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New US Warship built from Twin Towers Steel

  • 02-11-2009 5:52pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,001 ✭✭✭✭


    Hmmm I'm not sure how i feel about this:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8337868.stm

    Its certainly a statement - u blow up our buildings and we'll build warships out of them. but it also seems quite warped to me somehow in someway i can't really express.

    Thoughts ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    I'm trying to think up a witty comment involving WWII Kamikazi pilots, but I'm drawing a blank.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,824 ✭✭✭ShooterSF


    It's good to see America taking a pro recycling attitude. The green party would be delighted...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,071 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Well it's very American

    that's all I'll say


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,171 ✭✭✭Neamhshuntasach


    So now the real reason behind 11/9 surfaces. Conspiracy nuts will have hard ons for days over this one.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,183 ✭✭✭dvpower


    ... now, if Al Queda were to sink it by crashing passenger jets into it, that would be *impressive*.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,808 ✭✭✭rizzee


    @ Wilson10 - I think he's dyslexic


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,962 ✭✭✭jumpguy


    I agree, it's abit twisted in the way that it seems the US are vouching more for war and retaliation than peace and rememberance, as is usual when it comes to death. Great recycling though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,931 ✭✭✭Prof.Badass


    Personally I think it's a bit weird. But I'm not american so why should i care?

    Whatever floats their boat i guess.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,944 ✭✭✭✭4zn76tysfajdxp


    longshanks wrote: »
    why do you give a fuck onion gay?

    Banned.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,130 ✭✭✭✭Kiera


    wilson10 wrote: »
    Where did onion gay come from ?
    The French?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,290 ✭✭✭bigeasyeah


    Sweeeeeeet


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,944 ✭✭✭✭4zn76tysfajdxp


    Hmmm I'm not sure how i feel about this:

    You need to pick another username.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    This video needs updating.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,231 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    It should be a catamaran named Titanic 2.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,662 ✭✭✭RMD


    "We have to remember. It's a way to honour them,"

    Suppose best way of honouring the dead is to build an item used to cause further death. Only in America tbh.


  • Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 23,238 Mod ✭✭✭✭GLaDOS


    dvpower wrote: »
    ... now, if Al Queda were to sink it by crashing passenger jets into it, that would be *impressive*.
    Or if they were to crash skyscrapers into it!

    Cake, and grief counseling, will be available at the conclusion of the test



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,608 ✭✭✭✭sceptre


    Or if they were to crash skyscrapers into it!
    Plane is to Skyscraper as Boat is to x.

    Solve for x.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,944 ✭✭✭✭4zn76tysfajdxp


    sceptre wrote: »
    Plane is to Skyscraper as Boat is to x.

    Solve for x.

    ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,262 ✭✭✭✭Joey the lips


    It brings new meaning to this steel has the sweat and blood of a thousand men.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,962 ✭✭✭jumpguy


    Yes Hadassah Shaggy Xylophone, where is the love?


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  • Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 23,238 Mod ✭✭✭✭GLaDOS


    sceptre wrote: »
    Plane is to Skyscraper as Boat is to x.

    Solve for x.
    Surely it would be:

    Plane is to Skyscraper as x is to boat.

    Solve for x.

    (cos the plane and x are the attacking objects and the skyscraper and boat are the victims)

    Cake, and grief counseling, will be available at the conclusion of the test



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    It brings new meaning to this steel has the sweat and blood of a thousand men.....
    It'll probably freak out superstitious Muslims. I bet Psyops is spreading all kinds of propaganda throughout the middle east as we speak.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 340 ✭✭jif


    right lets see them knock that fcuker down now then.....said Obama.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,290 ✭✭✭bigeasyeah


    x = profit


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,944 ✭✭✭✭4zn76tysfajdxp


    jumpguy wrote: »
    Yes Frada, where is the love?

    Are you the OP's brother?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Warship my pale ass. BBC spin.
    USS New York (LPD-21), the fifth San Antonio-class amphibious transport dock, is the sixth ship of the United States Navy to be named after the state of New York. The New York has a crew of 360, and can also carry up to 700 Marines.

    I guess Amphibious Transport Dock just doesnt have the same ring to it.

    If you wanna talk about Weapons she only has 2 Close-in defensive cannons and 2 Point-Defense RAM launcher pods.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_New_York_%28LPD-21%29


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,819 ✭✭✭✭peasant


    Why a warship?

    What's wrong with a bridge, for example?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,071 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Overheal wrote: »
    Warship my pale ass. BBC spin.



    I guess Amphibious Transport Dock just doesnt have the same ring to it.

    It can carry up to 700 marines and it's not a War Ship?

    I guess they're heading to the Bahamas and not Baghdad then =p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,559 ✭✭✭Tipsy Mac


    Strange and kind of a touch sickening in a way that salvaged steel from a terrorist attack on innocent people is now going to be used to attack more people, some of them also innocent.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    Overheal wrote: »
    Warship my pale ass. BBC spin.



    I guess Amphibious Transport Dock just doesnt have the same ring to it.
    It's still a ship in involved in war stuff, so technically it is a warship.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    It can carry up to 700 marines and it's not a War Ship?
    By the same logic a shipment of food and fuel is used for war, too. And a C-17 is a warplane! Look out!


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,650 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    I certainly can't think of anything better to do with seven tons of steel. It's hardly the entire warship, mind. It is not unusual for the US to name it's warships after battlesites, see the entire Ticonderoga class for example, so why not put some of the ruins into the ship named after the location?

    It's not entirely unprecedented as a concept to have symbology incorporated into a ship. For example, HMS Coventry had the Cross of Nails from Coventry Cathedral on board when it went to the Falklands. There's a bit of symbology for you: An item from a house of peace on board a destroyer. After the Falklands War, divers recovered the cross from the shipwreck, and the Royal Navy went and immediately built another HMS Coventry.

    Besides, if it makes anyone feel any better, landing ships like that tend to see more practical everyday use in humanitarian missions. The recent tsuanmis in the Pacific rim being a perfect case in point: They have plenty of cargo room and room for helicopters.

    NTM


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,071 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Overheal wrote: »
    By the same logic a shipment of food and fuel is used for war, too.

    If it's feeding soldiers and fueling tanks then yes, it's wartime military logistics


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,472 ✭✭✭Grolschevik


    It's guaranteed to go down, so...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,583 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    If they really wanted to make a statement they should have used the steel to make a new world trade centre, exactly the same as the old one.
    Even more the ship it would serve as a giant F U to the taliban/Iraq/Iran/North Korea or whoever leads the axis of evil this week.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    If it's feeding soldiers and fueling tanks then yes, it's wartime military logistics
    Sure. But when you hear the term "Warship" you think The Yamato not a Transport Vessel.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    There's a bit of symbology for you

    >_<

    Symbolism. Symbolism.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    When was the last time a warship killed anyone? Most of em saunter around hot places protecting shipping and allowing their crews to stack up on duty free


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,650 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    Overheal wrote: »
    By the same logic a shipment of food and fuel is used for war, too. And a C-17 is a warplane! Look out!

    Dude, it's a combatant vessel, manned by the Navy, it is armed, and has a definite primary role in conventional warfare. How can it not be a warship?

    At least the C-17 is unarmed and is theoretically available for private purchase, though I can't think of any private carriers which might want to buy one. I'd still call it a warplane, though.
    Symbolism. Symbolism

    Fair one.

    NTM


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 484 ✭✭Takk


    kowloon wrote: »
    If they really wanted to make a statement they should have used the steel to make a new world trade centre, shaped like a giant F U, to the taliban/Iraq/Iran/North Korea or whoever leads the axis of evil this week.

    FYP


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,583 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    Overheal wrote: »
    By the same logic a shipment of food and fuel is used for war, too. And a C-17 is a warplane! Look out!

    You could fly the C-17 into something. :eek:


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,650 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    When was the last time a warship killed anyone? Most of em saunter around hot places protecting shipping and allowing their crews to stack up on duty free

    Didn't a German warship kill a couple of pirates last month? I'm fairly sure a French frigate racked up a couple of kills as well. US warships occasionally lob Tomahwk missiles at ground targets.
    If they really wanted to make a statement they should have used the steel to make a new world trade centre, shaped like a giant F U, to the taliban/Iraq/Iran/North Korea or whoever leads the axis of evil this week

    Problem is that the North Koreans/Iranians/Whoever tend not to tourist in New York, so New York has to come to them.

    NTM


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57,375 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    ShooterSF wrote: »
    It's good to see America taking a pro recycling attitude. The green party would be delighted...

    Yeh, but how damn safe can the steel be?:)

    I wouldn't trust travelling on it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    kowloon wrote: »
    You could fly the C-17 into something. :eek:
    And believe me, they fly over my house all the time on approach to the AFB. Sometimes its creepy to hear their engines going to idle as they approach your house just a thousand or so feet up in the air.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,559 ✭✭✭LD 50


    peasant wrote: »
    Why a warship?

    What's wrong with a bridge, for example?
    They've too many of those as it is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    peasant wrote: »
    Why a warship?

    What's wrong with a bridge, for example?
    How do you invade a country using a bridge?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 165 ✭✭Neonlight


    peasant wrote: »
    Why a warship?

    What's wrong with a bridge, for example?

    I with peasant on this one.


    Build a bridge and bring both sides together By The Redwalls great tune

    Still trying to get my head around Onion gay :confused:very hostile maybe he,s Muslim?

    Joke Mods;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 299 ✭✭Firefox10


    RMD wrote: »
    Suppose best way of honouring the dead is to build an item used to cause further death. Only in America tbh.

    Yes....but but are they not usually used freeing some poor population from tyranny and oppression?:rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    peasant wrote: »
    Why a warship?

    What's wrong with a bridge, for example?

    Less easy to kill people with. Generally speaking.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    humanji wrote: »
    How do you invade a country using a bridge?
    Try telling that to Medieval Europe.


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