Irish Youngsters being discremiated agianst?

JONJO THE MISER · 10-12-2009 07:16PM #1

Just looking at the new social welfare rates and it appears to me that Irish people under 25 are being discreminated against. Was just on the phone to back home and my brother is 23 and at the moment unemployed as are many people his age since the collapse of the building industry in my locality, the general consenus seems to be that if your Irish born and bred and under 24 you get treated like dirt by the goverment and they want you to imigrate but if your a non Irish national who has lived here for just 2 years you get full benefits, i think this is going to add a lot of anger and resentment towards non nationals by those people affected by the cuts and i dont believe its right either that Irish people born and bred here get treated worse than people who have no connection with the place, surely something has to be done and someone has to take a challenge to the lawful extint of this, there is no way that a Irish citizen should be getting lower social wlefare just because of there age while at the same time non irish nationals cn claim full benifits after 2 years living here:mad: its plain crazy and you would find this in no other country where a citizen of the country is treated less than a non citizen, no wonder people are leaning towards the far right across europle with these policies, what say my fellow boardsies?

brummytom · 10-12-2009 07:19PM

Have sentences been rationed in Ireland?

Kradock · 10-12-2009 07:20PM

brummytom wrote: »

Have sentences been rationed in Ireland?

Not if you haven't a dog license

inforfun · 10-12-2009 07:22PM

Can i make a suggestion? Use a speltjekker.

Fulton Crown · 10-12-2009 07:23PM

Piece of advice pal...learn some proper punctuation and spelling....your "fellow boardsies" might be more of a mind to reply.

OK ?

population · 10-12-2009 07:23PM

So let me get this straight

Times are hard, lets blame foreigners

Zzippy · 10-12-2009 07:24PM

brummytom wrote: »

Have sentences been rationed in Ireland?

No, but the government introduced a tax on full stops in the Budget...

Oops - I meant ,,,

AnonoBoy · 10-12-2009 07:24PM

Do non-nationals of the same age not have to take the same cut?

Then fair balls.

Are you suggesting that they just cut back the dole for people who weren't born in Ireland? Yeah. That's fair.

Where's the shake the head slowly emoticon?

efb · 10-12-2009 07:26PM

4 letters PRSI, age shouldn't be a factor

cson · 10-12-2009 07:27PM

What's this about a tax on dis-Cremation?

I suppose the undertaking industry must take a hit too in these tough times.

epgc3fyqirnbsx · 10-12-2009 07:27PM

pfft, what have young people ever done for us?

population · 10-12-2009 07:28PM

yes they do

but its no wonder people are leaning towards the far right eh eh???

anybody???

Damn now Im going to have to take a look at myself rather than blame others. Life lessons are hard.......

Tech3 · 10-12-2009 07:28PM

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

Jsurely something has to be done

He could go and get a job?

jackthekipper · 10-12-2009 07:28PM

AnonoBoy wrote: »

Do non-nationals of the same age not have to take the same cut?

Then fair balls.

Are you suggesting that they just cut back the dole for people who weren't born in Ireland? Yeah. That's fair.

Where's the shake the head slowly emoticon?

Evidence might be misleading you see.

LizT · 10-12-2009 07:31PM

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

Just looking at the new social welfare rates and it appears to me that Irish people under 25 are being discreminated against. Was just on the phone to back home and my brother is 23 and at the moment unemployed as are many people his age since the collapse of the building industry in my locality, the general consenus seems to be that if your Irish born and bred and under 24 you get treated like dirt by the goverment and they want you to imigrate but if your a non Irish national who has lived here for just 2 years you get full benefits, i think this is going to add a lot of anger and resentment towards non nationals by those people affected by the cuts and i dont believe its right either that Irish people born and bred here get treated worse than people who have no connection with the place, surely something has to be done and someone has to take a challenge to the lawful extint of this, there is no way that a Irish citizen should be getting lower social wlefare just because of there age while at the same time non irish nationals cn claim full benifits after 2 years living here:mad: its plain crazy and you would find this in no other country where a citizen of the country is treated less than a non citizen, no wonder people are leaning towards the far right across europle with these policies, what say my fellow boardsies?

I'd like to introduce you to something. It's called a full stop.

> .

electrogrimey · 10-12-2009 07:33PM

tl;dr

(In this case, long can be replaced by badly punctuated.)

Summary someone please? Blar blar budget type thing?

Pinkiss · 10-12-2009 07:33PM

poor irish youngsters

have he tried to apply to mcDonalds for a job ? i guess not,explain this why most foreigners still have jobs when there are so many unemployed irish ?

4zn76tysfajdxp · 10-12-2009 07:33PM

Less of the grammar jibes lads, this isn't an exam.

Duggy747 · 10-12-2009 07:43PM

As for this whole hub-bob on the social, get over it! We needed the cut and a huge percentage of the younger crowd (18-20) are living at home with their parents and many I know have no intentions of getting a job or doing a course. What the hell do they need €204 a week for, rent? Food? ESB? Oil?

My dole got cut down to €102 cuz I'm being switched over to JS Allowance (fùck knows when I'll get the full amount again) and I'm up to my scalp in bills but even I'm managing to survive for the moment by cutting some luxuries (€10 for 8 cans of Bravria FTW :pac:).

It maybe cùntish but the whipper-snappers will cope. I'm sick of hearing some of the younger crowd making out they lost their basic human rights, read a goddamn newspaper besides the tabloids!

jackthekipper · 10-12-2009 07:46PM

On a serious note I wouldn't be surprised if the hope is for young people to emigrate.

Morlar · 10-12-2009 07:50PM

jackthekipper wrote: »

On a serious note I wouldn't be surprised if the hope is for young people to emigrate.

Is that not the point of the first post? Does anyone (who is not a grammar nazi) know is it actually true that non nationals in any way get more by way of benefits that Irish born ?

jackthekipper · 10-12-2009 07:52PM

Morlar wrote: »

Is that not the point of the first post? Does anyone (who is not a grammar nazi) know is it actually true that non nationals in any way get more by way of benefits that Irish born ?

If the OP makes a claim it is up to him to back it up, can't see it being true.

Saltour Sossiez · 10-12-2009 07:54PM

Pinkiss wrote: »

poor irish youngsters have he tried to apply to mcDonalds for a job ? i guess not,explain this why most foreigners still have jobs when there are so many unemployed irish ?

Eastern Europeans are the ideal people to employ. Determined, hard-working and you can pay them less than you would an Irish person. It's quite simple really.

Lola Uneven Rudder wrote: »

Less of the grammar jibes lads, this isn't an exam.

hear hear

Foxhound38 · 10-12-2009 07:54PM

Shur doesnt the Government give them free Porshes and Mansions when they get off the plane at the Airport? :pac:

Morlar · 10-12-2009 07:54PM

jackthekipper wrote: »

If the OP makes a claim it is up to him to back it up, can't see it being true.

Considering the amount of spelling critics we have I figured someone must have an actual answer.

Lab_Mouse · 10-12-2009 07:56PM

Lola Uneven Rudder wrote: »

this isn't an exam.

Well he didnt sit the last one either:D

Mal-Adjusted · 10-12-2009 07:57PM

while there is a bit of truth in what you're saying, the facts are that young people can handle being unemployed better than someone in their mid-forties. the young person has (most likely) no mortgage, cheap-ass car, no family to support and can move back in with their folks. the middle aged unemployed has a bigger chance of having a string of debts (hell, that's how we got into recession, isn't it;))
Having said that, the government's core support is in elderly people so UP-YOURS young unemployed graduates!:mad: They will also always tend to screw over the Irish person in favor of non-nationals to appear more multicultural and non-racist.

...in short, i can see where you're coming from

Mike 1972 · 10-12-2009 08:00PM

Duggy747 wrote: »

I'm sick of hearing some of the younger crowd making out they lost their basic human rights, read a goddamn newspaper besides the tabloids!

Do you realise how much newspapers cost in Ireland. Theyve just had their dole halved remember............

Mal-Adjusted wrote: »

the young person has (most likely) no mortgage, cheap-ass car, no family to support and can move back in with their folks. the middle aged unemployed has a bigger chance of having a string of debts

A lot of assumptions and generalisations there.............

johnathan woss · 10-12-2009 08:07PM

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

Just looking at the new social welfare rates and it appears to me that Irish people under 25 are being discreminated against. Was just on the phone to back home and my brother is 23 and at the moment unemployed as are many people his age since the collapse of the building industry in my locality, the general consenus seems to be that if your Irish born and bred and under 24 you get treated like dirt by the goverment and they want you to imigrate but if your a non Irish national who has lived here for just 2 years you get full benefits, i think this is going to add a lot of anger and resentment towards non nationals by those people affected by the cuts and i dont believe its right either that Irish people born and bred here get treated worse than people who have no connection with the place, surely something has to be done and someone has to take a challenge to the lawful extint of this, there is no way that a Irish citizen should be getting lower social wlefare just because of there age while at the same time non irish nationals cn claim full benifits after 2 years living here:mad: its plain crazy and you would find this in no other country where a citizen of the country is treated less than a non citizen, no wonder people are leaning towards the far right across europle with these policies, what say my fellow boardsies?

Wasn't this debunked on boards awhile ago ?

If you've worked anywhere in the EU for two years you can claim full benefits here as far as I remember.
Apparently other governments foot some of the bill but I cannot fathom how that would work in practice.

Can anyone clarify ?

jaffa20 · 10-12-2009 08:08PM

I think it's unfair that somone who is 23 will get 150 but someone who is 22 will get 100euro. How did they work that out? Also, it's stupd that people already on the dole and under 24 will remain on the same amount but those who lose their job and apply from january will be possiblly getting up to half that amount.:eek: It's fair to say that fianna fail want the young uns to piss off out of ireland. The oldies are sure to keep fianna fail in when the next election comes around.

CrazyRabbit · 10-12-2009 08:08PM

Lola Uneven Rudder wrote: »

Less of the grammar jibes lads, this isn't an exam.

Is it wrong to expect a person to at least have the grammatically skills and spelling ability of a 10 year old child before making a post?

As for the nature of the budget cuts, discrimination is hardly something new in our society.

Gay couples lack the same tax status as hetero couples
Single Mothers vs married couples.
Over 50's/60's not hired purely due to age.
...the list goes on.

Irish Youngsters being discremiated agianst?

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