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6 in 10 Australians don't want the Queen

  • 10-11-2009 1:29pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 259 ✭✭


    Nearly 6 in 10 Australians don’t want the Queen as head of state. According to a new opinion poll it suggests that 59 per cent of Aussies now want a republic. As far as I can see the Queen represents a dead empire and class snobbery. Well all I can say is best of luck to the Aussies, what about the rest of you ?

    http://www.sindhtoday.net/news/1/69112.htm


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 427 ✭✭Keogg


    We got rid of her (eventually) and they deserve to aswell:D

    Down with the Brits and all... that.. Republicy stuff


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,239 ✭✭✭✭WindSock


    Similar in NZ. They only want her so they get the Queens birthday off. They hate to have the Union Jack on their flag though :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,039 ✭✭✭✭Kintarō Hattori


    Is it really that surprising, really?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,537 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    Yeah but the Queen probably doesn't give a **** what they think now does she???


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Meh, the last time they held a vote they kept her.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4 mactheknife


    if I remember correctly they were given the option through a referendum a couple of years ago, and they choose to retain the queen as their head. I was in Austrailia at a time and it gave me great pleasure in pointing out the Union Jack on their flag and the Queen on their money everytime they said something along the lines of '' Ireland just another part of the UK ''.
    I'm sure they will just vote her back in.............their not really the sharpest tools in the box; are they?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 535 ✭✭✭Saadyst


    Here we go again..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,166 ✭✭✭enda1


    Will the Aussie's give up the Northern Territory to the union though? New Zealand give up the North Island? I'm guessing not, lets hope they have more success than we had!

    Though last time the Aussies voted on this they voted to keep the royalty, have things change that much?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    DublinDes wrote: »
    Nearly 6 in 10 Australians don’t want the Queen as head of state. According to a new opinion poll it suggests that 59 per cent of Aussies now want a republic. As far as I can see the Queen represents a dead empire and class snobbery. Well all I can say is best of luck to the Aussies, what about the rest of you ?

    http://www.sindhtoday.net/news/1/69112.htm

    Yes, everyone shoud be free to vote in a fair, respectable and competant government of their own....just like the Irish have done :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,396 ✭✭✭✭kaimera


    and 6/10 aussies are expats so is it really that surprising they want a republic? :)

    long as the keep up the coopers pilsner who cares.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 371 ✭✭Kradock


    This is one of those threads were I use my default setting .

    Who gives a fcuk!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,255 ✭✭✭✭The_Minister


    I don't want her either, too old for my taste.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    I don't want her either, too old for my taste.

    Yes, but that upper class accent would be fun

    "ooh, Philip, one is arriving"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,905 ✭✭✭Rob_l


    Them Aussies are wrong, now is the time for monarchys, this parliamentary democracy stuff we tried here has failed its time to get back in the english monarchy to run things I reckon!

    Even the english and australian systems are wrong we should just hand power back to the monarchs. Just think how much we would save the country not having to pay TD's or ministers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 259 ✭✭DublinDes


    Yes, everyone shoud be free to vote in a fair, respectable and competant government of their own....just like the Irish have done :D
    Maybe we should be like the brits who don't have MP's expenses scandals, Northern Rock, RBS etc Indeed these are the very people who elect a yoke to run the UK who cannot even spell right :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,515 ✭✭✭✭admiralofthefleet


    i dont like her either, her gob make up in star wars was shit


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 259 ✭✭DublinDes


    enda1 wrote: »
    Will the Aussie's give up the Northern Territory to the union though? New Zealand give up the North Island? I'm guessing not, lets hope they have more success than we had!
    Well unless they threatened them with immediate and terrible war. But I'd doubt it, the Brits are having enough problems in Afghanistan as it is.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    DublinDes wrote: »
    Maybe we should be like the brits who don't have MP's expenses scandals, Northern Rock, RBS etc Indeed these are the very people who elect a yoke to run the UK who cannot even spell right :D

    exactly. sack the lot of them and bring back totalitarian monarchy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,239 ✭✭✭✭WindSock


    Yes, but that upper class accent would be fun

    "ooh, Philip, one is arriving"


    Does she have to inform him everytime she is putting her Tena Lady to use?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    Of course they don't want her she's a whinging facking pomp!


    It makes them look bad when all the other cool countries like Ireland and the US can stand on their own feet and Australia still gets spoon feed by mommy despite being on the other side of the planet.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    DublinDes wrote: »
    Well unless they threatened them with immediate and terrible war. But I'd doubt it, the Brits are having enough problems in Afghanistan as it is.

    seeing as the Australian army are also in Afghanistan as well, I doubt there would be too many people involved in your imaginary war.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,885 ✭✭✭PomBear


    I never understood why a country would want give thier taxes to this sponge, she's a glorified tourist attraction basically


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    WindSock wrote: »
    Does she have to inform him everytime she is putting her Tena Lady to use?

    i think we are confusing our comings and goings :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Is that a royal we?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    When it comes to Helen Mirren, I know a lot of guys would... but what about when she played the queen in all her cardiganed, tweed-skirted glory? Would you have then?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    Dudess wrote: »
    When it comes to Helen Mirren, I know a lot of guys would... but what about when she played the queen in all her cardiganed, tweed-skirted glory? Would you have then?

    I'd have stroked her Corgie :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57,356 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    WindSock wrote: »
    Similar in NZ. They only want her so they get the Queens birthday off. They hate to have the Union Jack on their flag though :)

    Secretly they damn well love the Crown, just like the Scots. They are actually more loyal to the Crown than the ordinary English person. Welsh the same. They lap up the whole monarchy garbage.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    DublinDes wrote: »
    Nearly 6 in 10 Australians don’t want the Queen as head of state. According to a new opinion poll it suggests that 59 per cent of Aussies now want a republic. As far as I can see the Queen represents a dead empire and class snobbery. Well all I can say is best of luck to the Aussies, what about the rest of you ?
    What about the rest of us?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,226 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    PomBear wrote: »
    I never understood why a country would want give thier taxes to this sponge, she's a glorified tourist attraction basically

    They'd only replace her with another sponge. Every country's got a sponge, even this one.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭gurramok


    mike65 wrote: »
    Meh, the last time they held a vote they kept her.
    if I remember correctly they were given the option through a referendum a couple of years ago, and they choose to retain the queen as their head.

    Thats because they didn't want a president elected by politicians. Aussies have the same distrust of jobs for the boys in parliament as us here,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 869 ✭✭✭Osgoodisgood


    if I remember correctly they were given the option through a referendum a couple of years ago, and they choose to retain the queen as their head.

    You remember semi-correctly. The referendum asked the public did they want to have a republic with the head of state selected by the goverment of the day. Most Australians wanted a democratically elected head of state, not a puppet. So the majority unfortunately said no.
    I was in Austrailia at a time and it gave me great pleasure in pointing out the Union Jack on their flag and the Queen on their money everytime they said something along the lines of '' Ireland just another part of the UK ''.
    That's odd. I lived there for 26 years and I never once heard anyone say such a thing. Except of course as a cheap means to rile some gobby Paddy. In any case I'd sooner have the queen on the corner of my flag than in the corner of my country.
    I'm sure they will just vote her back in.............their not really the sharpest tools in the box; are they?
    "They're" not are they? It looks like they will have removed Mrs Windsor's crew safely and quietly within 250 years. How did you get on?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,166 ✭✭✭enda1



    That's odd. I lived there for 26 years and I never once heard anyone say such a thing. Except of course as a cheap means to rile some gobby Paddy. In any case I'd sooner have the queen on the corner of my flag than in the corner of my country.

    26 years and you heard nobody say it, and then you go say it yourself!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,748 ✭✭✭Cunny-Funt


    Pretty good actually, we're a free country :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,591 ✭✭✭✭Aidric


    Dudess wrote: »
    When it comes to Helen Mirren, I know a lot of guys would... but what about when she played the queen in all her cardiganed, tweed-skirted glory? Would you have then?

    Yes and I would have let Philip watch.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,190 ✭✭✭✭IvySlayer


    The Queen has no power though, it's just symbolic. Some people just like that.

    We weren't a republic until 1949 ;)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,191 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    Does the average Aussie care about who runs / rules Ireland ?

    No

    So who really cares about how they feel about the Queen and Monarchy ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    I'll get back to the OP as quickly as possible as such a burning issue deserves my full attention.

    I'm pulling hairs out of my arse with a pair of tweezers at the minute though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    walshb wrote: »
    Secretly they damn well love the Crown, just like the Scots. They are actually more loyal to the Crown than the ordinary English person. Welsh the same. They lap up the whole monarchy garbage.

    I would say that in the UK, Canada and Australia, it is a case of better the devil you know more than anything else. The Monarchy have no power, the country is run by the elected government yet there is a fall back position if needed. It's more a case of it ain't broke, so why try and fix it.

    it is also worth noting that people in Ireland did love the monarchy too. however, the first thing the Republican movement had to do in Ireland was convince the public the monarchy was evil, hence all the lies and misinformation about them.

    it is very hard to create the utopian republic when half the country love the Queen.
    Cunny-Funt wrote: »
    Pretty good actually, we're a free country :D

    Free?? your having a laugh. it costs me €3 every time i get on a motorway or cross a bridge in this country. I'd rather have a monarchy and free roads thank you very much.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,191 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    Free?? your having a laugh. it costs me €3 every time i get on a motorway or cross a bridge in this country. I'd rather have a monarchy and free roads thank you very much.
    The price of paying to live in a small republic although you have to pay over the odds to park your car in London to


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭gurramok


    it is also worth noting that people in Ireland did love the monarchy too. however, the first thing the Republican movement had to do in Ireland was convince the public the monarchy was evil, hence all the lies and misinformation about them.

    What lies?:confused:
    it is very hard to create the utopian republic when half the country love the Queen.

    UK or Aus?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 617 ✭✭✭Hells Belle


    Free?? your having a laugh. it costs me €3 every time i get on a motorway or cross a bridge in this country. I'd rather have a monarchy and free roads thank you very much.

    This is the M6 in the UK, €3 seems cheap to me Fred.....:rolleyes:
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    Night (23:00 - 06:00)



    Class 1 (e.g. motorbike)
    £2.70


    £2.50
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    Class 2 (e.g. saloon car)
    £4.70


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    Class 3 (e.g. saloon car & trailer)
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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    gurramok wrote: »
    What lies?:confused:
    oh, the usual stuff. How various monarchs have looked down their noses at the Irish, or there is also the great one about Queen Victoria only giving £5 to the famine appeal etc.
    gurramok wrote: »
    UK or Aus?
    Irl/RoI :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,226 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    Free?? your having a laugh. it costs me €3 every time i get on a motorway or cross a bridge in this country.

    The problem with bridges is that they can only build them after they've collected enough €3s from the motorists. When they've collected enough, they build the bridge and away you go. You then have to explain to your family the reason for your being missing for five years.:eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 869 ✭✭✭Osgoodisgood


    IvySlayer wrote: »
    The Queen has no power though, it's just symbolic. Some people just like that.

    We weren't a republic until 1949 ;)

    Unfortunately that's not the case. The queen's reperesentative has the power to dismiss the prime minister without recourse to the public. This power was excercised in 1975 when John Kerr dismissed Gough Whitlam and installed the opposition leader Malcolm Fraser as head of parliament.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    This is the M6 in the UK, €3 seems cheap to me Fred.....:rolleyes:

    Actually, I think that is the M6 Toll, the alternative to the M6 for those that want to pay and avoid the congestion.

    Admittedly though, you do also have to pay to go into Wales on the M4, or over the Thames at Dartford.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,606 ✭✭✭Jumpy


    I'm sure they will just vote her back in.............their not really the sharpest tools in the box; are they?

    MAHAHAHAAAAA


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 869 ✭✭✭Osgoodisgood


    Cunny-Funt wrote: »
    Pretty good actually, we're a free country :D

    You should indeed be proud of yourselves.
    800 years and you got to keep 3/4 of your country. Congrats.:P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭gurramok


    oh, the usual stuff. How various monarchs have looked down their noses at the Irish, or there is also the great one about Queen Victoria only giving £5 to the famine appeal etc.

    Irl/RoI :D

    I bow to your foreign monarch, will I get a title like a Baron or Sir or a Lord for this? ;) :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,190 ✭✭✭✭IvySlayer


    Unfortunately that's not the case. The queen's reperesentative has the power to dismiss the prime minister without recourse to the public. This power was excercised in 1975 when John Kerr dismissed Gough Whitlam and installed the opposition leader Malcolm Fraser as head of parliament.

    Hmm I wonder if the Aussie public knew that, would more than 60% vote against it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    gurramok wrote: »
    I bow to your foreign monarch, will I get a title like a Baron or Sir or a Lord for this? ;) :P

    It'll take more than a simple bow you treacherous swine. 30 years in the tower and ye may be forgiven:D


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