People of after hours help me out here.

Car Mad · 17-12-2009 6:31am #1

Right ladies and gentlemen I was given a brain teaser to do and I cant for the life of me figure it out so heres one for you brainboxes out there now my wording might not be the best but work with me here.

3 Fellas walk into a hotel to stay the night and the receptionist charges them €30 .They are brought to there room to settle in.
When gone to there rooms the receptionist realises he made a mistake and should of charged them €25 so he gives the bell boy €5 to give to the 3 men.
The bell boy gives the men €3 and keeps the other €2 for himself.
This means the 3 men paid €9 each for the room 3X9=27 plus the 2 that the bell boy has 27+2=29
The question is wheres the missing €1 :eek:

Car Mad · 17-12-2009 6:37am

brendansmith wrote: »

The 3 men didnt pay 9 euro they paid 9.33 euro.

Took me a while!

But when they got back the 3 euro between them they got one each. 10-1=9
am i looking at the question wrong:D

Mackman · 17-12-2009 6:39am

you take the 2 euro FROM 27 instead of adding it, that means the men were supposed to pay 25 each, but they paid 27 cause the bell boy kept the 2 euro

brendansmith · 17-12-2009 6:40am

Car Mad wrote: »

But when they got back the 3 euro between them they got one each. 10-1=9
am i looking at the question wrong:D

Yeah I thought I had it but then kept thinking and realised I didnt know what i was talking about. Bollocks!

one-angry-dwarf · 17-12-2009 6:41am

there is no missing €1.
of the original €30, there is now €25 with the receptionist, €3 back with the 3 guys and €2 in the bell boys pocket. 25+3+2=30

it's true that the guys have now paid €27, but of that amount 25 is with the receptionist and 2 with the bellboy. what you've done is add the €2 to that €27, instead of adding the €3 that was refunded.

I know I'm not explaining it well, but it's 5:45am and this is the best my brain works at this hour

Car Mad · 17-12-2009 6:45am

one-angry-dwarf wrote: »

there is no missing €1.
of the original €30, there is now €25 with the receptionist, €3 back with the 3 guys and €2 in the bell boys pocket. 25+3+2=30

it's true that the guys have now paid €27, but of that amount 25 is with the receptionist and 2 with the bellboy. what you've done is add the €2 to that €27, instead of adding the €3 that was refunded.

I know I'm not explaining it well, but it's 5:45am and this is the best my brain works at this hour

Àhh that could explain it dam trick questions:D Couldnt go too sleep twas annoing me so much :eek:

brendansmith · 17-12-2009 6:48am

Oh wait. Yeah Ive got it!

davyjose · 17-12-2009 7:20am

They paid 28 Euro. Seriously, it's not a riddle if you're just crap at maths. What Roz said....

Duiske · 17-12-2009 7:21am

brendansmith wrote: »

Oh wait. Yeah Ive got it!

Penicillin should clear that right up.

Oh wait....I get ir.

_Roz_ · 17-12-2009 7:36am

davyjose wrote: »

They paid 28 Euro. Seriously, it's not a riddle if you're just crap at maths.

They paid 27 euro.

They originally paid 30, and were given 3 back. 30 - 3 is 27.

:rolleyes:

ETA: The problem people have is when they work out 27 was paid, they forget that is including the bell boy's 2 euro, and not including the 3 in their pockets.

davyjose · 17-12-2009 7:43am

_Roz_ wrote: »

They paid 27 euro.

They originally paid 30, and were given 3 back. 30 - 3 is 27.

:rolleyes:

ETA: The problem people have is when they work out 27 was paid, they forget that is including the bell boy's 2 euro, and not including the 3 in their pockets.

Alternatively, I could be the one who was wrong...

...perhaps I was wrong in the past

Hmm... anyone know how to undo knife wounds?

_Roz_ · 17-12-2009 7:55am

It's okay, I won't tell anyone.

It's between you, me, and everyone who reads this thread.

davyjose · 17-12-2009 8:03am

_Roz_ wrote: »

It's okay, I won't tell anyone.

It's between you, me, and everyone who reads this thread.

It's funny though, the missus is always making euros disappear. I should be used to it.

Edit: Check my first post...

Joey the lips · 17-12-2009 9:06am

Car Mad wrote: »

Right ladies and gentlemen I was given a brain teaser to do and I cant for the life of me figure it out so heres one for you brainboxes out there now my wording might not be the best but work with me here.

3 Fellas walk into a hotel to stay the night and the receptionist charges them €30 .They are brought to there room to settle in.
When gone to there rooms the receptionist realises he made a mistake and should of charged them €25 so he gives the bell boy €5 to give to the 3 men.
The bell boy gives the men €3 and keeps the other €2 for himself.
This means the 3 men paid €9 each for the room 3X9=27 plus the 2 that the bell boy has 27+2=29
The question is wheres the missing €1 :eek:

I dont see the problem

I see the equation as 30-3-2 = 25

You see the equation as ((30-3-2))/3 which is not a div whole number.

The actual fact is 3x9=27+3 Euro returned by the bell boy equals 30

The 2 Euro has already been taken so its included in the bill.

Wazdakka · 17-12-2009 9:12am

Shhhhh... Don't tell anyone you've found a way to invent money..

The bloody government will find a way to take it from you.

Bastards :mad:

phasers · 17-12-2009 9:13am

This isn't a brain teaser, it's addition and subtraction

star.chaser · 17-12-2009 1:16pm

this is basic maths. anyone that didn't get it within 30 seconds is bleedin tick

whadabouchasir · 17-12-2009 1:27pm

If you don't think that that's a brain teaser try this one.
On a Philosophy exam paper one of the questions once consisted of just the word "Why?" and nothing else.There is only one correct answer,what is it?

DualFrontDiscs · 17-12-2009 1:35pm

Why not?

whadabouchasir · 17-12-2009 1:37pm

DualFrontDiscs wrote: »

Why not?

Correct

General Zod · 17-12-2009 1:57pm

what makes it correct?

"To know" would be equally correct. "Hula Hoop Sandwich" would be equally correct.

The question and answer are just put forward by people who like to pretend they are philosophical.

DualFrontDiscs · 17-12-2009 2:08pm

General Zod wrote: »

what makes it correct?

Why not?

General Zod · 17-12-2009 2:09pm

DualFrontDiscs wrote: »

Why not?

He's answering a question with a question, for a start.

derfderf · 17-12-2009 2:15pm

(why+not)/why?

star.chaser · 17-12-2009 2:36pm

whadabouchasir wrote: »

If you don't think that that's a brain teaser try this one.
On a Philosophy exam paper one of the questions once consisted of just the word "Why?" and nothing else.There is only one correct answer,what is it?

whats the next brain teasers someones gonna post? 1+1=?

I bet most of those philosophy heads wrote page after page of Bullsheets.

Ticktactoe · 17-12-2009 3:37pm

derfderf wrote: »

(why+not)/why?

(Why+To Know)/Why? :eek:

ctrl-alt-delete · 17-12-2009 3:49pm

Car Mad wrote: »

Right ladies and gentlemen I was given a brain teaser to do and I cant for the life of me figure it out so heres one for you brainboxes out there now my wording might not be the best but work with me here.

3 Fellas walk into a hotel to stay the night and the receptionist charges them €30 .They are brought to there room to settle in.
When gone to there rooms the receptionist realises he made a mistake and should of charged them €25 so he gives the bell boy €5 to give to the 3 men.
The bell boy gives the men €3 and keeps the other €2 for himself.
This means the 3 men paid €9 each for the room 3X9=27 plus the 2 that the bell boy has 27+2=29
The question is wheres the missing €1 :eek:

im a tool

NothingMan · 17-12-2009 3:49pm

Why?

To get to the other side?

5starpool · 17-12-2009 3:54pm

dishonest fecking bellboy.

bman · 17-12-2009 4:21pm

5starpool wrote: »

dishonest fecking bellboy.

The dodgy basterd has them all fooled, not me! He's definitely scamming something out of it.

AckwelFoley · 17-12-2009 5:05pm

star.chaser wrote: »

this is basic maths. anyone that didn't get it within 30 seconds is bleedin tick

I think you mean thick

lol

Own3d

star.chaser · 17-12-2009 5:39pm

A man goes into an orchard. He takes no apples but he leaves no apples after he leaves. How did he do it?

Before anyone asks, yes, their were apples in the orchard!

Ticktactoe · 17-12-2009 5:41pm

star.chaser wrote: »

A man goes into an orchard. He takes no apples but he leaves no apples after he leaves. How did he do it?

Before anyone asks, yes, their were apples in the orchard!

He ate them all....

lugha · 17-12-2009 5:46pm

Ticktactoe wrote: »

He ate them all....

[pedantic]
He still took them out, albeit in a different form?

[/pedantic]

Boom Boom · 17-12-2009 5:50pm

Not staying in that hotel bellboy = robbing little fecker

Not taking philosophy because it is not fact I only deal in facts

Originally Posted by star.chaser
A man goes into an orchard. He takes no apples but he leaves no apples after he leaves. How did he do it?

Before anyone asks, yes, their were apples in the orchard!

Bulmers advert am I right:D

Ticktactoe · 17-12-2009 5:52pm

lugha wrote: »

[pedantic]
He still took them out, albeit in a different form?
[/pedantic]

A nation holds its breath!
I actually had to google pedantic and Im still none the wiser :eek:

_Roz_ · 17-12-2009 5:53pm

He takes no apples to the orchard and as such has no apples to leave behind him?

General Zod · 17-12-2009 5:53pm

star.chaser wrote: »

A man goes into an orchard. He takes no apples but he leaves no apples after he leaves. How did he do it?

Before anyone asks, yes, their were apples in the orchard!

He went into Cherry Orchard.

star.chaser · 17-12-2009 6:01pm

General Zod wrote: »

He went into Cherry Orchard.

If he went in there, he wouldn't come out alive.

It was an apple orchard.

_Roz_ · 17-12-2009 6:34pm

star.chaser wrote: »

If he went in there, he wouldn't come out alive.

It was an apple orchard.

I can't see any answer other than what I said - that it's an issue of semantics and that he 'takes no apples' (with him going to the orchard) and therefore 'leaves no apples' after him in the orchard because he's physically incapable of leaving what he did not bring.

So what's the answer?

Mackman · 18-12-2009 2:14am

star.chaser wrote: »

A man goes into an orchard. He takes no apples but he leaves no apples after he leaves. How did he do it?

Before anyone asks, yes, their were apples in the orchard!

There arent any apples in the orchard, its the off season (or whatever its called)

Novella · 18-12-2009 2:49am

I wish I didn't read this thread 'cause now I wanna know where all the apples went and I won't be able to sleep!

Professey Chin · 18-12-2009 2:53am

Im gonna agree with Roz on this one

Doc · 18-12-2009 3:05am

He could have burt down the orchard.

He could have made cider from the apples.

Or again as someone has said it could be a play on words. For example if I said I walked into the national portrait gallery with two paintings under my arms. I didn’t take any paintings from the gallery and walked out with the same two paintings. I could also say that “A man goes into an gallery. He takes no paintings but he leaves no paintings after he leaves.”

So the man could simply have walked into the orchard taken no apples and not deposited any apples either.

_Roz_ · 18-12-2009 3:11am

I seriously can't see any other solution.

But I want to know the answer now, because it's going to drive me mad.

star.chaser · 18-12-2009 1:55pm

yeah, it's a play on words.
their were two apples in the orchard.
he didn't take any apples and he didn't leave any apples.
he took an apple and he left an apple. :pac:

_Roz_ · 18-12-2009 2:50pm

But the word 'any' implies singular case also, so that doesn't exactly make sense. In order to not take or leave 'any apples' he would have to not take or leave any at all. That's how the word 'any' works, regardless of what word you put after it.

star.chaser · 18-12-2009 4:29pm

apple = 1
apples = more than 1

possibly on it's own any implies singular but in the contect it was used (any apples), how could you possibly argue that it means singular? God.

NothingMan · 18-12-2009 4:36pm

star.chaser wrote: »

apple = 1
apples = more than 1

Any

You use any in statements with negative meaning to indicate that no thing or person of a particular type exists, is present, or is involved in a situation.
I never make any big decisions.

I'm not making any promises.

I think the whole, didn't bring any, couldn't leave any argument is much better.

_Roz_ · 19-12-2009 2:01am

NothingMan wrote: »

I think the whole, didn't bring any, couldn't leave any argument is much better.

If you're telling a riddle based on semantics you kind of need to adhere to basic grammar, and 'any' applies also to an individual apple.

So thanks. I agree, my argument is valid either way, and arguably the only correct answer.

Sharpshooter · 19-12-2009 2:49am

Moved from After Hours.

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