All Estate Names to be in Irish

Four-Percent wrote: »

Anyone who has ever been to a gaeltacht has, anyone who has accidently turned the telly to TG4 has, and anyone who has accidently stuck on RNaG has. Not to mention the people who actually do these things on purpose :O
True but they don't exactly hear Irish day-to-day (Well I guess some people do but thats not a lot of people from what I can see)



Maybe if, thanks to this self-same points race, you made an effort for your Irish oral you'd be able to hold a conversation in Irish. But then, you'd have to listen to Irish being spoken properly for that so I suppose that's not an option for ya
My Irish oral is in about 15 months so I haven't not made an effort (Yet)





Hm, that's not a bad idea actually. Although it shouldn't be basic Irish since people have been learning it since junior infants.The standard should be markedly higher than LC French/German/Spanish if the literature section would be dropped. Maybe just make the exam one paper?
Yes but in primary school its not really examined, most people who don't do too well in it just try and ignore it so their Irish ends up pretty poor. They should reduce the test to one paper and get rid of the literature. They should put more focus on the Oral exam.



it's the same in english for so many people too. What are you trying to say here? Oral and Aural work (Giggidy ) are important in the curriculum too.I had one oral class, one aural class and maybe 4 written classes a week back in the day.Pre-written essays were hardly "All that anyone is taught", and in any case they are a fantastic way of improving vocabulary and fluency (in any language)
A lot of people learn off pre-written essays for Irish, Some do for english aswell but its nowhere near as much. I have at the moment 5 classes a week completely dedicated to poetry but its rotated every midterm so after christmas I think we'll be going back to aiste/scéal writing. Hardly anyone will remember a single word of what they learned for their leaving cert Irish exam because a big chunk of it is completely useless for holding day-to-day conversation. No one needs to be able to talk to someone else about the imagery or metre of a poem.

dlofnep wrote: »

The language is not dead.

It has a rich history and a strong base of natural words. English is the most bastardised language in the world, taking loan words from nearly every language there is, including Irish. So what if Irish, like every other language in the world has loan words for new technologies?

So firstly, your basis for it being stupid was that television became teilifís. Now it's because it uses a few loan words like every other language that exists. So what is it? Make up your mind.

PirateShampoo wrote: »

The language isn't dead, it just need to be taught better in schools. They need to make it a non points subject and needs to be taught from the moment you enter school so it can be used in every day use.

But changing estate names is a pointless money wasting exercise. I think people should feel proud about speaking there native language, but its been approached all wrong in this country.