Vigilantism

komodosp · 30-10-2009 03:11PM

FFS the thing about vigilantes is they are basically another gang answerable to no one. OK they might solve the immeadiate problem they were set up for, but who's going to stop them attacking any messer they don't like but who's doing no real harm? Whether it's by mistaken identity or that they just don't like some sector of society or how the law dealt with someone...

"No burning leaves without a permit!" (kicks fire all over the place)
"But I've got one!"
"Too late!"

If we think the law is shaight or the guards are understaffed or just lazy themselves, then that's what something has to be done about. We start tolerating vigilante groups going around kicking the crap out the scumbags on the street, and in time who knows who else they're going to go around kicking the crap out of.

livingtargets · 30-10-2009 03:29PM

I used to be all for the aul vigilantism.

But it`s very easy for a group of Batmen to break a joyriders legs and then turn around and demand extortionate "protection fees" from residents.

Not to mention that it will inevitably get out of hand and someone will end up dead for joyriding or something similar.

But violent vigilantism will only stop if the Gards and government get their priorities straight and stop leaving crime riddled areas unprotected while they send a hundred or so Gards to ram their way into Thomas Cooks to arrest feckin travel agents.

Futurism · 30-10-2009 03:40PM

whitetigerkungf wrote: »

its time scumbags learned they cant do what ever the fcuk they like and get away with. to contact he gards is a waste of time, they'r to busy dealing with real crimes like cyclng on the footpath and no tomato sauce on they're snack box. Im do not encourage violence but what else do these cnuts understand. Irish people spend to much time whining and do nothing about it. wether its little scumbags beating someone up for no reason or a government robbing us blind. And just because someone has had enough of people with over 100 convictions still causing problems for ordinary people, r randomly destroying your property that you worked hard for does not make you a facist as some would suggest

Are you going to do anything about it?

livingtargets wrote: »

Not to mention that it will inevitably get out of hand and someone will end up dead for joyriding or something similar.

Better the joyrider than someone innocent.

Valmont · 30-10-2009 03:41PM

There was that case earlier in the year when the IRA in Cavan town put out the word that if some little gang of scummers didn't stop beating up random people and causing havoc then there would be repercussions. It stopped fairly quickly from what I heard (I have family there).

Porkpie · 30-10-2009 05:18PM

These out of control yobs do not respect or fear authority. And why would they? The cops in this country are wimps, unwilling to get out of their cars. But can we really blame the cops when there is a culture of lenience and 'head in the sand' thinking when it comes to dealing with these thugs? Those bangers are supposed to be illegal anyway, the whole thing is a joke. The scumbags know they can get away with it. It's sickening. I'm calling up to my parents' house tonight and am dreading the walk up. I'll probably get a banger thrown at me. If this did happen and I retaliated by beating the sh1te out of one of them, I'd be the one who gets in trouble, that's what's really depressing.

I f*cking hate halloween. My hat goes off to the fire brigade and emergency services who will be at the front line tonight and tomorrow night risking their lives as they do every year.

Btw I think FoReal made a very good point earlier in his post and didn't deserve to be banned. I hope this doesn't mean that I'm advocating violence now.

aDeener · 31-10-2009 12:01AM

Porkpie wrote: »

These out of control yobs do not respect or fear authority. And why would they? The cops in this country are wimps, unwilling to get out of their cars. But can we really blame the cops when there is a culture of lenience and 'head in the sand' thinking when it comes to dealing with these thugs? Those bangers are supposed to be illegal anyway, the whole thing is a joke. The scumbags know they can get away with it. It's sickening. I'm calling up to my parents' house tonight and am dreading the walk up. I'll probably get a banger thrown at me. If this did happen and I retaliated by beating the sh1te out of one of them, I'd be the one who gets in trouble, that's what's really depressing.

I f*cking hate halloween. My hat goes off to the fire brigade and emergency services who will be at the front line tonight and tomorrow night risking their lives as they do every year.

Btw I think FoReal made a very good point earlier in his post and didn't deserve to be banned. I hope this doesn't mean that I'm advocating violence now.

you'd never know, your post can be construed anyway a particular mod feels like, it appears :rolleyes:

it was an excellent post by Fo Real imo

Flipz4Rollz · 31-10-2009 02:25AM

The guards are ****ing useless. FACT!

Reindeer · 31-10-2009 04:11AM

segaBOY wrote: »

When I think vigilantism I think of guys going about with a baseball bat and teaching these guys a lesson-not a community watch initiative?

But point taken.

God bless the Americans with their vigilantism and their baseball bats. Ever try to beat someone within an inch of their life with a cricket bat? Not nearly as satisfying. And Hurley's just break on ya.

30txsbzmcu2k9w · 31-10-2009 04:32AM

Fo Real wrote: »

As usual progress in this country is stifled by the whining PC minority. Plenty of cities have vigilante groups
eg. vigilantes kept the New York subway safe in the 80's and 90's before Giuliani cleaned up the place;

Community groups keep the thieving roma gypsys off the streets in Naples and Rome;

Dublin communities even drove the scummy drug dealers from their neighburhoods in the 80's.

OP if you decide to deliver justice I'm sure your local community will support you 100%

Great post. Whether or not some little coward throws eggs or bullets at INNOCENT people they deserve what they get.

waitinforatrain · 31-10-2009 05:04AM

Irish people have been ****ed around by the state of the justice system long enough, great to see people stepping up and encouraging solidarity within their community.

Up north it's always been that way because of their history, but I think we sort of lost that feeling of belonging to a community down here.

Helix · 31-10-2009 06:29AM

depending on the level of vigilantism i voted yes

i think with scumbags youd only need a group of 20 or 30 locals to surround them and tell them to stop acting the bollox or therell be consequences to sort things out. maybe ONCE youd need to act on the threat, but after that i think the show of force would be enough

ive no problem with that kinda thing to be honest. its solidarity of a locality to stand up against the scum who think they can do what they like

but wholesale beatings against people any randommer thinks deserves it is probably taking it a bit far

where im from in balbriggan there are notorious young lads whove robbed and beaten pensioners yet still walk the streets. the unfortunate truth of it is that rather than the community running these guys out of the town, whats going to happen is someone will snap and severely beat one of them and end up getting time for it

everyone has a breaking point, and no community should be pushed far enough by individuals to reach it imo

collective shows of power need to be taken, without resorting to violence unless absolutely necessary. and thats only in the most extreme of cases

the judicial system is a joke, especially for youths

centre half · 31-10-2009 10:53AM

Midnight_EG wrote: »

Hunting rifle, tazer and a few smoke grenades ok?

Hunting rifle and a pack of smokes is more like it

Terry · 31-10-2009 11:44AM

Porkpie wrote: »

Btw I think FoReal made a very good point earlier in his post and didn't deserve to be banned. I hope this doesn't mean that I'm advocating violence now.

No. It means you get yellow carded for questioning a mod decision on thread.
Take it to the help desk if you have problems with my moderating.

aDeener wrote: »

you'd never know, your post can be construed anyway a particular mod feels like, it appears :rolleyes:

it was an excellent post by Fo Real imo

Careful now.

Helix wrote: »

depending on the level of vigilantism i voted yes

i think with scumbags youd only need a group of 20 or 30 locals to surround them and tell them to stop acting the bollox or therell be consequences to sort things out. maybe ONCE youd need to act on the threat, but after that i think the show of force would be enough

ive no problem with that kinda thing to be honest. its solidarity of a locality to stand up against the scum who think they can do what they like

but wholesale beatings against people any randommer thinks deserves it is probably taking it a bit far

where im from in balbriggan there are notorious young lads whove robbed and beaten pensioners yet still walk the streets. the unfortunate truth of it is that rather than the community running these guys out of the town, whats going to happen is someone will snap and severely beat one of them and end up getting time for it

everyone has a breaking point, and no community should be pushed far enough by individuals to reach it imo

collective shows of power need to be taken, without resorting to violence unless absolutely necessary. and thats only in the most extreme of cases

the judicial system is a joke, especially for youths

Banned.

waitinforatrain · 31-10-2009 03:51PM

Terry wrote: »

Banned.

Welcome to life Terry, sometimes violence is justified.

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