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Tesco's offensive card

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  • #62
    DOC09UNAM
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,305 ✭✭✭DOC09UNAM


    prinz wrote: »
    So? Neither one have you any control over or choice in the matter.

    You can't control the colour of your hair?

    Strange, tell that to my hair.


  • #63
    topper75
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,942 ✭✭✭topper75


    Red hair is determined by distribution of melanin, as is black skin. Perfectly good analogy, but some posters can't seem to digest it. What is sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander. You'd be rightly seen as a neanderthal if you issued the same card with dark skin as the butt of the joke. But red-haired people are somehow fair game? The cognitive dissonance is crazy. The woman made a good call. I'm glad Tesco saw sense and retracted. All DNA goes back to the one small group of humans anyway. Slagging off people with red hair (or ginger hair as many refer to it in Britain) hints at some sort of nonsensical WASPy blond-haired, blue-eyed supremacy that belongs back in the 19th century. Good riddance to it and may the enlightenment continue.


  • #64
    humanji
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    DOC09UNAM wrote: »
    You can't control the colour of your hair?

    Strange, tell that to my hair.
    Your hair is sentient and can change colour?


  • #65
    robby^5
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    topper75 wrote: »
    Slagging off people with red hair (or ginger hair as many refer to it in Britain) hints at some sort of nonsensical WASPy blond-haired, blue-eyed supremacy that belongs back in the 19th century. Good riddance to it and may the enlightenment continue.

    I think it's just down to tools who lift their opinions directly from South Park.


  • #66
    DOC09UNAM
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,305 ✭✭✭DOC09UNAM


    humanji wrote: »
    Your hair is sentient and can change colour?

    If you read what he said, he said I had no control over my hair colour.

    I simply stated I do have control over my hair colour, I never stated my hair had control of itself.


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  • #67
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 53,068 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    humanji wrote: »
    Thank god. I thought all that bullying I suffered for a huge portion of my life was real. But if it only happens in america...

    Point out to me exactly where I said that bullying only takes place in America?

    Seriously?

    My post referred to the fact that the "kick a ginger day" campaign was initiated by Americans and the South Park Episode which promted the facebook campaign was also written in America.

    Am I wrong??


  • #68
    prinz
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    DOC09UNAM wrote: »
    I simply stated I do have control over my hair colour, I never stated my hair had control of itself.

    So you chose in the womb what hair colour you would be born with? :confused:


  • #69
    arybvtcw0eolkf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,608 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    Remember THIS THREAD!.

    Bastards.

    'Ginger for ever' - me :)


  • #70
    prinz
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    Am I wrong??

    Yes, it was Canadians


  • #71
    humanji
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    DOC09UNAM wrote: »
    If you read what he said, he said I had no control over my hair colour.

    I simply stated I do have control over my hair colour, I never stated my hair had control of itself.
    Actually, you didn't. You said "tell that to my hair".

    But I digress. You changing your hair colour is like bleaching a black kids skin. The colour is artificially changed. So the comparison still holds true, surprisingly.


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  • #72
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 53,068 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    prinz wrote: »
    Yes, it was Canadians

    Ok, so south park is written by Canadians, this I was not aware of, I apologise for my error.

    I still think Humanji owes an explanation as to how he came to the conclusion from my post that I was suggesting that bullying happens only in america!


  • #73
    Dudess
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    Good-natured slagging ain't bullying - often the opposite.


  • #74
    prinz
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    Ok, so south park is written by Canadians, this I was not aware of, I apologise for my error.

    No, the facebook group and the majority of the ensuing bullying was in Canada. :pac:


  • #75
    bman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 590 ✭✭✭bman


    DOC09UNAM wrote: »
    If you read what he said, he said I had no control over my hair colour.

    I simply stated I do have control over my hair colour, I never stated my hair had control of itself.

    You also indicated that you, or expect that other people should, speak to your hair.
    DOC09UNAM wrote: »
    Strange, tell that to my hair.

    I agree with the previous posters who ask would this be funny if it were a black, Jew, etc. I think not.

    Overall, this discrimination has caused many children a lot of hurt and pain,and anyone that can't see that is oblivious, stupid or uncaring.

    * Queue loads of "smart" posters saying "I'm going with option 3".


  • #76
    prinz
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    Dudess wrote: »
    Good-natured slagging ain't bullying - often the opposite.

    Agreed. Unfortunately especially amongst children it's not often good natured.


  • #77
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 53,068 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    prinz wrote: »
    No, the facebook group and the majority of the ensuing bullying was in Canada. :pac:

    And that was all started because of an episode of South Park, so I'm not actually entirely wrong.


  • #78
    Kimia
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,897 ✭✭✭Kimia


    It's actually an anti-Irish sentiment, so therefore Tesco hates Irish people. Let's march to Dundrum with burning torches!


  • #79
    humanji
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    Ok, so south park is written by Canadians, this I was not aware of, I apologise for my error.

    I still think Humanji owes an explanation as to how he came to the conclusion from my post that I was suggesting that bullying happens only in america!
    You're right (well, except for it actually being Canada). The way it seemed was that you were making excuses for it simply because it happened somewhere else. My mistake. Sorry.


  • #80
    stovelid
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    Kids hardly need an excuse for slagging other kids. If one does not exist, they will invent one. The idea that publicizing gingerness will suddenly turn angelic children into relentless slagging machines is bogus.


  • #81
    prinz
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    stovelid wrote: »
    The idea that publicizing gingerness will suddenly turn angelic children into relentless slagging machines is bogus.

    Kids will pick up on things being 'normalised' and deemed acceptable by adults. The very SP episode..fb group..and ensuing bullying indicates that you are in fact wrong.


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  • #82
    [Deleted User]
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    humanji wrote: »
    You're right (well, except for it actually being Canada). The way it seemed was that you were making excuses for it simply because it happened somewhere else. My mistake. Sorry.

    That's ok, these things happen!

    Excusing kids kicking the sh*t out of other kids is not my thing!

    For the record though I've got a ginger kid and a ginger husband and I still find the card hilarious.


  • #83
    DOC09UNAM
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,305 ✭✭✭DOC09UNAM


    humanji wrote: »
    Actually, you didn't. You said "tell that to my hair".

    But I digress. You changing your hair colour is like bleaching a black kids skin. The colour is artificially changed. So the comparison still holds true, surprisingly.

    You're comparing bleaching my hair, to bleaching a black kids skin.

    Wow...

    I can't argue with stupified logic like that, I'm out of this thread before it's too late.


  • #84
    stovelid
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    prinz wrote: »
    Kids will pick up on things being 'normalised' and deemed acceptable by adults. The very SP episode..fb group..and ensuing bullying indicates that you are in fact wrong.

    I got called Chewbacca for months because I once wore a cheap brown duffel to school when the other kids had flash Lord Anthony parkas.

    Thankfully I deflected attention to the fat and/or Ginger kids.

    The predators and serpents of the playground care little for what the oldies think.


  • #85
    robby^5
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    stovelid wrote: »
    Kids hardly 't need an excuse for slagging other kids. If one does not exist, they will invent one. The idea that publicizing gingerness will suddenly turn angelic children into relentless slagging machines is bogus.

    I don't think anyone is saying that at all, its that it legitimises the slagging.

    If a one child slags another about something they usually get told off, but then we have adults making jokes about gingers and the child thinks well then it's acceptable and you end up making targets of kids with ginger hair.

    Kids will slag each other about anything sure, but lets not say to them that it's wrong to attack certain people over their appearance...but if they have ginger hair, then by all means make their life a living hell, which btw is exactly what its liek when you're being slagged about something (as a child) you have no control over.


  • #86
    JP Liz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,588 ✭✭✭JP Liz


    hair dye anyone


  • #87
    prinz
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    stovelid wrote: »
    I got called Chewbacca for months because I once wore a cheap brown duffel to school when the other kids had flash Lord Anthony parkas..

    I loved my duffel coat :( big huge buttons it had..
    stovelid wrote: »
    The predators and serpents of the playground care little for what the oldies think.

    Except they do. Not always but enough. Kids pick up on what adults say, think, make fun of etc.


  • #88
    Kimia
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    Personally I think that any adult who condones ridiculing others because of their appearance are a disgrace. To say that it's fine because it's not the colour of their skin doesn't matter. It's still at the very least mean spirited and nasty.

    But by all means, teach the little children that it's not a big deal. But by your actions you could be condeming another little girl or boy a childhood of misery and exclusion. Fair play to you.


  • #89
    dario28
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    Apparently they are giving the 3 kids free books

    first of all though they have to find out if they have read pubes !!


  • #90
    stovelid
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    prinz wrote: »
    I loved my duffel coat :( big huge buttons it had..

    It's hard to tread a different stylistic path alone at that age.

    Plus you couldn't make that cool periscope-type hood with the duffel, which badly affected its penetration of the early 80s under-12s market.


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  • #91
    humanji
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    DOC09UNAM wrote: »
    You're comparing bleaching my hair, to bleaching a black kids skin.

    Wow...

    I can't argue with stupified logic like that, I'm out of this thread before it's too late.
    Unless you're an x-man with the insane power to change your hair colour at will, you have to use somethig else to chair the colour for you, ie dye. A black person cannot change their skin colour at will, therefore they will need something to change it for them, ie bleach. How is that not similar?


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