How much of the Irish National Anthem Do You know?

LizT · 03-12-2009 02:59AM

cloneslad wrote: »

I felt even prouder when we sang Irelands call

No, I thought they looked their most determined when they sang our NATIONAL anthem. Think the whole 2 anthem thing is a bit stupid, but I understand why they did it.

cloneslad · 03-12-2009 03:09AM

lizt wrote: »

No, I thought they looked their most determined when they sang our NATIONAL anthem. Think the whole 2 anthem thing is a bit stupid, but I understand why they did it.

Look at any footage from before a game, I can guarantee you at least a 1/3 of the players don't sing "our national (NATIONAL) anthem". You think two anthems was stupid? So do I, which is why I like when only Ireland's call is played away from home, why have amhrián na bhfiann anyway? it's not the republic of ireland rugby team so it shouldn't be the republic of ireland national anthem....they may as well play god save the queen if that's the case.

Anyway, we are totally off topic here

03-12-2009 03:24AM

..Seo libh canaídh Amhrán na bhFiann.

And all that's before it.

siltirocker · 03-12-2009 05:52AM

cloneslad wrote: »

Look at any footage from before a game, I can guarantee you at least a 1/3 of the players don't sing "our national (NATIONAL) anthem". You think two anthems was stupid? So do I, which is why I like when only Ireland's call is played away from home, why have amhrián na bhfiann anyway? it's not the republic of ireland rugby team so it shouldn't be the republic of ireland national anthem....they may as well play god save the queen if that's the case.

Anyway, we are totally off topic here

They do in ravenshill.
The reason a 1/3 of them don't sing it is for the same reason a third here don't know it and Paddy Wallace, Best & Ferris.

Im sorry to thread on you but a song written by Phil Coulter in English in 1995, is not our national anthem. Why you are even mentioning it in this thread is ludicrious. Does it remind you of 1798? Easter 1916? It isn't even sang by half the crowd at home games.

Pride Fighter · 03-12-2009 05:55AM

The first line is sinne laochra fail. I'll never utter the words of the least patriotic, most selfish, corrupt political party on this island.

starbelgrade · 03-12-2009 06:08AM

Shin a fianna fail, ata fiunn al ag eiearnn, buin dair slow, blah blah blah balh blah na heireannn, caid abhfuil dul amach de dul aguibh na letherais, blah blah blah balh blag blah blaithenah.... dah, dah, etc.

grenache · 03-12-2009 08:16AM

I know all the main chorus in Irish and English. Was taught the Irish bit in school and learnt the English version later myself. Its truly shocking the amount of people who don't know it or don't bother singing it at sports events. We are truly lacking in national pride us Irish :mad:

cloneslad · 03-12-2009 10:59AM

siltirocker wrote: »

They do in ravenshill.
The reason a 1/3 of them don't sing it is for the same reason a third here don't know it and Paddy Wallace, Best & Ferris. .

Prior to Ulster games, They don't sing god save the queen in ravenhill. I am an ulster supporter and I go to ravenhill to watch them play and I have never heard it being played there, even before the heinekin (sp) cup game last season against stad francais.]

I know they used to sing god save the queen in ravenhill for ireland games before 95 but that's because they didn't have an anthem for the island, they do now so when Ireland play in ravenhill (which isn't very often anymore due to our massive support and few seats in ravenhill) they only play ireland's call there.

siltirocker wrote: »

Im sorry to thread on you but a song written by Phil Coulter in English in 1995, is not our national anthem. Why you are even mentioning it in this thread is ludicrious. Does it remind you of 1798? Easter 1916? It isn't even sang by half the crowd at home games.

I mentioned it in a previous post because I think it's a better song for the island than one which focuses on wars (which we lost btw) I know it tells of our history but it does little to encourage positive relationships with northern ireland and help us create a sense unity on the island.

All rugby fans (well, all I know and these are ulster, munster, connacht and leinster, I can't say everyone) sing Ireland's call. It's people who started supporting Ireland in recent years that knew little of rugby and go to watch the games because they are played in the holy grail that is croke park that don't belt the song out before a match. I was at the south africa game on saturday and there was a much larger number of people singing it than singing amhrán na Bhfainn. (even though the words were not constantly on the big screen like they were for amhrán na bhfainn)

jackthelad321 · 03-12-2009 11:10AM

all of it, though it makes no sense as to how

Deedsie · 03-12-2009 11:32AM

cloneslad wrote: »

Look at any footage from before a game, I can guarantee you at least a 1/3 of the players don't sing "our national (NATIONAL) anthem". You think two anthems was stupid? So do I, which is why I like when only Ireland's call is played away from home, why have amhrián na bhfiann anyway? it's not the republic of ireland rugby team so it shouldn't be the republic of ireland national anthem....they may as well play god save the queen if that's the case.

Anyway, we are totally off topic here

Will you go away, more of the rugby lads sing Amhran na Bhfiann. Its Irelands call that is sang by less of the players. Id never sing it either. I dont know what you are watching.

cloneslad · 03-12-2009 06:20PM

Deedsie wrote: »

Will you go away, more of the rugby lads sing Amhran na Bhfiann. Its Irelands call that is sang by less of the players. Id never sing it either. I dont know what you are watching.

You're probably only someone who has jumped on the rugby bandwagon in recent years. Tipp wouldn't be renowned for being a massive rugby area. I have been playing rugby since I was 10 and watching it before that, I know what I'm talking about.

Once again, another thread has gone off topic from people who think they are the most irish person on the planet.

Baile an Locha · 03-12-2009 06:47PM

All of it and not just the popular verse,
National Pride and all that,

siltirocker · 03-12-2009 10:11PM

cloneslad wrote: »

Prior to Ulster games, They don't sing god save the queen in ravenhill. I am an ulster supporter and I go to ravenhill to watch them play and I have never heard it being played there, even before the heinekin (sp) cup game last season against stad francais.]

Wasn't on about Ulster, games i meant internationals.

[QUOTE=cloneslad;63315784 know they used to sing god save the queen in ravenhill for ireland games before 95 but that's because they didn't have an anthem for the island, they do now so when Ireland play in ravenhill (which isn't very often anymore due to our massive support and few seats in ravenhill) they only play ireland's call there.
[/QUOTE]

Fair enough.

[QUOTE=cloneslad;63315784 mentioned it in a previous post because I think it's a better song for the island than one which focuses on wars (which we lost btw) I know it tells of our history but it does little to encourage positive relationships with northern ireland and help us create a sense unity on the island.[/QUOTE]

This is not for the island, the url here says ".ie" and we are discussing the Republic's national anthem not a song about the island.
"which we lost"- im pretty sure we won our independence. :rolleyes:

Northern Ireland has nothing to do with the Republic of Ireland's national anthem.

[QUOTE=cloneslad;63315784 All rugby fans (well, all I know and these are ulster, munster, connacht and leinster, I can't say everyone) sing Ireland's call. It's people who started supporting Ireland in recent years that knew little of rugby and go to watch the games because they are played in the holy grail that is croke park that don't belt the song out before a match. I was at the south africa game on saturday and there was a much larger number of people singing it than singing amhrán na Bhfainn. (even though the words were not constantly on the big screen like they were for amhrán na bhfainn)[/QUOTE]

My grandfather is the president of a AIL division 2 club and i can tell you right now, himself and their committee sit during Ireland's Call. As did a host of people did around me at Lansdowne Road pre-2007 renovations.

El Siglo · 03-12-2009 10:15PM

Dancor wrote: »

This town is coming like a ghost town
This town is coming like a ghost town
This town is coming like a ghost town
This town is coming like a ghost town

FYP:D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZ2oXzrnti4

deisedude · 03-12-2009 10:28PM

I know the main chorus thanks to the auld Gah games

TheRealist · 03-12-2009 10:31PM

What's the gist of it in English anyway??

byhookorbycrook · 03-12-2009 11:07PM

Gran Hermano wrote: »

All of it, I blame several summers in Irish college as a sprog in the 80's.

I may well have taught you, which places?

cloneslad · 03-12-2009 11:18PM

I want to settle something now, I didn't say Ireland's call was our national anthem, I just prefer it to our national anthem.

siltirocker wrote: »

This is not for the island, the url here says ".ie" and we are discussing the Republic's national anthem not a song about the island.
"which we lost"- im pretty sure we won our independence. :rolleyes:

Northern Ireland has nothing to do with the Republic of Ireland's national anthem.

That whole quote is an oxymoron. We won our independence but Northern Ireland has nothing to do with the republic of Ireland's national anthem??? Think about it, if we had won there would be no Northern Ireland. I live about 500 metres from the border and many will tell you that up until 10 years ago we had little independence up here and it was a chore going back and forth over the border and through checkpoints. It's okay down in Tipp, it's all roses and champagne down there with your independence

siltirocker wrote: »

My grandfather is the president of a AIL division 2 club and i can tell you right now, himself and their committee sit during Ireland's Call. As did a host of people did around me at Lansdowne Road pre-2007 renovations.

I'm not going to call you a liar............but you are perhaps misinformed. The IRFU asked for the song to be composed and it has been adopted into the team quite easily by the entire rugby community (although some of my mates sing three proud provinces to annoy me cos I'm from ulster, the ironic thing is these lads are from semi-pro connacht :cool:)

If in fact your grandad and other refused to stand for it, then it shows your lack of support for a sport being played by the island. It's Ireland's song, not the republic of Ireland's song, I wouldn't be happy to stand for god save the queen so I think it's unfair to expect some of the Ulster players to only have Amhrán na bhFiann.

cloneslad · 03-12-2009 11:21PM

TheRealist wrote: »

What's the gist of it in English anyway??

As Béarla :P

Soldiers are we,
whose lives are pledged to Ireland,
Some have come
from a land beyond the wave,
Sworn to be free,
no more our ancient sireland,
Shall shelter the despot or the slave.
Tonight we man the "bearna baoil",
In Erin’s cause, come woe or weal,
’Mid cannon’s roar and rifles’ peal,
We’ll chant a soldier’s song

Courtesy of wikipedia

TheRealist · 03-12-2009 11:31PM

Nice one. Thought it would be more violent....

cloneslad · 03-12-2009 11:36PM

TheRealist wrote: »

Nice one. Thought it would be more violent....

oooops.....full version, stupid wikipedia

We'll sing a song, a soldier's song
With cheering rousing chorus
As round our blazing fires we throng
The starry heavens o'er us
Impatient for the coming fight
And as we wait the morning's light
Here in the silence of the night
We'll chant a soldier's song

Soldiers are we
whose lives are pledged to Ireland
Some have come
from a land beyond the wave
Sworn to be free
No more our ancient sire land
Shall shelter the despot or the slave
Tonight we man the gap of danger
In Erin's cause, come woe or weal
'Mid cannons' roar and rifles peal
We'll chant a soldier's song

In valley green, on towering crag
Our fathers fought before us
And conquered 'neath the same old flag
That's proudly floating o'er us
We're children of a fighting race
That never yet has known disgrace
And as we march, the foe to face
We'll chant a soldier's song

chorus

Sons of the Gael! Men of the Pale!
The long watched day is breaking
The serried ranks of Inisfail
Shall set the Tyrant quaking
Our camp fires now are burning low
See in the east a silv'ry glow
Out yonder waits the Saxon foe
So chant a soldier's song

chorus

mahamageehad · 03-12-2009 11:59PM

Ya need an option for just the first and last lines!!!

piby · 04-12-2009 12:00AM

I keep meaning to learn the whole thing but never seem to get round to it. We actually spent a week learning it in Transition year Irish but I missed most of those classes

Agricola · 04-12-2009 01:13AM

C'MOOOooooooOOOOOONNNnnnn IRELAND!

siltirocker · 04-12-2009 02:07AM

cloneslad wrote: »

I want to settle something now, I didn't say Ireland's call was our national anthem, I just prefer it to our national anthem.

Fair enough, i prefer 'Fields of Athenry' to our national anthem. What it has to do with anything is beyond me.

cloneslad wrote: »

That whole quote is an oxymoron. We won our independence but Northern Ireland has nothing to do with the republic of Ireland's national anthem??? Think about it, if we had won there would be no Northern Ireland. I live about 500 metres from the border and many will tell you that up until 10 years ago we had little independence up here and it was a chore going back and forth over the border and through checkpoints. It's okay down in Tipp, it's all roses and champagne down there with your independence

Im not from Tipp or anywhere near Tipp.
In your opinion we did not win our war of independence, we lost. Read that sentence again dude. You said it not me.

"Seantir ar sinsear feasta" that is Northern Ireland in Amhran na bhFiann nothing more. Northern Ireland is a different country that share's our island.

cloneslad wrote: »

not going to call you a liar............but you are perhaps misinformed. The IRFU asked for the song to be composed and it has been adopted into the team quite easily by the entire rugby community (although some of my mates sing three proud provinces to annoy me cos I'm from ulster, the ironic thing is these lads are from semi-pro connacht :cool:)

Bigwigs, small minds. The IRFU did commision the song, i never said they didn't to sing at sporting events of Ireland (Northern & Republic). It is not an anthem, its a song and what it has to do with how much of Amhran na bhFiann you have decided not to be bothered with, i have no idea.

cloneslad wrote: »

If in fact your grandad and other refused to stand for it, then it shows your lack of support for a sport being played by the island. It's Ireland's song, not the republic of Ireland's song, I wouldn't be happy to stand for god save the queen so I think it's unfair to expect some of the Ulster players to only have Amhrán na bhFiann.

Is that why they've been investing time, money and love into it since decades before we where born? No, its shows their lack of interest for a Phil Coulter song from the mid-ninties. And i never argued the principle of it, i agree it is completly unfair to suggest the Northern Irish sing Amhran na bhFiann. What im trying to get across is my shock that you consider a song written by Phil Coulter in 1995 commisioned by the IRFU for rugby matches your national anthem above (in prefernce anyway) Amhran na bhFiann.

cloneslad · 04-12-2009 02:25AM

siltirocker wrote: »

Fair enough, i prefer 'Fields of Athenry' to our national anthem. What it has to do with anything is beyond me. .

Don't like that song much myself, don't mind it as it is meant to be sung, but not with the republican chants thrown in for a bit of added biggotry

siltirocker wrote: »

Im not from Tipp or anywhere near Tipp.

Sorry, thought you were "deedsie" as I was conversing with him prior to you commenting.

siltirocker wrote: »

In your opinion we did not win our war of independence, we lost. Read that sentence again dude. You said it not me.

I know exactly what I said. Do you know what an oxymoron is? You speak about winning our wars, we didn't win them, we lost in 1916, independence (for 26 of our 32 counties) was granted years after the uprising and as for 1798, well that was a bit of a non starter (ah the french, one thing you can rely on is for them to surrender...or handle a ball)

siltirocker wrote: »

"Seantir ar sinsear feasta" that is Northern Ireland in Amhran na bhFiann nothing more. Northern Ireland is a different country that share's our island.

Perhaps we share their Island? But, seriously, you claim we won independence but claim northern ireland as a seperate country...so how have the republicans in the north had their independence granted to them?

siltirocker wrote: »

It is not an anthem, its a song and what it has to do with how much of Amhran na bhFiann you have decided not to be bothered with, i have no idea.

Never said it was our anthem, just said it should have been

siltirocker wrote: »

What im trying to get across is my shock that you consider a song written by Phil Coulter in 1995 commisioned by the IRFU for rugby matches your national anthem above (in prefernce anyway) Amhran na bhFiann.

I know it's not our national anthem, but at the end of the day they are both only songs, one was chosen almost a century ago, and one was chosen 15 years ago, both got selected and used. who is to say we won't change our anthem in the future to perhaps reflect our recent history, such as the good friday agreement or the possible reunification of the island (if that ever happens)

siltirocker · 04-12-2009 05:15PM

I'm sick of this. You are not reading my posts correctly. Forcing me to defend points i never made. 1916? 1798? Im just saying that's what the lyrics remind me of, nothing to do with independence.

Me, an oxymoron? You claim you lost your war of independence, yet you live in a republic, that was under foriegn rule (regardless of the situation a couple of miles up the road).

""Perhaps we share their Island? But, seriously, you claim we won independence but claim northern ireland as a seperate country...so how have the republicans in the north had their independence granted to them?"" - They haven't. The point i made was you said we lost our war of independence, we didn't. We won independence, granted at a comprise, but we certainly didn't lose, which is what you said. That's all.

We really shot off topic in a big way. I was just simple shocked that you consider Ireland's Call (a Phil Coulter song commisioned for rugby matches in 1995) your national anthem, above, well, your national anthem (which you stated in your first post). That's it.

Say hi to all in Monaghan.

cloneslad · 04-12-2009 05:28PM

siltirocker wrote: »

We really shot off topic in a big way. I was just simple shocked that you consider Ireland's Call your national anthem. That's it..

Everyone can have their own opinions if you wanted a daniel o donnell song as yours I wouldn't judge you......well maybe I would but that's just cos it's daniel o donnell

siltirocker wrote: »

Say hi to all in Monaghan.

GAA and murder she wrote fan has heard of clones, puts two and two together!!

Either that or you have read previous posts of mine elsewhere. I have only lived 18 years of my life in clones, the rest have not been spent there (mind you, i'm only 25).

Oh and I'm from clones, not from Monaghan. We are our own little independent state

Mike 1972 · 04-12-2009 05:37PM

Only National anthems I know the words of are of contries which no longer exist or Dont exist yet

cloneslad wrote: »

See in the east a silv'ry glow
Out yonder waits the Saxon foe
So chant a soldier's song

The thing Id like to know is what have we got against Saxony ?

cloneslad · 04-12-2009 06:32PM

siltirocker wrote: »

I'm sick of this. You are not reading my posts correctly. Forcing me to defend points i never made. 1916? 1798? Im just saying that's what the lyrics remind me of, nothing to do with independence.

Me, an oxymoron? You claim you lost your war of independence, yet you live in a republic, that was under foriegn rule (regardless of the situation a couple of miles up the road).

""Perhaps we share their Island? But, seriously, you claim we won independence but claim northern ireland as a seperate country...so how have the republicans in the north had their independence granted to them?"" - They haven't. The point i made was you said we lost our war of independence, we didn't. We won independence, granted at a comprise, but we certainly didn't lose, which is what you said. That's all.

We really shot off topic in a big way. I was just simple shocked that you consider Ireland's Call (a Phil Coulter song commisioned for rugby matches in 1995) your national anthem, above, well, your national anthem (which you stated in your first post). That's it.

Say hi to all in Monaghan.

A mad bit of editing there by you after I had replied to your comment!!

I only moved back to a republic a couple of months ago, prior to that I was living in the United Kingdom, using money with the queens head, paying taxes to a different government, careful when driving in miles per hour, paying 15% vat and a host of other things and this part of the united kingdom is connected to us

Try telling me again how we won these two wars you spoke off previously?? we didn't, we clearly lost both of 1916 and 1798, that you cannot argue, but we gained independence in 1921 thanks to a seperate war which went on for the two years prior to it. Had we have totally demolished the brits in this one, do you think they would still be hanging on to 6 counties now??

Edit: I'm not some spotty teenager looking to argue with you over this. Just replying to the arguement put forth by you. I honestly don't care about gaining the rest of northern ireland back, it's would just cause too much hassle and we couldn't afford to have it anyway, you know how many people up there are on the dole?? it would cripple our economy even further

How much of the Irish National Anthem Do You know?

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