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New US Warship built from Twin Towers Steel

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    It can carry up to 700 marines and it's not a War Ship?
    By the same logic a shipment of food and fuel is used for war, too. And a C-17 is a warplane! Look out!


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,898 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    I certainly can't think of anything better to do with seven tons of steel. It's hardly the entire warship, mind. It is not unusual for the US to name it's warships after battlesites, see the entire Ticonderoga class for example, so why not put some of the ruins into the ship named after the location?

    It's not entirely unprecedented as a concept to have symbology incorporated into a ship. For example, HMS Coventry had the Cross of Nails from Coventry Cathedral on board when it went to the Falklands. There's a bit of symbology for you: An item from a house of peace on board a destroyer. After the Falklands War, divers recovered the cross from the shipwreck, and the Royal Navy went and immediately built another HMS Coventry.

    Besides, if it makes anyone feel any better, landing ships like that tend to see more practical everyday use in humanitarian missions. The recent tsuanmis in the Pacific rim being a perfect case in point: They have plenty of cargo room and room for helicopters.

    NTM


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,626 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Overheal wrote: »
    By the same logic a shipment of food and fuel is used for war, too.

    If it's feeding soldiers and fueling tanks then yes, it's wartime military logistics


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,472 ✭✭✭Grolschevik


    It's guaranteed to go down, so...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,187 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    If they really wanted to make a statement they should have used the steel to make a new world trade centre, exactly the same as the old one.
    Even more the ship it would serve as a giant F U to the taliban/Iraq/Iran/North Korea or whoever leads the axis of evil this week.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    If it's feeding soldiers and fueling tanks then yes, it's wartime military logistics
    Sure. But when you hear the term "Warship" you think The Yamato not a Transport Vessel.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    There's a bit of symbology for you

    >_<

    Symbolism. Symbolism.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,566 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    When was the last time a warship killed anyone? Most of em saunter around hot places protecting shipping and allowing their crews to stack up on duty free


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,898 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    Overheal wrote: »
    By the same logic a shipment of food and fuel is used for war, too. And a C-17 is a warplane! Look out!

    Dude, it's a combatant vessel, manned by the Navy, it is armed, and has a definite primary role in conventional warfare. How can it not be a warship?

    At least the C-17 is unarmed and is theoretically available for private purchase, though I can't think of any private carriers which might want to buy one. I'd still call it a warplane, though.
    Symbolism. Symbolism

    Fair one.

    NTM


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 484 ✭✭Takk


    kowloon wrote: »
    If they really wanted to make a statement they should have used the steel to make a new world trade centre, shaped like a giant F U, to the taliban/Iraq/Iran/North Korea or whoever leads the axis of evil this week.

    FYP


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,187 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    Overheal wrote: »
    By the same logic a shipment of food and fuel is used for war, too. And a C-17 is a warplane! Look out!

    You could fly the C-17 into something. :eek:


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,898 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    When was the last time a warship killed anyone? Most of em saunter around hot places protecting shipping and allowing their crews to stack up on duty free

    Didn't a German warship kill a couple of pirates last month? I'm fairly sure a French frigate racked up a couple of kills as well. US warships occasionally lob Tomahwk missiles at ground targets.
    If they really wanted to make a statement they should have used the steel to make a new world trade centre, shaped like a giant F U, to the taliban/Iraq/Iran/North Korea or whoever leads the axis of evil this week

    Problem is that the North Koreans/Iranians/Whoever tend not to tourist in New York, so New York has to come to them.

    NTM


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,087 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    ShooterSF wrote: »
    It's good to see America taking a pro recycling attitude. The green party would be delighted...

    Yeh, but how damn safe can the steel be?:)

    I wouldn't trust travelling on it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    kowloon wrote: »
    You could fly the C-17 into something. :eek:
    And believe me, they fly over my house all the time on approach to the AFB. Sometimes its creepy to hear their engines going to idle as they approach your house just a thousand or so feet up in the air.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,557 ✭✭✭LD 50


    peasant wrote: »
    Why a warship?

    What's wrong with a bridge, for example?
    They've too many of those as it is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    peasant wrote: »
    Why a warship?

    What's wrong with a bridge, for example?
    How do you invade a country using a bridge?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 165 ✭✭Neonlight


    peasant wrote: »
    Why a warship?

    What's wrong with a bridge, for example?

    I with peasant on this one.


    Build a bridge and bring both sides together By The Redwalls great tune

    Still trying to get my head around Onion gay :confused:very hostile maybe he,s Muslim?

    Joke Mods;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 299 ✭✭Firefox10


    RMD wrote: »
    Suppose best way of honouring the dead is to build an item used to cause further death. Only in America tbh.

    Yes....but but are they not usually used freeing some poor population from tyranny and oppression?:rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    peasant wrote: »
    Why a warship?

    What's wrong with a bridge, for example?

    Less easy to kill people with. Generally speaking.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    humanji wrote: »
    How do you invade a country using a bridge?
    Try telling that to Medieval Europe.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,243 ✭✭✭✭Jesus Wept


    USA! USA! USA! USA!
    USA! USA! USA! USA!
    USA! USA! USA! USA!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,749 ✭✭✭CCCP^


    Was Hill 16 not built with rubble from the ruins of the GPO and O'Connell Street? I could appreciate the sentiment if the Americans built say a nice park or something or a mueseum but to build a warship, well...it's just a very American thing to do.

    I bet Osama is telling a load of jihadi's right now "10 million virgins to the first one who sinks the infidel ship with a passenger jet!"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,015 ✭✭✭CreepingDeath


    New US Warship built from Twin Towers Steel

    Yeah. Although the rest of the steel went to forging the AH ban stick.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,558 ✭✭✭netwhizkid


    CCCP^ wrote: »
    I bet Osama is telling a load of jihadi's right now "10 million virgins to the first one who sinks the infidel ship with a passenger jet!"

    I think the Muslims would try something like they did with the USS Cole during 2000 in Yemeni waters. I would think and hope that the days of hijacking planes are long over, besides hitting a ship with a plane would not sink it and would be infinitely harder to do.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,000 ✭✭✭✭opinion guy


    Neonlight wrote: »
    Still trying to get my head around Onion gay :confused:very hostile maybe he,s

    No clue myself either. Not even seen any of his other posts. But its all ok since the mods did such a fine job ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,296 ✭✭✭RandolphEsq


    There is a Google ad at the top of the page appearing to advertise 'Single Jehovah's Witnesses; Meet them now!'

    Presumably the recycling of the steel from two buildings, which together epitomised capitalist America but were destroyed, is a reference to the Jehovah's Witnesses stance on blood transfusions; they, like the steel, are living in a dark age. But the real issue at hand was whether or not September 11, 2001 was in fact the planned date of the terror attacks or were there complications which lead to a delay or rushing through of the plans. I often find myself asking the Pope about the implications of a warship/bridge hybrid. He always replies the same way; "I poop my pants". Oh the Pope, he hates Jehovahs Witnesses! Benedict the troll Jehovah's Witnesses call him. My guess is that they have listened to one too many lectures from that pious man. Unfortunately he is known for coming across a little hazy and radical in his lectures but if, like me, you knew the real Benedict, you would see that he ain't so radical and in fact only wants to settle down with a nice model wife, and a few childers. And a pint of Harp. Some places I know locally supply Harp on draught. This is due to the nostalgia associated with Harp from the 70s/80s. God has it been 30 years already since then? My how time flies


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 72 ✭✭TheRealist


    Rosaleen Tallon, whose firefighter brother was among those killed, said she was pleased that the steel from the towers had been reused in the ship.

    "It's a transformation of it from something really twisted and ugly," she told AP.

    Maybe it only shoots marshmallows :confused:


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,898 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    In fairness, as 'gators go, she's not a bad-looking vessel at all. Usually they're fairly ugly. Compare with the class of ship her class is replacing.

    NTM


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,494 ✭✭✭citizen_p


    hmmm a new target for al queda


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,187 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    humanji wrote: »
    How do you invade a country using a bridge?

    Maybe you haven't seen just how long this bridge is.


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