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6 in 10 Australians don't want the Queen

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 870 ✭✭✭Osgoodisgood


    if I remember correctly they were given the option through a referendum a couple of years ago, and they choose to retain the queen as their head.

    You remember semi-correctly. The referendum asked the public did they want to have a republic with the head of state selected by the goverment of the day. Most Australians wanted a democratically elected head of state, not a puppet. So the majority unfortunately said no.
    I was in Austrailia at a time and it gave me great pleasure in pointing out the Union Jack on their flag and the Queen on their money everytime they said something along the lines of '' Ireland just another part of the UK ''.
    That's odd. I lived there for 26 years and I never once heard anyone say such a thing. Except of course as a cheap means to rile some gobby Paddy. In any case I'd sooner have the queen on the corner of my flag than in the corner of my country.
    I'm sure they will just vote her back in.............their not really the sharpest tools in the box; are they?
    "They're" not are they? It looks like they will have removed Mrs Windsor's crew safely and quietly within 250 years. How did you get on?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,165 ✭✭✭enda1



    That's odd. I lived there for 26 years and I never once heard anyone say such a thing. Except of course as a cheap means to rile some gobby Paddy. In any case I'd sooner have the queen on the corner of my flag than in the corner of my country.

    26 years and you heard nobody say it, and then you go say it yourself!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,748 ✭✭✭Cunny-Funt


    Pretty good actually, we're a free country :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,598 ✭✭✭✭Aidric


    Dudess wrote: »
    When it comes to Helen Mirren, I know a lot of guys would... but what about when she played the queen in all her cardiganed, tweed-skirted glory? Would you have then?

    Yes and I would have let Philip watch.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,194 ✭✭✭✭IvySlayer


    The Queen has no power though, it's just symbolic. Some people just like that.

    We weren't a republic until 1949 ;)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,190 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    Does the average Aussie care about who runs / rules Ireland ?

    No

    So who really cares about how they feel about the Queen and Monarchy ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    I'll get back to the OP as quickly as possible as such a burning issue deserves my full attention.

    I'm pulling hairs out of my arse with a pair of tweezers at the minute though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,566 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    walshb wrote: »
    Secretly they damn well love the Crown, just like the Scots. They are actually more loyal to the Crown than the ordinary English person. Welsh the same. They lap up the whole monarchy garbage.

    I would say that in the UK, Canada and Australia, it is a case of better the devil you know more than anything else. The Monarchy have no power, the country is run by the elected government yet there is a fall back position if needed. It's more a case of it ain't broke, so why try and fix it.

    it is also worth noting that people in Ireland did love the monarchy too. however, the first thing the Republican movement had to do in Ireland was convince the public the monarchy was evil, hence all the lies and misinformation about them.

    it is very hard to create the utopian republic when half the country love the Queen.
    Cunny-Funt wrote: »
    Pretty good actually, we're a free country :D

    Free?? your having a laugh. it costs me €3 every time i get on a motorway or cross a bridge in this country. I'd rather have a monarchy and free roads thank you very much.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,190 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    Free?? your having a laugh. it costs me €3 every time i get on a motorway or cross a bridge in this country. I'd rather have a monarchy and free roads thank you very much.
    The price of paying to live in a small republic although you have to pay over the odds to park your car in London to


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭gurramok


    it is also worth noting that people in Ireland did love the monarchy too. however, the first thing the Republican movement had to do in Ireland was convince the public the monarchy was evil, hence all the lies and misinformation about them.

    What lies?:confused:
    it is very hard to create the utopian republic when half the country love the Queen.

    UK or Aus?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 617 ✭✭✭Hells Belle


    Free?? your having a laugh. it costs me €3 every time i get on a motorway or cross a bridge in this country. I'd rather have a monarchy and free roads thank you very much.

    This is the M6 in the UK, €3 seems cheap to me Fred.....:rolleyes:
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    Mon - Fri (06:00 - 23:00)

    Sat - Sun (06:00 - 23:00)
    Night (23:00 - 06:00)



    Class 1 (e.g. motorbike)
    £2.70


    £2.50
    £1.50



    Class 2 (e.g. saloon car)
    £4.70


    £4.50
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    Class 3 (e.g. saloon car & trailer)
    £8.40


    £8.00
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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,566 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    gurramok wrote: »
    What lies?:confused:
    oh, the usual stuff. How various monarchs have looked down their noses at the Irish, or there is also the great one about Queen Victoria only giving £5 to the famine appeal etc.
    gurramok wrote: »
    UK or Aus?
    Irl/RoI :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,369 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    Free?? your having a laugh. it costs me €3 every time i get on a motorway or cross a bridge in this country.

    The problem with bridges is that they can only build them after they've collected enough €3s from the motorists. When they've collected enough, they build the bridge and away you go. You then have to explain to your family the reason for your being missing for five years.:eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 870 ✭✭✭Osgoodisgood


    IvySlayer wrote: »
    The Queen has no power though, it's just symbolic. Some people just like that.

    We weren't a republic until 1949 ;)

    Unfortunately that's not the case. The queen's reperesentative has the power to dismiss the prime minister without recourse to the public. This power was excercised in 1975 when John Kerr dismissed Gough Whitlam and installed the opposition leader Malcolm Fraser as head of parliament.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,566 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    This is the M6 in the UK, €3 seems cheap to me Fred.....:rolleyes:

    Actually, I think that is the M6 Toll, the alternative to the M6 for those that want to pay and avoid the congestion.

    Admittedly though, you do also have to pay to go into Wales on the M4, or over the Thames at Dartford.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,606 ✭✭✭Jumpy


    I'm sure they will just vote her back in.............their not really the sharpest tools in the box; are they?

    MAHAHAHAAAAA


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 870 ✭✭✭Osgoodisgood


    Cunny-Funt wrote: »
    Pretty good actually, we're a free country :D

    You should indeed be proud of yourselves.
    800 years and you got to keep 3/4 of your country. Congrats.:P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭gurramok


    oh, the usual stuff. How various monarchs have looked down their noses at the Irish, or there is also the great one about Queen Victoria only giving £5 to the famine appeal etc.

    Irl/RoI :D

    I bow to your foreign monarch, will I get a title like a Baron or Sir or a Lord for this? ;) :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,194 ✭✭✭✭IvySlayer


    Unfortunately that's not the case. The queen's reperesentative has the power to dismiss the prime minister without recourse to the public. This power was excercised in 1975 when John Kerr dismissed Gough Whitlam and installed the opposition leader Malcolm Fraser as head of parliament.

    Hmm I wonder if the Aussie public knew that, would more than 60% vote against it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,566 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    gurramok wrote: »
    I bow to your foreign monarch, will I get a title like a Baron or Sir or a Lord for this? ;) :P

    It'll take more than a simple bow you treacherous swine. 30 years in the tower and ye may be forgiven:D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 870 ✭✭✭Osgoodisgood


    IvySlayer wrote: »
    Hmm I wonder if the Aussie public knew that, would more than 60% vote against it?

    You'd think so wouldn't you?
    When I was at school there in the 70s and 80s the spin put on the events of 1975 by the pro royalist Liberal (conservative) party was nauseating. It is inexplicably not something that has ever created the sort of public sh1t storm that it deserved.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,369 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    It'll take more than a simple bow you treacherous swine. 30 years in the tower and ye may be forgiven:D

    Just think of the tips he'll get from the tourists, dressed as a Beefeater.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,494 ✭✭✭citizen_p


    ??? if you asked it in england it would probly get a 8 out of 10


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,606 ✭✭✭Jumpy


    IvySlayer wrote: »
    Hmm I wonder if the Aussie public knew that, would more than 60% vote against it?

    The Aussie public already knows this.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭gurramok


    ejmaztec wrote: »
    Just think of the tips he'll get from the tourists, dressed as a Beefeater.

    Thought i'd been used for public flogging instead, though 30 yrs in the tower is a bit harsh :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,369 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    gurramok wrote: »
    Thought i'd been used for public flogging instead, though 30 yrs in the tower is a bit harsh :)

    The only flogging would be flogging souvenirs to the Americans and Japanese. Some of those old boys must have been there well over 30 years.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,566 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    gurramok wrote: »
    Thought i'd been used for public flogging instead

    That is generally reserved for Formula bosses I believe.

    Do you have an old Nazi uniform?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,916 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    God save our gracious Queen,
    Long live our noble Queen,
    God save the Queen:
    Send her victorious,
    Happy and glorious,
    Long to reign over us:
    God save the Queen.
    O Lord, our God, arise,
    Scatter her enemies,
    And make them fall.
    Confound their politics,
    Frustrate their knavish tricks,
    On Thee our hopes we fix,
    God save us all.
    Thy choicest gifts in store,
    On her be pleased to pour;
    Long may she reign:
    May she defend our laws,
    And ever give us cause
    To sing with heart and voice
    God save the Queen.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 28,128 ✭✭✭✭Mossy Monk


    They voted to keep her a few years ago. Tough **** really.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,434 ✭✭✭DigiGal


    Mossy Monk wrote: »
    They voted to keep her a few years ago. Tough **** really.
    6/10 don't want Queen

    other 4 don't give a **** i bet


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