All Estate Names to be in Irish

kpbdublin · 06-12-2009 07:11PM

This is blinkered and narrow-minded. In the past roads were named after naval battles, generals, kings, queens, astronauts, war of independence terrorists, and ultra catholic lunatics. Why should it only be open to gaelgoir zealots now?

monkeypants · 06-12-2009 08:12PM

Fianna Fail have been bringing up various ideas about restoring Irish since...Fianna Fail was founded. Nothing has worked thus far, I'm sure this one will be a winner. :rolleyes:

OxfordComma · 06-12-2009 09:05PM

*Facepalm*

I really don't see the point of giving estates bizarre Irish names that no-one can pronounce properly. No amount of initiatives such as this will make people speak Irish instead of English, and it's naive and foolish to think this decision's going to have any impact at all on the speaking of Irish.

Blazer · 06-12-2009 09:12PM

I vote for all those estates with yummy mummies to be named "Sraid na Bosca Te".

All the estates with horny young uns to be called "Sraid na Bosca fliuch"

All estates with the chavvy wimmin to be called "Sraid na Bosca salach"

phasers · 06-12-2009 10:10PM

Why can't people name their estates whatever they want?

If I ever build houses I'm calling the estate "Seinfeld" and there's nothing anybody can do about it

Prof.Badass · 06-12-2009 10:43PM

I have to say I'm pretty angered about this :mad:.

Do these people honestly see forcing people to use one or two irish words as a success for the irish language?

"I am sure that this initiative will increase the use of the national language in this our capital city,”

Are they so arrogant that they don't value freedom even the tiniest bit? or are they just complete idiots who said "that sounds like a good idea" without thinking it through?

Dickheads.

Whosbetter? · 06-12-2009 10:51PM

vinylmesh wrote: »

Are they so arrogant that they don't value freedom even the tiniest bit? or are they just complete idiots who said "that sounds like a good idea" without thinking it through?

Dickheads.

You can sing that!

Those Irish Language Fanatics couldn't care less how much time, effort & (our!) money is fired at their pet project.

They're a great bunch, aren't they?:rolleyes:

mink_man · 06-12-2009 10:54PM

holy moly

blackbetty69 · 06-12-2009 11:29PM

this disgusts me to be honest with you, shocking stuff.. absolutly disgraceful

Mars Bar · 07-12-2009 12:46AM

I'm yet to hear a foreigner saying their address in Irish, can't wait for the day I do coz it's got to be funny.

That's about the only positive I get from this.

One estate in Gort is called "The Punchbowl". Anyone care to translate for me please? Just outta curiosity really...

K-9 · 07-12-2009 01:07AM

phasers wrote: »

Why can't people name their estates whatever they want?

If I ever build houses I'm calling the estate "Seinfeld" and there's nothing anybody can do about it

I thought that was a stupid idea, but when you have dozens of Bentley Manors all over the place, yours wins!

sdanseo · 07-12-2009 01:11AM

Iris Cool Wineglass wrote: »

it's a fúcking stupid ugly language, i don't want to have to speak it.
pardon my ignorance Irish government.

It's a lovely language, it's just some people didn't bother their arse paying attention to it during their 14 years of consecutive schooling in the subject (unless you're a foreigner/dyslexic/otherwise exempt)

Amalgam · 07-12-2009 01:25AM

I don't have an issue with the language itself, it's just a language, one I don't use, but legislating\forcing this on people, by *local* government is a kick in the balls for many. Will the English be visible alongside the Irish?

Why complicate my life, complicate your own..

It's only a matter of time before an ambulance chaser will make money on the back of this..

thebman · 07-12-2009 01:38AM

sdonn wrote: »

It's a lovely language, it's just some people didn't bother their arse paying attention to it during their 14 years of consecutive schooling in the subject (unless you're a foreigner/dyslexic/otherwise exempt)

Why would I memorize that crap when I could memorize something useful?

gaeilgegrinds · 07-12-2009 02:15AM

Is the case in Galway. I think it sort of did work in that any of the newcomers to Ireland I know now know what their estate name means. Not saying many of the Irish do. Most of the names don't make any less sense than the English ones might I add, not saying they make more sense but the definetely don't make any less!

kowloon · 07-12-2009 05:44AM

The place I live in is named after one of Cromwells generals; would it be in the interest of Irish culture to give the place an Irish name irrelevant to its history?

me_right_one · 07-12-2009 05:48AM

kowloon wrote: »

The place I live in is named after one of Cromwells generals; would it be in the interest of Irish culture to give the place an Irish name irrelevant to its history?

No it wouldnt. Thats exactly the point. It should just be called whatever its called now - As Gaeilge. Like Dun na nGall, doon of the foreigners.

07-12-2009 05:55AM

kowloon wrote: »

I wonder what the result of a vote on this would be, or does 'culture' take precedence?

How about a poll?

Should the Irish language be artificially propped up at cost or allowed to develop by itself as language has tended to do over the last few millennia?

Irish has hardly developed by itself, it was official policy to eradicate it in the 19th century.

07-12-2009 07:19AM

994 wrote: »

Irish has hardly developed by itself, it was official policy to eradicate it in the 19th century.

Not exactly true, it was in the 17 & 18th century, but in the 19th century the people chose to switch themselves.

monkeypants · 07-12-2009 08:40AM

Make sure the postmen (and women) get the schooling first or no one's getting any post.

neil_hosey · 07-12-2009 08:56AM

great to see in my opinion. Theres more and more kids speaking the language every year with the introduction of the new Gaelscoileanna.

Its small things like this that are needed to kickstart a resurgence of the language..

tir gan teanga, tir gan anam

monkeypants · 07-12-2009 09:27AM

Maybe there are more people speaking it in school, but I've yet to hear anyone speaking Irish on a street.

AckwelFoley · 07-12-2009 09:36AM

Couldnt give a fiddlers..

.. however there is a yank from boston in our eatate wanted to petition the council to change the name of the estate to something in english.. because neither himself or his Thai bride are irish. He wanted to call it "Boston Bay"

He can suck my dick.

I'd rather have it called Queens road

W.B. Yeats · 07-12-2009 09:40AM

How is this allowed to stray so far off topic?
Strange that the normally vigilant Mods have left this one go.

Back to the original topic

I think its a good idea, I'd much prefer to live somewhere that the place name actually has relevance to the area. The estate I live in is named after a big mission house in the area which had an Irish name. I wouldn't be against it though if an estate was named as Bearla if there was a good historical reason for having an English name on an estate though.

I don't see how it will cost anything? There are plenty of folks around that would be more than happy to submit names as Gaeilge for free.
Any half decent developer would see the marketing opportunity of having a competition to name his new estate.

monkeypants · 07-12-2009 09:43AM

I'm sure that people with certain addresses would be happy enough to see changes made.

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celticbest · 07-12-2009 09:51AM

Iris Cool Wineglass wrote: »

it's a fúcking stupid ugly language, i don't want to have to speak it.
pardon my ignorance Irish government.

If while living in éire you have a problem with people using Irish then you should leave the country. The only reason all people on this island don't speak our native language is because a foreign language was forced upon us.

The more we use our native language the better even if it's only for place names.

Bonito · 07-12-2009 09:58AM

what's the deal with every single road being labeled now? Yano the new ones all starting with a L

for example L1234

getz · 07-12-2009 10:02AM

its strange but not that long ago i was reading a book on dublin, and in it it stated that half the road names that have been doubled in irish over the years are not correct ,and they hope that any new irish road names would be written correctly ,

Bonito · 07-12-2009 10:06AM

mars bar wrote: »

I'm yet to hear a foreigner saying their address in Irish, can't wait for the day I do coz it's got to be funny.

That's about the only positive I get from this.

One estate in Gort is called "The Punchbowl". Anyone care to translate for me please? Just outta curiosity really...

Well yano the way it gives the irish translation of the estate under the english (or maybe that's just where I live)

If they change all estates to irish all the have to do is on the first line have the estate name, then second line where they had the irish transaltion just a pro-nun-see-a-shun line

07-12-2009 10:21AM

snyper wrote: »

Couldnt give a fiddlers..

.. however there is a yank from boston in our eatate wanted to petition the council to change the name of the estate to something in english.. because neither himself or his Thai bride are irish. He wanted to call it "Boston Bay"

He can suck my dick.

I'd rather have it called Queens road

Quietly remind him that Boston is an English name.

All Estate Names to be in Irish

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