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Google in hot water over "Michelle Obama" image search results

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  • #32
    shqipshume
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,193 ✭✭✭shqipshume


    AnonoBoy wrote: »
    I'm sure she'd love to hear you found that picture of Michelle Obama so funny. Go tell her and see if she's agrees with you.

    She would and she does,she like alot of the others laugh them off,because why should they be sitting contemplating and worrying about the remarks of idiots.
    I never said i found it funny(Where did you see that statement) i just said who cares let them say what they want and do what they want,and ignore it and carry on.


  • #33
    AnonoBoy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    shqipshume wrote: »
    She would and she does,she like alot of the others laugh them off,because why should they be sitting contemplating and worrying about the remarks of idiots.
    I never said i found it funny(Where did you see that statement) i just said who cares let them say what they want and do what they want,and ignore it and carry on.

    I won't ignore racism and let people carry on with it if I can do something about it. Sorry. Not going to happen.

    I realise that you can't do something about everything or even half the things wrong that you see but I won't abide racist morons, especially the casually bigotry that is becoming more and more prevalent in Ireland.


  • #34
    shqipshume
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,193 ✭✭✭shqipshume


    AnonoBoy wrote: »
    I won't ignore racism and let people carry on with it. Sorry. Not going to happen.

    Then you shouldn't ignore insulting comments against people in life either ;)
    Da te de da :D theme music

    It only from what i have seen comes out when people are annoyed(They are not judging by skin colour even if they say Black whatever(Even if i don't agree with it) People will get angry when not respected back.And even stil will not feel animosity towards all Black people.The small few that are truly racist in Ireland is at a minimum compared to eastern European countries and continents.
    I heard a black guy shout at a man on street,you racist white trash,because he asked him to move his car politely from the path outside his house.And another black guy nearly running over a 6 year old girl as he reversed on a path outside a school.And when the mother approached him he spat in her face you white slut.


  • #35
    AnonoBoy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    shqipshume wrote: »
    Then you shouldnt ignore insulting comments against people in life either ;)
    Da te de da :D theme music


    Again, there's a huge difference between racism and general insults. Racism goes beyond the individual and has wider effects.


  • #36
    pickarooney
    Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 36,496 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    Strange, one of the most popular images doing the rounds over the last few years was a montage of George W Bush being compard directly to a monkey but that was never flagged as racist or anything more than having a laugh. Why should the incumbent president and his First Lady not have the right to the same treatment? (granted, this does assume that the photo captures the subject in a humorous pose comparable to that of a simian, which this particular image clearly fails to do).

    It's like referring to a bouncer as an ape because of his physique and implied lesser intelligence - fine unless he's black, at which point the original point is obscured because of a ridiculous perceived notion that his skin colour alone makes him an ape. He should be allowed be called an ape like anyone else.


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  • #37
    OutlawPete
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,689 ✭✭✭✭OutlawPete


    Lux23 wrote: »
    Its a horrible photo, actually made me jump out of my skin a bit when I first saw it but they can't remove it.

    They can't remove the photo - that is true. However, they can drop the website from Google like a hot potato if they wished.

    I listed my website in a business 'link directory' last year and as soon as it was next crawled by Google, my website became invisible. Nowhere, not just a worse ranking - but actually totally unfindable.

    They have complete control over which websites are crawled and which aren't. Can't understand Google not doing to this site, what they did to mine.


  • #38
    AnonoBoy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    pickarooney wrote: »
    It's like referring to a bouncer as an ape because of his physique and implied lesser intelligence - fine unless he's black, at which point the original point is obscured because of a ridiculous perceived notion that his skin colour alone makes him an ape. He should be allowed be called an ape like anyone else.

    If he's comparable to an ape and it's not being used in a racist context then that's fine.

    However if anyone can point out how Michelle Obama looks like an ape they win a bright shiny penny.


  • #39
    The Saint
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,932 ✭✭✭The Saint


    pickarooney wrote: »
    Strange, one of the most popular images doing the rounds over the last few years was a montage of George W Bush being compard directly to a monkey but that was never flagged as racist or anything more than having a laugh. Why should the incumbent president and his First Lady not have the right to the same treatment? (granted, this does assume that the photo captures the subject in a humorous pose comparable to that of a simian, which this particular image clearly fails to do).

    It's like referring to a bouncer as an ape because of his physique and implied lesser intelligence - fine unless he's black, at which point the original point is obscured because of a ridiculous perceived notion that his skin colour alone makes him an ape. He should be allowed be called an ape like anyone else.

    There are historical racist connotations of black people as apes. Think of John Barnes having bananas thrown at him while playing. Totally different IMO.

    BTW, Michelle Obama, I would.


  • #40
    omahaid
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,497 ✭✭✭omahaid


    AnonoBoy wrote: »
    If he's comparable to an ape and it's not being used in a racist context then that's fine.

    However if anyone can point out how Michelle Obama looks like an ape they win a bright shiny penny.

    You do realise the by saying that George Bush can be compared to a monkey but Michelle Obama cannot makes you the racist?


  • #41
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 18,046 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    AnonoBoy wrote: »
    However if anyone can point out how Michelle Obama looks like an ape they win a bright shiny penny.

    I may be wrong but I think it's got to do with skin colour, where's my penny?


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  • #42
    imstrongerthanu
    Closed Accounts Posts: 211 ✭✭imstrongerthanu


    https://us.v-cdn.net/6034073/uploads/attachments/282868/97167.jpg

    https://us.v-cdn.net/6034073/uploads/attachments/282868/97168.jpg

    Both look like monkeys it's hilarious.Don't see the big deal why they got google to remove it.But then again he i suppose he can remove it he is a powerful man.


  • #43
    Sir Gallagher
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,836 ✭✭✭Sir Gallagher


    shqipshume wrote: »
    Then you shouldn't ignore insulting comments against people in life either ;)
    Da te de da :D theme music

    It only from what i have seen comes out when people are annoyed(They are not judging by skin colour even if they say Black whatever(Even if i don't agree with it) People will get angry when not respected back.And even stil will not feel animosity towards all Black people.The small few that are truly racist in Ireland is at a minimum compared to eastern European countries and continents.
    I heard a black guy shout at a man on street,you racist white trash,because he asked him to move his car politely from the path outside his house.And another black guy nearly running over a 6 year old girl as he reversed on a path outside a school.And when the mother approached him he spat in her face you white slut.

    What has this got to do with anyhing, such a lame arguement, "oh black people can be racist too". When people use that arguement it kind of implies that person is trying to justify their own prejudices.
    You do realise the by saying that George Bush can be compared to a monkey but Michelle Obama cannot makes you the racist?

    Hands down the stupidest thing i've read all day.


  • #44
    shqipshume
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,193 ✭✭✭shqipshume


    Sir Gallagher wrote: »
    What has this got to do with anyhing, such a lame arguement, "oh black people can be racist too". When people use that arguement it kind of implies that person is trying to justify their own prejudices.



    Hands down the stupidest thing i've read all day.

    Meaning when people are attacked with such comments making a comment back towards said person with you black whatever a comment made under anger towards that one person.And not to a whole race ;)

    My prejudice is towards any black white Asian whatever green alien who is rude.If i said about the girl who hit me in face white trash,that is towards her,if i say to black person comment on said indiviuals skin with insult is towards that one person due to anger,That is not racist that is angry comment.
    Same as kid i know who a black girl called him white trash,And he responded in anger black b****.He got expelled she however still is in school:rolleyes:


  • #45
    DamienH
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,507 ✭✭✭DamienH


    pickarooney wrote: »
    Strange, one of the most popular images doing the rounds over the last few years was a montage of George W Bush being compard directly to a monkey but that was never flagged as racist or anything more than having a laugh. Why should the incumbent president and his First Lady not have the right to the same treatment? (granted, this does assume that the photo captures the subject in a humorous pose comparable to that of a simian, which this particular image clearly fails to do).

    It's like referring to a bouncer as an ape because of his physique and implied lesser intelligence - fine unless he's black, at which point the original point is obscured because of a ridiculous perceived notion that his skin colour alone makes him an ape. He should be allowed be called an ape like anyone else.
    Spot on.


  • #46
    AnonoBoy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    Deleted User wrote: »
    I may be wrong but I think it's got to do with skin colour, where's my penny?

    So all black people look like apes then, yeah?

    Also the penny is wedged tightly between my ass cheeks. It may not be shiny when you pull it out but you're welcome to it anyway!


  • #47
    shqipshume
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,193 ✭✭✭shqipshume


    AnonoBoy wrote: »
    So all black people look like apes then, yeah?

    Also the penny is wedged tightly between my ass cheeks. It may not be shiny when you pull it out but you're welcome to it anyway!

    I think all people look like apes :D Orangutan old man of the forest :P


  • #48
    Sir Gallagher
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,836 ✭✭✭Sir Gallagher


    DamienH wrote: »
    Strange, one of the most popular images doing the rounds over the last few years was a montage of George W Bush being compard directly to a monkey but that was never flagged as racist or anything more than having a laugh. Why should the incumbent president and his First Lady not have the right to the same treatment? (granted, this does assume that the photo captures the subject in a humorous pose comparable to that of a simian, which this particular image clearly fails to do).

    Spot on.

    Thats because it wasn't racist, it didn't have racial connotations, it was funny because George Bush looked liked a monkey and was thick, whereas the thing with Obama relates to a whole race of people based off an offensive stereotype.


  • #49
    AnonoBoy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    imstrongerthanu wrote: »
    Both look like monkeys it's hilarious.

    You do realise that the Michelle Obama picture was doctored don't you? :confused:


  • #50
    AnonoBoy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    shqipshume wrote: »
    I think all people look like apes :D Orangutan old man of the forest :P

    Look only one of you is getting the damn penny.

    Now fight for my love! FIGHT FOR IT!!!!


  • #51
    shqipshume
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,193 ✭✭✭shqipshume


    AnonoBoy wrote: »
    Look only one of you is getting the damn penny.

    Now fight for my love! FIGHT FOR IT!!!!

    ah but i win because i said all people do :(


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  • #52
    tricky D
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,698 ✭✭✭tricky D


    OutlawPete wrote: »
    They can't remove the photo - that is true. However, they can drop the website from Google like a hot potato if they wished.

    Maybe if the chinese asked them to, they might remove it.


  • #53
    allanb49
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,419 ✭✭✭allanb49


    pickarooney wrote: »
    Strange, one of the most popular images doing the rounds over the last few years was a montage of George W Bush being compard directly to a monkey but that was never flagged as racist or anything more than having a laugh. Why should the incumbent president and his First Lady not have the right to the same treatment? (granted, this does assume that the photo captures the subject in a humorous pose comparable to that of a simian, which this particular image clearly fails to do).

    It's like referring to a bouncer as an ape because of his physique and implied lesser intelligence - fine unless he's black, at which point the original point is obscured because of a ridiculous perceived notion that his skin colour alone makes him an ape. He should be allowed be called an ape like anyone else.

    +69
    You articulated exactly what i wanted to say


  • #54
    mike65
    Closed Accounts Posts: 88,968 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    google capitulate to the White House (and there was Obama talking about Chinese censoring the internet only yesterday)

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2009/nov/25/michelle-obama-google-images-removed

    edit - its still there.


  • #55
    pickarooney
    Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 36,496 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    The Saint wrote: »
    There are historical racist connotations of black people as apes.

    Which are validated and perpetuated by denouncing the comparison for some while encouraging it for others, no?


  • #56
    Sir Gallagher
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,836 ✭✭✭Sir Gallagher


    pickarooney wrote: »
    Which are validated and perpetuated by denouncing the comparison for some while encouraging it for others, no?

    Encouraging it for who?


  • #57
    LD 50
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,557 ✭✭✭LD 50


    Its gone now anyways


  • #58
    pickarooney
    Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 36,496 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    Sir Gallagher wrote: »
    Encouraging it for who?

    Dubya


  • #59
    The_Thing
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,017 ✭✭✭The_Thing


    Comparing Obama's missus to a monkey is an insult - to monkeys.


  • #60
    tech77
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,736 ✭✭✭tech77


    AnonoBoy wrote: »
    Again, there's a huge difference between racism and general insults. Racism goes beyond the individual and has wider effects.

    Reminds me of Stewart Lee's routine about Jimmy Hill's casual attitude to racism by Hill equating Ron Atkinson's racial slur to someone saying he (Hill) had a big chin.

    Lee imagines the "pain" of large-chinned people everywhere expressed through their "blues":
    "Woke up this mornin', gotta big chin".


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  • #61
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 18,046 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    AnonoBoy wrote: »
    So all black people look like apes then, yeah?

    Also the penny is wedged tightly between my ass cheeks. It may not be shiny when you pull it out but you're welcome to it anyway!

    I don't care if you call me a racist. Apes are dark brown and so are black people. Did I actually say anything racist? No.

    You asked what the connotation was between the two and there's your answer. Acting dumb about the situation doesn't make you even less of a racist.


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