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Deaf or Blind?

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  • #32
    anplaya
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,455 ✭✭✭anplaya


    dan719 wrote: »
    No this is a stupid quote.

    well i think id know considering im deaf sure.


  • #33
    jif
    Closed Accounts Posts: 340 ✭✭jif


    Deaf! then you could see your woman but wouldnt have to listen to her go on
    FTW


  • #34
    4zn76tysfajdxp
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    dan719 wrote: »
    No this is a stupid quote.
    anplaya wrote: »
    well i think id know considering im deaf sure.

    I can't come up with any deafness or blindness puns to chastise you two with, so all I'll tell you is to knock off the aggression.


  • #35
    4zn76tysfajdxp
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    Poll added.


  • #36
    SV
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    Blind
    Erica Happy Ticker wrote: »
    Poll added.

    I was wondering how there was so many replies and I was the only person who had voted..


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  • #37
    Joey the lips
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    Blind
    Neither but the way I figure is blindness is more likely to affect your independance than deafness.


  • #38
    ottostreet
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    I really don't know. I absolutely love music, and it affects my moods and how happy I feel. I work as a DJ and when I watched the film its All Gone Pete Tong, i felt terrible at the part where he goes deaf. I sometimes have bad ear blockages due to volume, and I hate the feeling of disconnectedness from everyone and everything around you. Being blind would restrict me in what I can do a lot more, but I dont think Id feel quite as isolated, as (in my opinion) most deaf people are somewhat cut off from those who arent deaf, while this doesnt apply to blind people to the sameextent.

    I genuinely think Id rather be blind. Imagine a life of silence, unable to hear anything or unable to connect with your surroundings or people. I dont think being blind is quite as depressing an idea.


  • #39
    Naikon
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    Tommy can you hear me? Can you feel me near you? Tommy can you feel me? Can I help to cheer you?
    Deaf ffs.

    Horrible, horrible situation for anybody to be in.
    Feel terrible for anybody that is afflicted by blindness.

    I hope that sometime in the future a bionic eye can
    be implemented in humans with a decent resolution.

    As said above, the deafness thing gives you some
    leeway with social pressures. Kind of like where Autistic
    people don't care for conforming to silly human conventions.

    *EDIT* crap, I actually meant to hit the deaf option...>_<


  • #40
    donmeister
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    Blind
    I'd rather be an Oscar Meyer weiner


  • #41
    That_Guy
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    Joey the lips wrote: »
    Neither but the way I figure is blindness is more likely to affect your independance than deafness.

    Not at all true. I did volunteer work in the NCBI last year. The National Council For The Blind Of Ireland in case people don't know and they encourage people to be independent.

    They have cane training, guide dog training, daily living skills classes.

    There was a guy in there who is both deaf and blind who makes his way in and out of the NCBI every day from Sandymount.


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  • #42
    anplaya
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    ottostreet wrote: »
    I really don't know. I absolutely love music, and it affects my moods and how happy I feel. I work as a DJ and when I watched the film its All Gone Pete Tong, i felt terrible at the part where he goes deaf. I sometimes have bad ear blockages due to volume, and I hate the feeling of disconnectedness from everyone and everything around you. Being blind would restrict me in what I can do a lot more, but I dont think Id feel quite as isolated, as (in my opinion) most deaf people are somewhat cut off from those who arent deaf, while this doesnt apply to blind people to the sameextent.

    I genuinely think Id rather be blind. Imagine a life of silence, unable to hear anything or unable to connect with your surroundings or people. I dont think being blind is quite as depressing an idea.

    i manage very well.as i said imagine all the things you wouldnt be able to do if you were blind.youll lose a lot more of your independence.i can hear with the help of my hearing aids.dont feel isolated at all.


  • #43
    Naikon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,564 ✭✭✭Naikon


    Tommy can you hear me? Can you feel me near you? Tommy can you feel me? Can I help to cheer you?
    That_Guy wrote: »
    Not at all true. I did volunteer work in the NCBI last year. The National Council For The Blind Of Ireland in case people don't know and they encourage people to be independent.

    They have cane training, guide dog training, daily living skills classes.

    There was a guy in there who is both deaf and blind who makes his way in and out of the NCBI every day from Sandymount.

    I really like reading about these types of stories:)

    Some vision loss is apparent in my right eye, but no
    big deal in comparison to blindness. I really feel for blind people.

    Besides, with screen readers and such for computers, braile
    and other techniques, blind people can be quite independent.


  • #44
    That_Guy
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    Naikon wrote: »
    Deaf ffs.

    Horrible, horrible situation for anybody to be in.
    Feel terrible for anybody that is afflicted by blindness.

    I hope that sometime in the future a bionic eye can
    be implemented in humans with a decent resolution.

    As said above, the deafness thing gives you some
    leeway with social pressures. Kind of like where Autistic
    people don't care for conforming to silly human conventions.

    *EDIT* crap, I actually meant to hit the deaf option...>_<

    http://www.independent.ie/health/blind-mother-of-two-to-see-after-46-years-1736937.html

    Not too far off really tbh. I know this woman from volunteering in the NCBI and it's quite remarkable really.


  • #45
    Joey the lips
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    Blind
    That_Guy wrote: »
    Not at all true. I did volunteer work in the NCBI last year. The National Council For The Blind Of Ireland in case people don't know and they encourage people to be independent.

    They have cane training, guide dog training, daily living skills classes.

    There was a guy in there who is both deaf and blind who makes his way in and out of the NCBI every day from Sandymount.

    Thats daft. Your not independent your relying on a guide dog. Your independent with the aid of an animal. Furthermore you are dependent on a stick to guide you. While you live an indepent life you are depandent in many ways.

    If your deaf you can move about freely you just need to look around carefully


  • #46
    Naikon
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    Tommy can you hear me? Can you feel me near you? Tommy can you feel me? Can I help to cheer you?
    Joey the lips wrote: »
    Thats daft. Your not independent your relying on a guide dog. Your independent with the aid of an animal. Furthermore you are dependent on a stick to guide you. While you live an indepent life you are depandent in many ways.

    If your deaf you can move about freely you just need to look around carefully

    I think he means blind people can function within society with
    some assistance. Alot of people rely on medical crutches.

    Someone that has diabetes still has to assist their blood suger
    levels with insulin injections. This does not affect their independence.


  • #47
    anplaya
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    If your deaf you can move about freely you just need to look around carefully[/quote]

    nah not really,when crossing the road yeah,same as anyone else.


  • #48
    That_Guy
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    Joey the lips wrote: »
    Thats daft. Your not independent your relying on a guide dog. Your independent with the aid of an animal. Furthermore you are dependent on a stick to guide you. While you live an indepent life you are depandent in many ways.

    If your deaf you can move about freely you just need to look around carefully

    It's still being independent whatever way you look at it.

    People depend on their legs to walk. For those that can't walk rely on a wheelchair. They're still being independent regardless of what they use to get them from A to B.

    Being half blind myself it's mostly down to confidence and some blind/visually impaired people find it daunting to go out and do things on their own. It takes a lot of time for a visually impaired person to become independent and honestly your post I've quoted pissed me off a little. I've seen people come from being nervous wrecks to becoming so confident and being able to go around places by themselves.

    To say that it's daft is an insult to those people who have worked so hard to become independent.


  • #49
    Joey the lips
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    Blind
    Naikon wrote: »
    I think he means blind people can function within society with
    some assistance. Alot of people rely on medical crutches.

    Someone that has diabetes still has to assist their blood suger
    levels with insulin injections. This does not affect their independence.
    Well then he did not read my orig post.
    anplaya wrote: »
    If your deaf you can move about freely you just need to look around carefully

    nah not really,when crossing the road yeah,same as anyone else.[/quote]

    What? What dont you get about look around carefully.


    ahhh its midnight we stop reading at midnight


  • #50
    Joey the lips
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    Blind
    That_Guy wrote: »
    It's still being independent whatever way you look at it.

    People depend on their legs to walk. For those that can't walk rely on a wheelchair. They're still being independent regardless of what they use to get them from A to B.

    Being half blind myself it's mostly down to confidence and some blind/visually impaired people find it daunting to go out and do things on their own. It takes a lot of time for a visually impaired person to become independent and honestly your post I've quoted pissed me off a little. I've seen people come from being nervous wrecks to becoming so confident and being able to go around places by themselves.

    To say that it's daft is an insult to those people who have worked so hard to become independent.


    See your now taking it personel and stuck in tunnel vision. You honestly think that a blid person can manage as well as a deaf person your just being stubborn.

    Let me give you a classic example. Your walking down the road with skippy the dog and some little boll1x starts fireing rocks at you both. You cannot dodge the rocks and skippy has not the sense to make you run away from the rocks.

    Where as your deaf and walking down the road. First of all you cannot see the little feckers so you will not notice the stones until they start landing beside you. At this point you can run like hell dodge the stones and stop to let the cyclist pass before you cross the road.

    Is my point any clearer! I would rather be deaf if i really had to choose.


    2nd point..... New baby born. Lovely 10lb 5 1/2" oz. Granted if I am deaf i would not be able to hear him but what would affect me more. not being able to hear him of see him


  • #51
    anplaya
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    Joey the lips wrote: »
    Well then he did not read my orig post.



    nah not really,when crossing the road yeah,same as anyone else.

    What? What dont you get about look around carefully.


    ahhh its midnight we stop reading at midnight[/quote]

    what does being deaf have to do with looking around carefully?
    like your subtle pisstake about the deaf with yer what what,clever aint ya.


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  • #52
    Joey the lips
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    Blind
    [/quote]

    what does being deaf have to do with looking around carefully?
    like your subtle pisstake about the deaf with yer what what,clever aint ya.[/quote]


    If your deaf you look around carefull when your crossing the road. Is that to difficult or do you disagree?


  • #53
    anplaya
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    what does being deaf have to do with looking around carefully?
    like your subtle pisstake about the deaf with yer what what,clever aint ya.[/quote]


    If your deaf you look around carefull when your crossing the road. Is that to difficult or do you disagree?[/quote]

    what did i just say?ya said we have to look around a bit more carefully.i replied said no,just when were crossing the road,just like anyone else.what does looking around more carefully have to do with being deaf?ya tell me if youre such an expert on the subject?

    ya understand me?ya didnt need to repeat what i said in the first place.is that too difficult for you?


  • #54
    That_Guy
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    Joey the lips wrote: »
    [/b]

    See your now taking it personel and stuck in tunnel vision. You honestly think that a blid person can manage as well as a deaf person your just being stubborn.

    I'm not stubborn, I know that visually impaired can manage as well as anybody. It's all when and good for someone looking in to comment on how well they think visually impaired people can look after themselves when they've not had to deal with it themselves. I've been able to look after myself fine. And I've been doing it for 21 years now at this stage so don't tell me that visually impaired people can't take care of themselves.
    Let me give you a classic example. Your walking down the road with skippy the dog and some little boll1x starts fireing rocks at you both. You cannot dodge the rocks and skippy has not the sense to make you run away from the rocks.

    Yeah very classic alright. I've not ever heard of one report of that happening.
    Where as your deaf and walking down the road. First of all you cannot see the little feckers so you will not notice the stones until they start landing beside you. At this point you can run like hell dodge the stones and stop to let the cyclist pass before you cross the road.

    Hear... but anyway. Of course there's a distinct advantage if this happens. Sight will rule the day should this scenario occur. Having said that, as much as I detest little knackers, I don't think even they would fcuk stones at a visually impaired person. As bad as they may be I don't think they'd sink that low.
    Is my point any clearer! I would rather be deaf if i really had to choose.

    Your point is clear now yes and I know that it's an opinion poll but you've offended me because you're assuming things which aren't true and you've not experienced a visual impairment (if you have I retract) and therefore are only guessing that I and others can't look after ourselves.

    2nd point..... New baby born. Lovely 10lb 5 1/2" oz. Granted if I am deaf i would not be able to hear him but what would affect me more. not being able to hear him of see him

    Personally I'd rather be able to hear him/her. I would much rather vocal communication than sign language or lip reading.


  • #55
    Joey the lips
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    Blind
    anplaya wrote: »
    ya understand me?ya didnt need to repeat what i said in the first place.is that too difficult for you?

    I needed to repeat what you said because you contradicted yourself. But I shall make it easier on us both. Just forget what i had to say.

    Goodnight.


  • #56
    anplaya
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    Joey the lips wrote: »
    I needed to repeat what you said because you contradicted yourself. But I shall make it easier on us both. Just forget what i had to say.

    Goodnight.

    didnt contradict myself at all.i just told ya only time i look around carefully as you said deaf people needed to,was when i crossed the road,just like any1 else.

    anyway goodnight .


  • #57
    Joey the lips
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    Blind
    That_Guy wrote: »
    I'm not stubborn, I know that visually impaired can manage as well as anybody. It's all when and good for someone looking in to comment on how well they think visually impaired people can look after themselves when they've not had to deal with it themselves. I've been able to look after myself fine. And I've been doing it for 21 years now at this stage so don't tell me that visually impaired people can't take care of themselves.



    Yeah very classic alright. I've not ever heard of one report of that happening.



    Hear... but anyway. Of course there's a distinct advantage if this happens. Sight will rule the day should this scenario occur. Having said that, as much as I detest little knackers, I don't think even they would fcuk stones at a visually impaired person. As bad as they may be I don't think they'd sink that low.



    Your point is clear now yes and I know that it's an opinion poll but you've offended me because you're assuming things which aren't true and you've not experienced a visual impairment (if you have I retract) and therefore are only guessing that I and others can't look after ourselves.




    Personally I'd rather be able to hear him/her. I would much rather vocal communication than sign language or lip reading.

    I gave my opinion that was the title of the thread. You are clealy taking my opinion personel. i can only tell you that my feelings are I would love to see a beautiful lady than just hear her speak. I would love to see the sun rise in the morning than hear the waves crash against the shore and lastly I would love more to see the smile on my kids face and the blue of there eyes than hear how much they love me.

    It was person opinion asked.


    Why is it i have all of a sudden have to defend my "Opinion" jesus its not worth it!


  • #58
    anplaya
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    Personally I'd rather be able to hear him/her. I would much rather vocal communication than sign language or lip reading.[/quote]

    in fairness depends on your level of deafness.i cant hear a thing without my hearing aids but i can hear very well with them in,and i communicate in spoken language rather than sign.what more the joy of seeing what your own child looks like and being able to communicate with them too.

    obviously i appreciate not all deaf people are like myself.


  • #59
    That_Guy
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    Joey the lips wrote: »

    Why is it i have all of a sudden have to defend my "Opinion" jesus its not worth it!

    Because you're saying things which aren't true.


  • #60
    Naikon
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    Tommy can you hear me? Can you feel me near you? Tommy can you feel me? Can I help to cheer you?
    The blind person is no less independent provided he has
    the correct aides. It's not like brain damage for example.


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  • #61
    Joey the lips
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    Blind
    That_Guy wrote: »
    Because you're saying things which aren't true.

    Grow up please this was my oring opinion

    "Neither but the way I figure is blindness is more likely to affect your independance than deafness. "

    are you telling me that they are both actually the same. Well thats amazing because the pole does not agree with you!

    Additionally what did i say thats not true!

    Are you seriously trying to suggest that you function the same being blind and deaf! Hypothetically you wake up and your house is filled with fire. Your dog has died in the smoke. You cannot see because of the thick smoke!

    If your deaf you have a chance of getting out if you can stear clear of the fire get down on the floor and find your way around the objects.

    If your blind your dog is dead your on your own! You can shout and you can hear but you can see feck all


    Its called an opinion! Its not untrue its not wrong

    Untrue and wrong is to say all deaf people are useless or all blind people are useless but an opinion which is asked for is not untrue!


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