Killstreaks too powerful ???

ScissorPaperRock · 17-11-2009 12:59PM

Berkut wrote: »

pft..consolers..they're all fúcking noobs...

Pft... arrogance...

Darksaga87 · 17-11-2009 01:18PM

pfft, escaping air.

jeawan · 17-11-2009 01:38PM

Soby wrote: »

Anyone used a nuke yet?

Nuke was used in a game last night pretty impressive it is kinda a game ender though the chopper were you control the gun is pretty good though.

ShadowHearth · 17-11-2009 02:52PM

Berkut wrote: »

pft..consolers..they're all fúcking noobs...

like to see someone get it on the PC...still haven't seen a nuke yet...

+1, i am rank30 and havent seen even one nuke yet on pc.

Is it me, or there is so much auto aim on xbox?! Or that fella just pure... Good?

Nuri Sahin · 17-11-2009 02:53PM

TheDoc wrote: »

Just annoying, I dont like the killstreaks at all in fairness, it takes alot away from the skill of the game, you spawn and get hit with a missile or chopper.

Sums up my opinion on Killstreaks and I regularly get Chopper Gunner before I'm told off.

No skill factor required for MW2. Unless you call some person camping to get their Killstreak a skill or talent. Which many do. In COD4 if you put the time and effort you'd become a good player .

The aspect of simplicity COD4 especially compared to MW2 makes it awesome.

If only there was a no kill/death streak mode or rule as a game type.

Br4tPr1nc3 · 17-11-2009 03:18PM

yeah ive gotten 2 already.
theyre fun.
i usually just say gg guys and call it.

Darksaga87 · 17-11-2009 03:19PM

i loved cod 5, was ok at mw. but im finding it easy to rack up kills in mw2. im not complaining as im just a casual player, ie. i dont take it seriously!

opinion guy · 17-11-2009 04:21PM

ShadowHearth wrote: »

+1, i am rank30 and havent seen even one nuke yet on pc.

Is it me, or there is so much auto aim on xbox?! Or that fella just pure... Good?

well i play on xbox and i can't aim for ****. it was waht most struck me about that video that guys aim is awesome. has me wonderinhg how to improve my aim tbh. i'm just too slow :P

I don't think its too bad for campers really. any i have seen ahve gotten taken out fairly quickly (by me if I can :P)

evad_lhorg · 18-11-2009 03:12AM

ok im getting a little annoyed trying to figure out what gets added to your kills bringing you closer to high kill streaks, and what doesnt. if I get a predator missile and my next killstreak is set up for pave low at 9 kills, if I kill 4 people with the pred will I get my pave low?

WarZoneBrother · 18-11-2009 04:50AM

ShadowHearth wrote: »

+1, i am rank30 and havent seen even one nuke yet on pc.

Is it me, or there is so much auto aim on xbox?! Or that fella just pure... Good?

I am Rank 50 on PS3 and have yet to see a nuke, although if I had it unlocked I would have used it there today as I got 30 kills 0 deaths in Free for All match...Pavelow is awesome and so is the AC 130

BlitzKrieg · 18-11-2009 06:45AM

ok factcheck

1. Anything you get from a supply drop or emergency drop DOES NOT COUNT TOWARDS YOUR KILLSTREAK if you get a predator from a crate and kill 4 people they dont count. If you earn a predator and kill 4 people they do.

2. Killstreaks are much more powerful, but also for the most part much easier to avoid. With the exception of stealth bombers, you get a warning of every killstreak (though I dont know about Nuke) and you have the ability to intercept most of them before they can do any damage or avoid them (predator's are quite easy to dodge if you start hugging walls when they get called in and there is a good 3-4 second delay before they start flying in.) Yes the chopper gunner and ac130 are the hardest to dodge or kill, but I wouldnt rate them much higher then a chopper of cod4.

3. The ability to shoot stuff down is much much stronger. Firstly everybody should know cold blooded makes you invisible to pave lows, harriers, UAV, sentry guns and choppers right? It also makes you invisible to predators, chopper gunners* and ac130's* you combine it with whatever class is your stinger class and turn to it when in serious need of AA. Cold blooded essentially counters anyone who uses killstreak call in's alot. Though how a game goes it might be better to have one of the other alternatives depending on your role so it is a price to pay to be invisible to call ins, when you sacrifice deep penetration or hgh explosives.

4. Flashbangs and stun grenades stall sentry guns.

5. Deep penetration pro doubles your damage against vehicles allowing light machine guns to shoot down helicopters

6. obvious one, You can see where enemy supply drops are landing and are fully able to steal them. (I just stole an ac 130 tonight.)

*I havnt confirmed this, but you a game earlier someone copied my class using copycat but I could pick them up on the chopper gunner when I turned it to thermal, but I cant remember if I had cold blooded on or not at the time, I dont think I did.

Do I think the killstreaks are perfect?

No

But they are pretty well balanced all the same. Yes AC 130's are a pain to shoot down, you need 2 players at least to shoot at it, while chopper gunner you only need one. Considering the requirement to get an ac 130 I think its fair.

except

I dont think it should show up in supply drops. THats all. Everything else in a supply drop is very hit or miss, but an ac 130 in a supply drop is far too game changing. A gunner chopper offers the chance to change the game but it can be easily denied by a single player with cold blooded. An AC 130 puts half a team on the backfoot straight away.

I think it can be a sometime appearance in emergency drops (considering how many kills are needed for it and how hard it can be to aim as you need a long strip of space for it which in most maps is usually the killing floors) but it needs to be taken out of the supply drops.

WarZoneBrother · 18-11-2009 09:27AM

BlitzKrieg wrote: »

ok factcheck

1. Anything you get from a supply drop or emergency drop DOES NOT COUNT TOWARDS YOUR KILLSTREAK if you get a predator from a crate and kill 4 people they dont count. If you earn a predator and kill 4 people they do.

2. Killstreaks are much more powerful, but also for the most part much easier to avoid. With the exception of stealth bombers, you get a warning of every killstreak (though I dont know about Nuke) and you have the ability to intercept most of them before they can do any damage or avoid them (predator's are quite easy to dodge if you start hugging walls when they get called in and there is a good 3-4 second delay before they start flying in.) Yes the chopper gunner and ac130 are the hardest to dodge or kill, but I wouldnt rate them much higher then a chopper of cod4.

3. The ability to shoot stuff down is much much stronger. Firstly everybody should know cold blooded makes you invisible to pave lows, harriers, UAV, sentry guns and choppers right? It also makes you invisible to predators, chopper gunners* and ac130's* you combine it with whatever class is your stinger class and turn to it when in serious need of AA. Cold blooded essentially counters anyone who uses killstreak call in's alot. Though how a game goes it might be better to have one of the other alternatives depending on your role so it is a price to pay to be invisible to call ins, when you sacrifice deep penetration or hgh explosives.

4. Flashbangs and stun grenades stall sentry guns.

5. Deep penetration pro doubles your damage against vehicles allowing light machine guns to shoot down helicopters

6. obvious one, You can see where enemy supply drops are landing and are fully able to steal them. (I just stole an ac 130 tonight.)

*I havnt confirmed this, but you a game earlier someone copied my class using copycat but I could pick them up on the chopper gunner when I turned it to thermal, but I cant remember if I had cold blooded on or not at the time, I dont think I did.

Do I think the killstreaks are perfect?

No

But they are pretty well balanced all the same. Yes AC 130's are a pain to shoot down, you need 2 players at least to shoot at it, while chopper gunner you only need one. Considering the requirement to get an ac 130 I think its fair.

except

I dont think it should show up in supply drops. THats all. Everything else in a supply drop is very hit or miss, but an ac 130 in a supply drop is far too game changing. A gunner chopper offers the chance to change the game but it can be easily denied by a single player with cold blooded. An AC 130 puts half a team on the backfoot straight away.

I think it can be a sometime appearance in emergency drops (considering how many kills are needed for it and how hard it can be to aim as you need a long strip of space for it which in most maps is usually the killing floors) but it needs to be taken out of the supply drops.

I taught so aswell, but it seems yesterday with my 30 kills 0 deaths match, I got Pavelow and some Harrier Strike or something and got about 10 kills with pavelow...Ended the game 1500 points and no deaths..Looked at my stats and it said for my streak it was 29...I didn't know how it came up as 29 as I clearly got 30...

Anyone know why this happened as a matter of interest??

Henrik_is_God · 18-11-2009 02:54PM

opinion guy wrote: »

I've tried shooting down the ac130 - it seems to have counter measures or something - sparkly stuff came out of it and my missile missed. as to the pave low again i tried shooting it but whatever angle i come from it seems to shoot me first.

but i don't mind this the odd time. its the case where you respawn just as something hits and you die and then respawn where the next hit comes in etc etc. does my freaking head in. happened me one day when guy was in ac130 and about 3, 4 times in a row i respawned in the firing path of the ac130. very annoying cause you have zero chance no matter how good you might be

if you use the cold-blooded perk you can't be targeted from the enemy air support .

yimrsg · 18-11-2009 03:04PM

I can understand people with lower levels complaining about the power of killstreaks but I cannot fathom how guys (and gals) over level 31 who have access to stingers (and the ability to lock on to targets) don't attack the aerial threat.

I have a class set up specifically for such an occasion, LMG and stinger with stopping power pro. Add in scavenger and you get another stinger and more rounds to fire at Pave Lows and Ac-130s. Alternatively choose/ make a class with cold-blooded and you won't be targeted from above, its selfish but effective.

Finally, pop shots at enemy uavs also; very easy to take down with an LMG or anything with stopping power. I often find that by keeping the skies clear from uav's severely reduces the more powerful kill streaks. Nearly all killstreaks can be countered; emp, predator and nuke excluded.

And so concludes our tale. I'm Leonard Nimoy. Good night,
and keep watching the skis. Uh, skies.

potsy11 · 18-11-2009 03:36PM

I am at level 20 and just got my first airstrike. I killed nobody with it. How bad is that?

I find that my aim is so slow in comparison to others. Is there a quick auto aim button or something? PS3 is the console.

Cheers

BlitzKrieg · 18-11-2009 05:22PM

I can understand people with lower levels complaining about the power of killstreaks but I cannot fathom how guys (and gals) over level 31 who have access to stingers (and the ability to lock on to targets) don't attack the aerial threat.

But the launchers that are unlocked at level 1 also have lock on???

the only difference is stingers get two shots.

Vegeta · 18-11-2009 05:24PM

BlitzKrieg wrote: »

But the launchers that are unlocked at level 1 also have lock on???

the only difference is stingers get two shots.

Are stingers a bit more powerful too?

I do find the level 1 launcher pretty impotent. The AC-130 also has ****ing flares.

What drives me nuts is that guys ranked higher than me who have unlocked one man army don't use it more often to deal with the aerial threats.

I do think the game rewards skilled players a little too well. It can make games turn into landslide wins which are not fun to be on the end of.

BlitzKrieg · 18-11-2009 05:36PM

Vegeta wrote: »

Are stingers a bit more powerful too?

I do find the level 1 launcher pretty impotent. The AC-130 also has ****ing flares.

I think stingers are a bit stronger, yes. But the level 1 launcher can still take out harriers etc without much issue and with cold blooded it can still handle the chopper gunner. The only problem is the ac130. Which with the exception of supply crates providing it you should not run into it much at level 1 unless you are playing with a mate who's a much higher level then you.

Vegeta · 18-11-2009 05:44PM

BlitzKrieg wrote: »

Which with the exception of supply crates providing it you should not run into it much at level 1 unless you are playing with a mate who's a much higher level then you.

When I turned this on at like 12.47am last Tuesday morning, at level 1 we were playing against 2 level 45 guys.

As I said I think it rewards skilled players too much making it tougher for your average Joe like myself.

I have about 28 hours clocked up, my highest streak is 19 but I was lowish level then and got the Pave Low but have never been in the seat of the AC-130 or Helicopter gunship. I have been raped by them many times though

I also seem to have a unique talent of changing class to an anti air build and then hearing the vehicle being destroyed just as I spawn. D'oh

Ingenuist · 19-11-2009 01:33AM

Only in the hands of the the absolutely animal players u see in domination. Other than that they give everyone a chance to get a decent killstreak every now and again.

Darksaga87 · 19-11-2009 01:42AM

The third person cage matchs are hella fun! although you may never see a kill streak!

brian plank · 19-11-2009 02:00AM

Vegeta wrote: »

As I said I think it rewards skilled players too much making it tougher for your average Joe like myself.

if your on a bad team they all seem to run wildly outside like boggers when they hear anything in the sky and it can get ugly fast.

thats one thing i like about it too though. if your on a good team against a rubbish team you can get all that cool stuff and build up huge scores. i even managed a nuke earlier. :cool:

painkiller does seem to have stopped spawn camping which was a balls on the last 2 games.

yimrsg · 19-11-2009 02:08AM

BlitzKrieg wrote: »

But the launchers that are unlocked at level 1 also have lock on???

the only difference is stingers get two shots.

Sorry, should have clarified.

But with stingers that can only lock on to aerial targets it's infuriating having teammates that don't use them. You would swear some of them have it purely as a fashion accessory! :pac:

I just prefer stingers to the at4 at the moment as I think they reach the target quicker and do a little bit more damage though I may be wrong entirely.

Josey Wales · 19-11-2009 03:37PM

When you get to call in a Preadator Missile or control the guns on the helicopter are you vulnerable while on your laptop? If someone sees you can they kill you.

Pyr0 · 19-11-2009 04:08PM

I've called in a chopper many a time, how the hell do I control it ?

Burning Eclipse · 19-11-2009 04:14PM

Pyr0 wrote: »

I've called in a chopper many a time, how the hell do I control it ?

Attack Helicopter (7 Kills) - Automatic, you don't control it, same with the Pave Low (9 Kills)

Chopper Gunner (11 Kills) - You do get to control

BlitzKrieg · 19-11-2009 07:23PM

Josey Wales wrote: »

When you get to call in a Preadator Missile or control the guns on the helicopter are you vulnerable while on your laptop? If someone sees you can they kill you.

yes they can but it wont affect your control of the vehicle, you will still control it til it is destroyed or time runs out.

Killstreaks too powerful ???

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