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  • 21-12-2009 10:04AM
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 10


    Hi,

    I've set up a new account as I really don't want anyone to know who I am. I cannot believe that I am actually posting this considering my account balance yesterday showed €2500.

    It all started a few months ago when I threw some money into my Betfair account. Started off slowly but after a while I built it up to around 500. This soon became 1000 and a few weeks ago it was 2700. But yesterday it all went wrong. I placed a 500 euro bet in the afternoon but this did not work out. Attempting to recover this loss I layed a team at 2.26 for around 600 euro to try and get this back. This team won and I was panicking at this stage. Balance of roughly 1300 and in a desperate attempt to regain some of this I placed 1000 on over 2.5 goals in the Valencia match. Of course it was 0-0 at ht and I bailed out here to leave me with a balance of 700. I then managed to have one more bet that also did not win which left me with a final balance of 360. From 2500 to 360 in the space of 6 hours.

    I'm sitting here in work and I'm totally depressed about this. I don't know how this happened. Worst of all I was snappy to my girlfriend earlier and she thought she did something wrong :( I woke up this morning contemplating putting another 2k back in to my account.

    I'm so upset about this. Had plans to go away in the new year etc, was all going well. What the hell do I do? I honestly cannot focus at all here in work today.

    Thanks for reading.


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Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,480 ✭✭✭Devastator


    JJ009 wrote: »

    I've set up a new account as I really don't want anyone to know who I am.


    I'm so upset about this. Had plans to go away in the new year etc, was all going well. What the hell do I do?



    quit gambling.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 381 ✭✭Dr. Dodger


    We've all had moments of madness JJ. You've just got to learn from it. It's feels great to build up a big balance but if you don't think you've got control or you feel like you're betting beyond your limit, you've got to take action. I know this is useless to you now but that's the nature of gambling I suppose and at the end of the day, it's only money. Things could be a hell of a lot worse.

    If I were you I'd take that remaining balance and go buy your girlfriend somethin nice and give the gambling a break for a while. You'll only be trying to get back to were you were and that's what got you here in the first place.

    Tough break though..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10 JJ009


    Thanks for the replies. Have spent quite a bit on the girlfriend already but I get what you mean :) I'm trying to think positively about this but at the same time I'm totally sick. I honestly cannot stop thinking about it all morning. It's also down to the fact that I probably don't have long left in my current job, only have around 5k to my name etc :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46 Sligome


    i would say that you have a gambling problem and really need to take a look at what you are doing


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10 JJ009


    I know that I have a problem, see the title! :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,480 ✭✭✭Devastator


    JJ009 wrote: »
    I know that I have a problem, see the title! :D



    well obviously with smartass replies then you don't need any further help here! :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,968 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Lock your betfair account. It won't let you back in for 6 months.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10 JJ009


    Devastator wrote: »
    well obviously with smartass replies then you don't need any further help here! :rolleyes:

    Woops, seriously wasn't meant to be a smartass reply.

    Apologies.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10 JJ009


    mike65 wrote: »
    Lock your betfair account. It won't let you back in for 6 months.

    Hey Mike, I'll be honest with you here, I used that function 2 years ago so I know all about it :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,968 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Then I suggest you do have a problem and the first thing to do is just admit it, not with us - with your girlfreind. Does she know you bet? If not tell her and that you could do with some support.

    Have a look here http://www.gamblersanonymous.ie/ they seem a freindly bunch.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10 JJ009


    She knows I used to bet but I don't think she knows I'm betting now - certainly not the amounts listed above, that's for sure.

    I feel so embarrassed that I can't bring myself to tell her though :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,290 ✭✭✭jacool


    buddy, I've been there.
    Its all about control. I found myself in that scenario about 2 years ago.
    Built up and built up and built up on bf and when I felt invincible, BOOM, like a house of cards.
    The main step is a backwards one, just to rationalise the whole thing.
    If you look at the bets you make to chase losses, and analyse them, you will probably see that you wouldn't have done them if you were up.
    The other, bigger reality, although you can't see it now, is that although you went from 2500 to 360 in one day, you'll probably see that over the few months you are actually breaking even (you did say you grew it to 500).
    If you did that once, you can do it again.
    I now set myself daily or weekly targets and try to meet those. When I do I get out. Its not easy, as you think you are on a roll, and can't lose. But nothing is worse than meeting the target and saying, just one more, which wipes out everything you've made!
    I dropped almost everything 4 weeks ago, but based on the 100% outlay that day I am now at 400%, so it can be done, if you can discipline yourself. But its not easy if you have the "urge".


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,968 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    JJ009 wrote: »
    She knows I used to bet but I don't think she knows I'm betting now - certainly not the amounts listed above, that's for sure.

    I feel so embarrassed that I can't bring myself to tell her though :(

    Well you don't have to reveal the fullest extent of the problem right now, you could be placing much smaller bets and still have issues.

    I'm assuming you have a solid loving relationship - I'd say "Honey, I could do with your help, I think I have a problem with gambling" and take it from there, if she loves you she will want to help and be glad that you confided in her rather than hide it. Then you can take things to the next step - suggest to her that you will visit the people linked to above (that way she will know you have thought about this and are ready to move forward).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,102 ✭✭✭am i bovvered


    JJ009 wrote: »
    Hi,
    I'm sitting here in work and I'm totally depressed about this. I don't know how this happened. Worst of all I was snappy to my girlfriend earlier and she thought she did something wrong :( I woke up this morning contemplating putting another 2k back in to my account.

    I'm so upset about this. Had plans to go away in the new year etc, was all going well. What the hell do I do? I honestly cannot focus at all here in work today.

    Thanks for reading.

    Classic behavior for any gambler, if someone that gambles regularly tells you that this never happened to the they are lying or very early in their gambling life.

    You have 2 clear choices....

    walk away now and remember this whole experience like some mad trip you went on (some people go skiing, you went mad gambling :)), if you stop now consider it as I had that life changing experience and it cost me 2k not bad value over the course of your life, people have wasted money doing worse things. Do not worry about the sickness that will go with time, your betting has only effected you, no children etc.

    2nd choice is try and learn from your mistakes improve your methods learn to walk away, some people are successful at doing this and have a healthy and enjoyable life experience with gambling at the centre of all entertainment.
    But most gamblers don't learn long term, and you will find yourselve in bother again, this is fine but you will have to put up and shut up about the sick feeling and the highs and lows because they are part and parcel of gambling. The amounts of money mean nothing they are all relative to the persons time of life and circumstances.

    My advice for what its worth is do not lodge anymore of your money with betfair, withdraw the €360 (if its still there ;)) and enjoy yourself along with your girlfriend with it, you don't need to explain anything to anyone its your life.... its supposed to be fun !!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10 JJ009


    Thanks am i bovvered. I know it may come across as me feeling sorry for myself but at this moment I cannot think straight and just felt a need to post something here. It's hard when my girlfriend is asking if everything is okay when quite clearly it isn't.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,568 ✭✭✭thewools


    I gave up serious gambling a few years back - I was up thousands and withdrew alot of it. I was on a roll - I couldnt lose. I won big and lost big but lacked any sort of system. I initally deposited €100 and somehow the balance kept on growing and growing. I dont know how I did it but I did :)

    Later on with my balance bulging I was playing turbo heads up games of poker for up to $1000 and min bets on sports of anything from €100 to €1000

    However it affected me in adverse ways. I was playing poker before work and late into the nights. I was contantly thinking about my next gamble or researching horses, soccer teams, even baseball and american football ffs.. :rolleyes:

    It was affecting my work, social life etc... So I gave it up more or less. It wasnt worth it.

    I now only really gamble during Cheltenham and in a small time betting syndicate (€5 a week). I now enjoy my time relaxing instead of contantly on the edge betting like a maniac.

    So if I were you OP I would take a break and see what happens. If you really miss the gambling etc too much; follow a strict system. Only gamble a percentage of your bankroll a day. If you lose that day - dont attempt to recover. the next betting day you can gamble up to the same percentage: eg 3%


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 363 ✭✭dan de man


    stop online gambling,it is too handy for those of us with poor discipline,if you bet in a shop with cold cash you wont be long changing your ways.
    pick out your bets,place them and let that be it.there were no bookmaker shops open last night to chase your money.
    think of it as a lesson learned.in one sense u were lucky as u built up the account balance and didnt actually lose too much of your own,put it behind you and move on...and dont tell your girlfriend,she will not understand:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,102 ✭✭✭am i bovvered


    JJ009 wrote: »
    Thanks am i bovvered. I know it may come across as me feeling sorry for myself but at this moment I cannot think straight and just felt a need to post something here. It's hard when my girlfriend is asking if everything is okay when quite clearly it isn't.

    Anyone including me that gives advice on this thread is speaking fron personal experience :o
    There is no problem feeling sh1t at the moment, this is normal, what I was talking about is if you decide to continue gambling in the future, taking the highs and lows together.

    For now, a good tool for getting over the bad feelings you have is to change the mind set....... do this......
    decide that you have enjoyed the ride, someday in the future, it might be 6 months, 1 year, 5 years from now you will lump on a decent bet, and walk away on top !!!!! but for now your gonna let it go with positive thoughts.

    Whether you ever get around to placing that bet nobody knows, as of yet I have not :)... its been nearly 3 years.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,968 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    dan de man wrote: »
    and dont tell your girlfriend,she will not understand:)
    JJ009 wrote: »
    It's hard when my girlfriend is asking if everything is okay when quite clearly it isn't.

    And that is why JJ should say whats eating him.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,783 ✭✭✭Pj!


    Go to Gamcare.org.uk. There is a forum and a chatroom.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,102 ✭✭✭am i bovvered


    JJ009 wrote: »
    It's hard when my girlfriend is asking if everything is okay when quite clearly it isn't.

    Its up to you whether you say whats wrong or not or how much detail you go into.
    If you decide to continue the gamble it could be a good thing to tell her everything as she could help to keep things sane.

    If you have decided not to lodge the 2k and stop, I would just say "we're gonna have a great crimbo, sorry for being a bit of a dick lately, xx " and move on.

    I did not really want to get into my own story but it might help you out...
    I gambled a lot before I was married and had given up once I had children etc, after a few years I started back on the football pools etc, with the money coming from my wife credit card, I wanted this as I thought it would be a good control, (my wife is extremely easy going and has never asked me to stop gambling or been angry over a big loss where as I would be sick for a week or more. ) I was happy out for about a year, telling everyone that it was great I could enjoy the buzz again SAFELY.
    The thing that destroyed it all was believe it or not a big win !!! I had a decent pot once again, and the obsessive behavior and thoughts started again.... it was a relief when I had emptied my account. I realised then unfortunately for me I am unable to enjoy a bet.
    I used the mental method I posted before to help with the initial period, and enjoyed life a bit more, went for dinner, bought clothes etc and now really love my life.

    Although now I am obsessed with skiing :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,838 ✭✭✭Nulty


    Hi JJ, I've been there too. Fairplay to you for seeking advice here. No better heads to get advice from.

    I would agree that you should take that money out - at least until the bad taste is out of your mouth. Any bets you make with that will be questionable. Take a step back from gambling and ask yourself one question....

    Do you trust yourself?

    You'll know what to do when you can answer that question honestly.

    About telling your girlfriend, I personally wouldn't but it does contribute to a healthy relationship.

    All the best mate


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,318 ✭✭✭✭mdwexford


    ul OP, redeposit the 2k, you'll be luckier this time for sure.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,956 ✭✭✭CHD


    You lost. Get over it. Stick 2k back into your account and spin again. Gambooool.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22 zztopper


    If your a punter you have go to accept your losses, you should have withdrawn 2k and strted again, if you are not able for losing days forget it and join a yoga class.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,156 ✭✭✭cuterob


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,058 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    "Try again.
    Fail Again.
    Fail Better."

    — Samuel Beckett


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,156 ✭✭✭cuterob


    JJ009 wrote: »
    Hi,

    I've set up a new account as I really don't want anyone to know who I am. I cannot believe that I am actually posting this considering my account balance yesterday showed €2500.

    It all started a few months ago when I threw some money into my Betfair account. Started off slowly but after a while I built it up to around 500. This soon became 1000 and a few weeks ago it was 2700. But yesterday it all went wrong. I placed a 500 euro bet in the afternoon but this did not work out. Attempting to recover this loss I layed a team at 2.26 for around 600 euro to try and get this back. This team won and I was panicking at this stage. Balance of roughly 1300 and in a desperate attempt to regain some of this I placed 1000 on over 2.5 goals in the Valencia match. Of course it was 0-0 at ht and I bailed out here to leave me with a balance of 700. I then managed to have one more bet that also did not win which left me with a final balance of 360. From 2500 to 360 in the space of 6 hours.

    I'm sitting here in work and I'm totally depressed about this. I don't know how this happened. Worst of all I was snappy to my girlfriend earlier and she thought she did something wrong :( I woke up this morning contemplating putting another 2k back in to my account.

    I'm so upset about this. Had plans to go away in the new year etc, was all going well. What the hell do I do? I honestly cannot focus at all here in work today.

    Thanks for reading.

    you never had the money in the first place..think of it that way..it's like your giving several jellybeans.. lets say 14.. nice round number.. then you find 53 more jellybeans and you add them to your stash.. now a jellybean loving animal comes along one day.. lets say an Angora Rabbit for instance.. and he eats 50 of your jellybeans.. well it was your fault for not putting somewhere safe where the angora cant get them but it doesn't REALLY matter cause you didn't own them in the first place..

    i turned 40 euro into 2600 once playing blackjack and blew it all in a matter of minutes.. do i have a gambling problem?? no i do not.. i have a drinking problem.. and if you can direct me towards the right forum for that i would appreciate it v.much.. danke


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 82 ✭✭redorblack


    mdwexford wrote: »
    ul OP, redeposit the 2k, you'll be luckier this time for sure.

    You aren't much help or funny at all.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,956 ✭✭✭CHD


    redorblack wrote: »
    You aren't much help or funny at all.
    Neither are you so ha.


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