A good old hiding

davyjose · 07-11-2009 01:53AM #1

My Sister in Law was telling me about her niece today, who got a time-out for throwing a knife at her Dad. A fcuking time-out.

I remember incidents of literally getting my arse kicked - I mean a bona fide kick in the hole - for pretending (yes, pretending) to steal my Dad's wallet when I was ten. And my Mam bought wooden spoons, even though she never baked ... ever!

Am I just being old school, or are kids still getting proper, old-school bashings for being bold?

Aodan83 · 07-11-2009 01:57AM

Nah, I think parents have just stopped beating their kids. I'm not condoning beating kids here, but surely theres a better way of punishing a kid for throwing a knife than a time out. i would ahve been killed for that, and my parents weren't all that child beating-y.

cruiser178 · 07-11-2009 01:58AM

In my experiance its not about the kids,its about the cnuts that drag them up.

jiltloop · 07-11-2009 01:59AM

I used to get the wooden spoon on the arse treatment when I was younger. It didn't emotionally scar me at all, it did make me very adept and running up the stairs with my arse tucked in though. And I would never throw a knife at anyone never mind one of my parents.

mikom · 07-11-2009 02:00AM

davyjose wrote: »

My Sister in Law was telling me about her niece today, who got a time-out for throwing a knife at her Dad. A fcuking time-out.

Being rewarded with a chocolate bar was poor parenting on this occasion.
Bold children deserve a snack in the mouth.

brummytom · 07-11-2009 02:00AM

I seriously don't see the problem with a good smack round the face/arse

Voltex · 07-11-2009 02:01AM

I reckon "Super Nanny" is getting a kickback off kids.
The bold step doesnt work...its BS...my son when he's naughty actually puts himself on the step...its a gas..great crack!

Now...for the majors I just give him a smack on the back of the hand...just like I used to get...didnt do me any harm....in fact i dont even really remember it!

Smak'em I say!!

davyjose · 07-11-2009 02:02AM

brummytom wrote: »

I seriously don't see the problem with a good smack round the face/arse

Agreed, BrummyTom. It did me no harm either.

Apart from the rage ... the incessant, relentless rage.

tallaght01 · 07-11-2009 02:03AM

cruiser178 wrote: »

In my experiance its not about the kids,its about the cnuts that drag them up.

Exactly, why should a kid get a beating coz her parents are useless? Plus a hiding teaches kids that their parents regard violence as a way to solve problems.

we'llallhavetea_old · 07-11-2009 02:04AM

what kind of a nutter child throws a knife at someone???

Voltex · 07-11-2009 02:04AM

davyjose wrote: »

Agreed, BrummyTom. It did me no harm either.

Apart from the rage ... the incessant, relentless rage.

smack on the face!!!:eek:
WTF!!!!!!

Mrmoe · 07-11-2009 02:04AM

brummytom wrote: »

I seriously don't see the problem with a good smack round the face/arse

pff, amateur, you know you should alway aim for the midriff, no obvious bruising then;)

brummytom · 07-11-2009 02:05AM

When I was younger, if I was bold, I got a smack. That was the way. I knew that, and because I'm not into S&M, I decided I'd rather not get a smack; so I behaved.

I've a little brother who's 10, he's never been slapped in his life and he's the most horrible child I know. He seriously needs some sense to be smacked into him

Voltex · 07-11-2009 02:06AM

tallaght01 wrote: »

Exactly, why should a kid get a beating coz her parents are useless? Plus a hiding teaches kids that their parents regard violence as a way to solve problems.

theres nothing wrong with a smack...but it HAS to be in a controlled manner...I alwayd od it while calm...only on the back of the hand...and only when Junior hurts someone..never ever for anything else!

Aodan83 · 07-11-2009 02:07AM

we'llallhavetea wrote: »

what kind of a nutter child throws a knife at someone???

The kind that hasnt been beaten into submission....yet.

tallaght01 · 07-11-2009 02:08AM

Voltex wrote: »

theres nothing wrong with a smack...but it HAS to be in a controlled manner...I alwayd od it while calm...only on the back of the hand...and only when Junior hurts someone..never ever for anything else!

Sure if it's controlled and soft then it's only a quick shock. There are far far better ways to discipline kids. At best smacking works only as well as other form of punishment. At worst, it's damaging and is ineffective which is the most likely outcome.

refusetolose · 07-11-2009 02:08AM

a time out bar is it?

davyjose · 07-11-2009 02:09AM

tallaght01 wrote: »

Exactly, why should a kid get a beating coz her parents are useless? Plus a hiding teaches kids that their parents regard violence as a way to solve problems.

Seriously, I didn't mean this as a jokey thread (although jokes, obviously, encouraged).

But back in the 80's, a LOT of my friends used to take what would be described as pretty heavy hammerings nowadays, but which were just standard recompense for being bold back then.

And to tell you the truth, there weren't half as many jumped up wanna-be scangers around the place as there are now (Mam still lives there.) Coincidence?

tallaght01 · 07-11-2009 02:09AM

By the way, the "I got a smack and I'm grand" argument is simultaneously the most common smacking argument, and the worst argument. People are not reliable reporters of whether they're "OK". The most mental people I know think they're fine :P

mikom · 07-11-2009 02:10AM

refusetolose wrote: »

a time out bar is it?

Done already..... go on the naughty step for failing to read the whole thread.

spylon · 07-11-2009 02:11AM

I don't think there's anything wrong with a smack, or the wooden spoon. A "hiding" or a "thrashing" suggests something else, more out of control, and I wouldn't condone it.

A "bona fide kick in the hole", eh? That image brought back very unpleasant memories of receiving a boot right up the fcking anus. I think it was at school.

davyjose · 07-11-2009 02:11AM

brummytom wrote: »

When I was younger, if I was bold, I got a smack. That was the way. I knew that, and because I'm not into S&M, I decided I'd rather not get a smack; so I behaved.

I've a little brother who's 10, he's never been slapped in his life and he's the most horrible child I know. He seriously needs some sense to be smacked into him

You'll find you're not living in a unique family on that one either, Tom.

tallaght01 · 07-11-2009 02:11AM

davyjose wrote: »

Seriously, I didn't mean this as a jokey thread (although jokes, obviously, encouraged).

But back in the 80's, a LOT of my friends used to take what would be described as pretty heavy hammerings nowadays, but which were just standard recompense for being bold back then.

And to tell you the truth, there weren't half as many jumped up wanna-be scangers around the place as there are now (Mam still lives there.) Coincidence?

Where I lived in the 80s was absolute bandit country and it's much quieter now when I go home to visit.

davyjose · 07-11-2009 02:11AM

mikom wrote: »

YOU STOLE MY JOKE!!!

Yup

My name is URL · 07-11-2009 02:11AM

Time-out?

Too much fcuking Super Nanny tbh, that's the problem with youngsters today, either they're too busy watching TV or their parents are

what ever happened to going out to rob apples and meander in fields with young'uns, back in the day life was alot more straightforward :pac:

davyjose · 07-11-2009 02:12AM

tallaght01 wrote: »

Where I lived in the 80s was absolute bandit country and it's much quieter now when I go home to visit.

They have a Tallaght in Australia too???

Edit: Ooh Erm .. misread your quote. TBH your right though, parts of tallaght have improved dramatically, but there's a generally - IMO -the trend has still shifted downwards.

omahaid · 07-11-2009 02:13AM

Someone who throws a knife at you in your own house is a genuine threat, if they do it once they will do it when you are asleep. Fear is the only answer. You must teach the child both what their actions bring and also what future actions will bring.

refusetolose · 07-11-2009 02:13AM

mikom wrote: »

Done already..... go on the naughty step for failing to read the whole thread.

i quick scanned the thread but didnt see that message,its disguised well,on saying that i think my version is better..........

mikom · 07-11-2009 02:14AM

davyjose wrote: »

Yup

Young Urban Professional?

Voltex · 07-11-2009 02:14AM

tallaght01 wrote: »

Sure if it's controlled and soft then it's only a quick shock. There are far far better ways to discipline kids. At best smacking works only as well as other form of punishment. At worst, it's damaging and is ineffective which is the most likely outcome.

ya see..as someone said during the week..parents arent perfect...they mostly just do their best!

Ive tried the bold step..and like I said it doesnt work for our child...but the smack does. I can only do my best as a parent and judge my actions based on what I feel is the most appropriate course of action.
I dont believe in screaming and shouting..its a strict rule i have...no-one shouts ..ever!!

mikom · 07-11-2009 02:15AM

refusetolose wrote: »

i quick scanned the thread but didnt see that message,its disguised well,on saying that i think my version is better..........

YUP

A good old hiding

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