Political correctness gone mad!

Some further googling turns up this site: http://www.youngvoicesconcerts.com/ which is obviously down wid da kidz in da h00d because it has a Facebook thingie and even a YouTube link.

So what we seem to have here is a British entertainment agency, which makes its money by persuading teachers to teach songs to their classes. Then it gets lots of the teachers to bring their charges to a single large venue, where they all sing together to the assembled thousands of mummies, daddies and grannies, all of whom are paying for the privilege. And then it sells CDs and DVDs of the joyous occasion to the said mummies, daddies and grannies.

Now, I'm sure that the chappies running this, er, educational endeavour are right-minded chappies who have all the sensibilities proper to their station. But I see no evidence that they are driven by political correctness, afraid of recent immigrants to ireland or indeed interested in Ireland in any way — apart from persuading lots of mummies, daddies and grannies to shell out to attend their concerts and to buy CDs and DVDs afterwards. In fact, given that they do the same thing all over HM Realm, it seems likely that their decision to avoid Christmas and Christian songs, and to offer a "pop medley" instead, has nothing whatsoever to do with recent immigrants to ireland or even with non-Christian Irish citizens. I might even suggest that they saw a market opportunity in adding Muslim, Jewish and other children to their massed choirs — and their mummies, daddies and grannies to their audiences.

But that is speculation. So far there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever that anyone in Ireland, native or immigrant, asked the organisers to avoid Christian and Christmas songs. Nor is there any evidence that the original complainant to the Voice of the Nation (who had no children affected by the matter) did anything to check out the situation. And there is no evidence that the complainant was over-eager in leaping at the opportunity to attack Muslim or other immigrants in the interests of soi-disant Christian religion.

bjg

Lets just drop the pretense and recognise all public holidays for what they are, piss up days. By using this designation going forth we can offend none but non drinkers and sure arn't they used to being ignored anyway....

But seriously....Ireland...HARDEN THE FUCK UP!

opinion guy wrote: »

NO, this didn't happen! I was actually listening to this. The actual story was that its an annual concert attended by school kids from around the country. In the past it was a Christmas themed thing but they'e moved away from that now. Some ****ing old codger busy body who doesn't even have kids in primary school anymore rang up because he heard about it from another parent. Yes the people ringing up weren't even affected by this. They were giving out because not only were Christian songs removed, but also non-Christian songs like Rudolph the red nosedrein deer etc etc. The organisers said as posted previously that they removed these songs after complaints by parents in previous years who were offended. NOTE THEY DID NOT SAY THEY WERE FOREIGN OR OF DIFFERENT RELIGIONS. So they could just as easily have been lapsed catholic or atheist Irish parents. The old codger busybodies ringing up just assumed they were forr-den and assumed they were muslim or whatever and went on a rant - with lots of "I'm not a racist but...." type pretenses.


And frankly it just gave a voice to Irish closet racism since so far as we know it was Irish ex-Catholics who asked for the changes.

So it was really Bill O'Reilly types screaming "liberal, pinko, Commie, pc'ers" then?

These types usually don't analyse the situation, just rant so Joe Duffy sounds just right.

ScumLord wrote: »

It is my right to dismantle the evil catholic church in any manner I see fit. That evil must be purged from this land

You've a point. Purge them and let them earn our respect.

ScumLord wrote: »

In fairness that's never going to happen. Where's me pitch fork!

20 Years ago where we are now was unthinkable!

K-9 wrote: »

20 Years ago where we are now was unthinkable!

That's only because those people were stupid. We're infinitely more smarter than them was! Can't find a pitch fork, I have a shovel though.

I'm with the OP
For he spake the truth.

As for the rest of the noobs who wanted 'evidence' of what he wrote.. go piss off to PC hell.

I had to pay €55 euros last week to see the doc.
While my Nigerian FRIEND across the waiting room with her clan of now Irish passport holders got herself and her 2 out of her 3 kids seen for FREE. I'm not minted. I had to take a half day to see the doc pay him then shell out €55 euros for my prescription.
What did she pay NADA. Now that sucks eggs!

Why am I paying for her when I can hardly pay for myself?

Besides that fact she and her clan were the best dressed in the waiting room. Then she drove away in her Micra that had more hits than Elvis by the look of the state of it.
Its crazy. Unfair. And the government welcome all these people with open arms whilst the rest of us struggle to make ends meet.

I know I've gone off the OP's original posting a bit and sorry about that.
But I too was listening to Joe Duffys show that day.
I hold 2 points of view. Who gives a flying **** about christmas carols?
and on the other hand I thought 'WHEN IN ROME' ..
If these people want to be welcomed into our country and reside with us.
Bloody well integrate with us, be friendly. You dont have to sing our carols, but we should'nt have to curb how we live, celebrate our customs to facilitate YE.

Rant over.
PS Dont bother highlighting parts of my post with anal responses like
I ASSUME YOUR THIS OR THAT

I dont care what you think
Its merely MY point of view
and I'm entitled to it.
Its called FREE SPEECH. Deal with it.:D

ascanbe wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IYx4Bc6_eE

That’s as good a rebuff of the tired “PC gone made” refrain that I have heard. While the term itself is relatively modern, the philosophy behind it has been going on for a very long time and might loosely be viewed as a progression towards a greater degree of civilization. It is because of this philosophy that acceptable practices amongst mankind (sorry humankind! ) in the past are no longer tolerated. We have elevated our regard for human life. In relatively recent human history you would be hung for stealing a sheep. If the term PC had been around when women were given the vote in democracies, you would no doubt have heard the “gone made” bleating then too. Similarly when moves were made against those who sought to subjugate people based on their skin colour or religion or sexual orientation etc. Political correctness is just a modern term for our eternal quest to be more civil. And yes of course certain demands by its advocates in particular times and places will strike people as ridiculous and excessive (for what its worth, I do not believe that singing Christmas carols or erecting cribs, even in public buildings, should be suppressed, indeed I get rather annoyed when such things are suggested). But that is not a reason to abandon our quest to make the world a less harsh place, a philosophy which has benefited us all.

glynn888 wrote: »

dont complain about them ! after all they live in rented houses and apartments owned by who? teachers , guards, hse workers , remember its in their interest to keep them here, rememeber if they were not housed for free got free money and cars etc, Ireland would not be an attractive place for them . its not the weather anyway!

Free cars?:rolleyes:

lugha wrote: »

I can assure you it is not a myth. How do I know? Well, I challenged a chap once to outline the proof he had that some Nigerians get free cars from the state. It went like this. A relative of his knew someone who went down to social welfare one day. There was a Nigerian chap there and when he was been dealt with by staff, they took him into an office and discussed his affairs with him in private and out of ear shot of everybody else. Ergo, social welfare was clearly giving him his free car. And no, I am not making this up

Was it the dole office or the HSE as in the Community Welfare officer?