you bucked the trend. Would you consider going somewhere else? Like Singapore?

opinion guy

opinion guy wrote: »

Not California ?!?!?!?! The land of milk and honey ??? Hmmm big difference between say Bel Air and South Central LA you know.

What the fuks up your gee?

I just said he lived in California as a comparison to show he's lived a few places around the world.

Plank.

the_syco

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

things are very bad here at the moment for traditional backpacker employment.

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

so i think you should not make assumptions about all backpackers

I made no assumptions. But the way you talk of "traditional backpacker employment", you make it sound like it should be an easy thing to get. I never went to Oz, never had the moeny or the want to fly over there, so please tell me what theis "traditional backpacker employment" is?

the_syco

the_syco wrote: »

I made no assumptions. But the way you talk of "traditional backpacker employment", you make it sound like it should be an easy thing to get. I never went to Oz, never had the moeny or the want to fly over there, so please tell me what theis "traditional backpacker employment" is?

Never been backpacking but I presume bar work, restaurant work, working in resorts etc.

markok84

I've never been to Australia, and I have no desire to go.

That's pretty much all I wanted to say, I'm pretty hammered so I'll leave ye to it.

opinion guy

Deleted User wrote: »

What the fuks up your gee?

I just said he lived in California as a comparison to show he's lived a few places around the world.

Plank.

No you said he's ived lots of places - he's EVEN lived in California like that was supposed to be the best place in the world. Not saying it isn't - in fact its pretty awesome, but not all of it. But saying you lived in California and it was X, Y or Z is akin to saying you lived in Europe and it was X, Y, or Z. Europe and California are big places!!!

Spanner.

listermint

Meh

went there, didnt like it vastly came home.

Australian males do have a major ego trip thing going on.

From Perth To Cairn Brisbane To Adelaide . Pretty much majority attitude.

Liked seeing the country but would NEVER live there, not my bag.

And the whole "abbo" thing, fierce social problem pretty much caused by
the white invasion from the west.

opinion guy

opinion guy wrote: »

No you said he's ived lots of places - he's EVEN lived in California like that was supposed to be the best place in the world. Not saying it isn't - in fact its pretty awesome, but not all of it. But saying you lived in California and it was X, Y or Z is akin to saying you lived in Europe and it was X, Y, or Z. Europe and California are big places!!!

Spanner.

I still don't see any problem with what I said.. I don't see why you should either.

Mossy Monk

I know 9 people out there at the moment, 8 are employed. The jobs are there if you are willing to do the **** work.

Patricide

Mossy Monk wrote: »

I know 9 people out there at the moment, 8 are employed. The jobs are there if you are willing to do the **** work.

Well, the **** work is better than no work right?

steps_3314

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

Surely for a backpacker a tent is home

class post

dr.bollocko

Deleted User wrote: »

What the fuks up your gee?

I just said he lived in California as a comparison to show he's lived a few places around the world.

Plank.

opinion guy wrote: »

No you said he's ived lots of places - he's EVEN lived in California like that was supposed to be the best place in the world. Not saying it isn't - in fact its pretty awesome, but not all of it. But saying you lived in California and it was X, Y or Z is akin to saying you lived in Europe and it was X, Y, or Z. Europe and California are big places!!!

Spanner.

Quit it