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What do you think? mw2 **SPOILERS**

  • 10-11-2009 04:33AM
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,048 ✭✭✭✭


    Im dissapointed.

    granted lots of shooting lots of violance lots of everything but it masks it for something less then great.

    First most fuastrating things is the covering system games like killzone2 gears of war, uncharted 2, even GTa 4. yet this does'nt at best i think its really very bassic just like all the cods with the big attention being online gaming as gamer and ive played my fair share of greats this doesnt sit that high in the gaming its popularity is clouded bye people going i can shoot people its got loads of wepons well great..

    Its still lacking in anything spechil

    Im really unimpressed bye it and the fact it cost me 54.99 just doubles the resent i have for the game so far....

    Its fun but its not the best game ive ever played. I dont think any amount of online gaming could improve that.

    I mean what are they thinking lets go with the method we went with last time because what it was easy?


    They just tock an ok game and cleened up the rough edges.

    If you ask me I havent fullly completed it yet but i dont think il be playing it all that much.

    Oh and the airport mission is a bit questionable.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,698 ✭✭✭✭BlitzKrieg


    finished single player there and had a quick hour and a bit online.


    Mostly I'm happy (I only payed 45 euro firstly thank you smyths!) with my purchase. Sure single player was quickly done away with traditionally, but I think that while they stuck with the if its not broke dont fix it route, they very much distilled the formula of cod4 took what worked out of that and improved on it. the result is a snapier set of missions with bigger focus on replayability (compared to cod4 where you would replay some missions but there are a few that are too much of a slog to go through with.) Here most of the levels had elements from the tanker/sniper/aces high missions of cod 4 in pretty much all of them. There are still frustrations, I personnally wouldnt put the cover system at the top of issues I want resolved, I think COD has a nicely tuned feel when in control that gives your character weight and opens a series of abilities always one button away. I think some form of cover system would highly likely muck that up.

    Saying that though, there was one point in the game that had me swearing alot (though it could be done to my lack of cod gaming in a while) which was the first brazil level where I died ALOT because of the constent need to spot the enemy hidden among the roofs pelting me constantly with rifle rounds and rpgs.

    Narrative is fine, it is very similar to cod4, like blockbusters the games have the same highs and lows in pacing even with different stories, but alot of what happens here is a bit too similar to cod4 the levels with the rangers are pretty much updated varients of the cod4 marine corp missions (escort a tank, assault a heavily armed complex, ride a copter in on a gunnery position, move through a series of locations clearing buildings and using toys to blow up vehicles.) just because they were similar doesnt mean its totally a bad thing, they improved alot on those varients in cod 4, I like that the vehicles that are manned tend to have a bit more variety to them then simple rail moments all the time.

    Its not a quantem leap forward, but its all the shininess and fun of a good blockbuster.

    Though I must add
    I missed the reason why they clicked shepard is a traitor I missed what was said in the chaos of running to the chopper just as you got shot, so I didnt know why he tried to have them killed. Also the scary russian bad guy didnt seem to get killed or else I missed that in the chaos in the junkyard. btw Price's return was awesome. And finally the red dawn moment was well timed cause even I said just before the title came up *WOLVERINES!*

    Oh and the game has a real hard on for bruckheimer films, there were levels that felt like they came straight out of The Rock and Con Air.


    On the multiplayer side of things, I'm getting the feeling that it will be a big improvement by little changes then anything drastic, moving abilities like last stand and martydom to deathstreaks is a great idea, it will stop them from spamming out the game. Moving shotguns to the secondary weapons and seriously nerfing them is interesting, though I though the issue of COD shotties was sorted with cod4. There's alot more to unlock and award players with and overall it feels like a much more customizable game.

    I also like the new killspree call ins. the helicopter/harrier call in seems to have been rightly toned down, but the predator and sentry guns are pretty cool and dont feel overpowered. The one that caught my eye though was the radar blocking one and of course the gunship. I ended up on the game where a gunship was called and it does not seem to be too much of a dealbreaker it was easy enough to hide from it and we still won despite it being called in twice by the opposing team.

    Overall I am enjoying the multiplayer more then I did with cod4. But to be honest I liked cod4, but it was never the top of my list as a favourite and I mostly played it because it was the game of choice among my friends list.


    Oh and one last question.

    Is this the same graphics engine or a new one over cod4? Cause it looks fantastic, but not very different to cod4.g


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,305 ✭✭✭blahblah06


    Should have went to Harvey norman 37.77 maybe you wouldn't feel so bad


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 715 ✭✭✭_sparkie_


    Oh and the airport mission is a bit questionable.

    well, they did ask you if you were sure you wanted to play it at the start of the game.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,924 ✭✭✭✭ShadowHearth


    Well i finished SP, and i thought it was prety decent. Liked, no... LOVED killing civilians!!!

    I actually really enjoyedthis game. And i love that they did not reinvented formula, but just took same thing polished it even more, and gave it to us!
    And thx god no vechicles in multiplayer...


    Now game was really hard on veteran settings, and i was playing it on PC, so aiming was free and easy. I cant imagine how much harder it should be on consoles!!!! unless it is just pure autoaim. It would be imposible to do all that stuff on controller, that i needed to do with mouse and keyboard!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,381 ✭✭✭Br4tPr1nc3


    for me, the game feels like quake wars enemy territory.
    the guns, and the sounds of them just feel like a rip off.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,568 ✭✭✭thewools


    Just played a few multiplayer games before work this morning - the brother bought it last night in HMV...

    Must say I looked good - was very impressed.

    One main feature was if the host left then the game would pause and find another (took about 10secs)... :)

    Had no idea of the maps - played 3 of them this morning. Done pretty ok.

    Weapons look interesting - will have to try more of them out...

    After work Ill get stuck into single player mode... tick tock, tick tock!! :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭Rb


    Went straight into MP and LOVE it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,381 ✭✭✭Br4tPr1nc3


    the went really cheap for one of the maps.
    the used that french town map,
    the one with the bunkers and trenches.
    and jsut renamed it.
    it is a good map though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭Rb


    Right, after a few hours playing:

    Overall, it's fantastic. Single player is astounding and way more gripping than WAW.

    Multiplayer, for the most part, is great. The maps, however, are appalling. Very much aimed at campers and snipers, seemingly mainly modelled on Chinatown and Creek from Modern Warfare I. Very disappointing, hopefully they get some new map packs out asap. Perks, weapons etc are really great though, the ability to get rid of headsets and the switching of hosts really made it too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,698 ✭✭✭✭BlitzKrieg


    i await the classic map pack, which will have all the favourites from cod4 thrown in with spruced up graphics.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 411 ✭✭andy g


    i didnt like the way i cant use xbox party chat on some playlists.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,494 ✭✭✭citizen_p


    emmmm i mainly bought it for the multiplayer tbh.... i was playin 4 up until yesterday.:D

    and a covering system would ruin cod imo


    switching hosts, i used to hate when hosts leave after 2 kills


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,698 ✭✭✭✭BlitzKrieg


    which playlists dont can you not use party chat?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭Rb


    BlitzKrieg wrote: »
    i await the classic map pack, which will have all the favourites from cod4 thrown in with spruced up graphics.
    Wouldn't be surprised.

    On another note, cheers IW for keeping the pathetic excuse of an online setup. More often than not today I've been dumped on to some team of retards who've half the score of their opponents and who've went on to get negative k:d in every successive game. Sick to see this bs still rearing it's ugly head.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 711 ✭✭✭battser


    Well I just walked in on an old captain Price and I was delighted to see the old bugger!!! :D

    PLayed it first on console 360 - As far as the game and engine go its the same as MW and thats fair enough someone already said if it aint broke dont fix it! People who are talking of a covering system should realise that its never gonna be part of the cod series and It would ruin MW.

    The story is a bit sketchy imo but I still like it aswel! This is prob cause I didn't have the really high expectations of some people and wasn't greatly let down when I seen that Soap was leading task force 141! I mean FFS There was no need to leave the SAS route! Besides that I Hated the american missons in MW and I am not really mad about them in this one either and thats mainly because there is very little substance to what they are doing.

    The producers always make the american missions stupid see,shoot,kill type levels where its just mayhem with a small little objective that trys to give them purpose! However they make task force 141 missions a lot more substancial with a bit more purpose but still nowhere near the SAS missions in MW. I was hoping for a more solid plot but maybe my opinion will change when I finish the game! Some of us have to work after all :P:P:mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,814 ✭✭✭Gone Drinking


    I think its good, but the first player seems abit messy at times.. Being shot at from all directions, lack of actual cover. Haven't tried multiplayer yet..

    I also found the airport map, a little creepy.
    Its weird because i've mowed down innocents in GTA for years, but this game seems so realistic


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,393 ✭✭✭✭Vegeta


    Rb wrote: »
    Wouldn't be surprised.

    On another note, cheers IW for keeping the pathetic excuse of an online setup. More often than not today I've been dumped on to some team of retards who've half the score of their opponents and who've went on to get negative k:d in every successive game. Sick to see this bs still rearing it's ugly head.

    Yup my biggest complaint about this is the matchmaking, it's fcuking useless.

    Tried for ages to get a game with a friend last night but it just wouldn't work, then we went our separate ways and I had to endure about 20 attempts to get into a game on my own


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,320 ✭✭✭weiland79


    Well i don't usually play MP nothing has ever really grabbed me before,but i gotta say I'm loving MW2 MP.I'm not very good at it but none the less enjoying the **** out of it so much so that I haven't really played SP which is unheard of for me.I guess maybe it could be just my Noob MP status but i have no probs with the Maps or pairing.Try not to take it sooo seriously.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 281 ✭✭supersaint3


    actually could someone fill me in on the plot I thought it was really poorly developed? I have to say the plot confused the hell out of me, it wasn't explained well at all. And the SP was so short! but another mission ala the ghillie mission in MW1 would have been appreciated. OVer all I'm a little let down. And I agree with the previous poster, the multiplayer maps seem to be set up for the snipers and lurkers which isn't as much fun...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,545 ✭✭✭Oafley Jones


    I've only played the first two missions in single player, but it seems to be the same formula to me; rush from trigger point to trigger point on safe path and get rid of respawning enemies (which I thought they got rid of).

    It's always been about the multiplayer for me and I'm finding it a bit frantic, perhaps it's the fact I'm now more accustomed to slower pace of WAW. Enjoying it though - except Quarry screw that map.

    I find it odd that IW didn't implement some of the - what I consider - improvements from WAW: custom loadouts being on the top of the screen, button for voting on skipping levels and few other bits and bobs.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 358 ✭✭sparky360


    spoilers damn it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,305 ✭✭✭DOC09UNAM


    sparky360 wrote: »
    spoilers damn it


    You could umm, take your own advice, might aswell spoiler the bit you copied from him.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,919 ✭✭✭✭Gummy Panda


    God damnit!

    Please use spoiler tag

    Just had single player spoiled :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 281 ✭✭supersaint3


    major apologies dude


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20 ciaranoreilly


    ah ffs you just ruined half the bleedin game! i am only on mission 5. now its gonna be half the enjoyment cos you cant spell spoil obviously!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,224 ✭✭✭✭Kinetic^


    I've changed the title to warn people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,400 ✭✭✭✭r3nu4l


    Kinetic^ wrote: »
    I've changed the title to warn people.

    I've removed the quote that still contained spoilers. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,305 ✭✭✭DOC09UNAM


    r3nu4l wrote: »
    I've removed the quote that still contained spoilers. :)



    good idea, :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,027 ✭✭✭docdolittle


    Does anybody else feel that the grenade launcher is way too powerful in multi? I was walking around decimating teams with it at the very start... :confused:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,698 ✭✭✭✭BlitzKrieg


    Does anybody else feel that the grenade launcher is way too powerful in multi? I was walking around decimating teams with it at the very start... :confused:

    no cause I suck at using it :D

    (which one? thumper or underbarrel? Cause I suck at both)


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