Vigilantism

My name is URL · 29-10-2009 09:59PM #1

There's a couple of skangers in my village throwing bangers at cars from the roadside, their not even bothered by the fact that people can see them doing it

I know the Gardai will send a car out if it's reported but they'll be gone by that time, and it's not the first time these little fcukers would have been reported either.. but what's ever done about it?

I know that at least one of the guys has robbed houses since he was about 12 and is more than well known to the Gardai, he's never been jailed.. what's the point in our justice system!?

Remember back in the mid-90's there was the community watch initiative? The sticker was like this.. what ever happened to that?

If there was a task-force set up in your community would you be willing to volunteer your time to help out?

Midnight_EG · 29-10-2009 10:01PM

Hunting rifle, tazer and a few smoke grenades ok?

Davidius · 29-10-2009 10:01PM

The Citizen etc.

Now that's out of the way, yes, I would like to be Batman.

segaBOY · 29-10-2009 10:02PM

My name is URL wrote: »

There's a couple of skangers in my village throwing bangers at cars from the roadside, their not even bothered by the fact that people can see them doing it

I know the Gardai will send a car out if it's reported but they'll be gone by that time, and it's not the first time these little fcukers would have been reported either.. but what's ever done about it?

I know that at least one of the guys has robbed houses since he was about 12 and is more than well known to the Gardai, he's never been jailed.. what's the point in our justice system!?

Remember back in the mid-90's there was the community watch initiative? The sticker was like this.. what ever happened to that?

If there was a task-force set up in your community would you be willing to volunteer your time to help out?

When I think vigilantism I think of guys going about with a baseball bat and teaching these guys a lesson-not a community watch initiative?

But point taken.

My name is URL · 29-10-2009 10:02PM

Midnight_EG wrote: »

Hunting rifle, tazer and a few smoke grenades ok?

Sure, I have a brand new sack of doorknobs I want to try out =p

admiralofthefleet · 29-10-2009 10:03PM

boil eggs, throw them at said skangers. sorted

Terry · 29-10-2009 10:03PM

Usual warning about advocating violence.
Don't do it.
Doing so will result in a ban and don't start whining to me if I do ban you for it in this thread.

K-Ren · 29-10-2009 10:06PM

I press R3 every now and again.

Takk · 29-10-2009 10:07PM

Kent: I see. Well, what do you say to the accusation that your group
has been causing more crimes than it's been preventing?

Homer: I]amused[/I Oh, Kent, I'd be lying if I said my men weren't
committing crimes.

Kent: I]pause[/I Well, touche'.

.

Midnight_EG · 29-10-2009 10:09PM

My name is URL wrote: »

Sure, I have a brand new sack of doorknobs I want to try out =p

Do you usually carry knobs around?

jimoc · 29-10-2009 10:09PM

just throw a stink bomb on the spot where they usually stand every time you pass.
Not violent, but effective.

brummytom · 29-10-2009 10:14PM

Would I join?

No, because I'm a pussy.
But I'd support a vigilante group.. some people are just beyond the police

Dartz · 29-10-2009 10:17PM

I say we build a wall around them parts of town... post guard towers and machinegun bunkers to gun down esvapees.

Throw in guns.

Let the problem solve itself.

And maybe film the solution for a global reality TV audience.

PCPhoto · 29-10-2009 10:18PM

people are afraid to report criminals (even the baby criminals - like the OP posted about) ......for fear of reprocussions.

we all know the justice system doesnt work in this country - even yesterday a judge in the childrens court stated that "Roma" children are being raised to commit robbery..... it was also mentioned in court that "its part of their culture"

I personally find this amusing - why do we as a nation bend over and take it proverbally when people from other nations break our rules/laws.

I have actually had this discussion earlier today with a colleague - in his opinion this country needs military schools, in general kids today dont understand the meaning of the word "No" and have very little respect and even less discipline....the country and indeed society in general is saturated with political correctness and Civil Rights activists....if people dont behave like a civil human how can they expect to be treated like one.(my opinion)

as for the original post - not a whole lot you can do about the kids - I would be in favour of a neighbourhood watch initiative - but people today dont know their neighbours.

My name is URL · 29-10-2009 10:18PM

brummytom wrote: »

Would I join?

No, because I'm a pussy.
But I'd support a vigilante group.. some people are just beyond the police

To be fair, it wouldn't mean battering anyone or been battered.

It's a show of solidarity by a community that won't tolerate crime, more than anything.

The more people that supported it, the bigger the reason for skangers not to commit petty crimes.

Fo Real · 29-10-2009 10:51PM

As usual progress in this country is stifled by the whining PC minority. Plenty of cities have vigilante groups
eg. vigilantes kept the New York subway safe in the 80's and 90's before Giuliani cleaned up the place;

Community groups keep the thieving roma gypsys off the streets in Naples and Rome;

Dublin communities even drove the scummy drug dealers from their neighburhoods in the 80's.

OP if you decide to deliver justice I'm sure your local community will support you 100%

Riddle101 · 29-10-2009 10:59PM

PCPhoto wrote: »

people are afraid to report criminals (even the baby criminals - like the OP posted about) ......for fear of reprocussions.

we all know the justice system doesnt work in this country - even yesterday a judge in the childrens court stated that "Roma" children are being raised to commit robbery..... it was also mentioned in court that "its part of their culture"

I personally find this amusing - why do we as a nation bend over and take it proverbally when people from other nations break our rules/laws.

I have actually had this discussion earlier today with a colleague - in his opinion this country needs military schools, in general kids today dont understand the meaning of the word "No" and have very little respect and even less discipline....the country and indeed society in general is saturated with political correctness and Civil Rights activists....if people dont behave like a civil human how can they expect to be treated like one.(my opinion)

as for the original post - not a whole lot you can do about the kids - I would be in favour of a neighbourhood watch initiative - but people today dont know their neighbours.

I like the idea of bringing military schools in, however it still has flaws. One being that even if a kid is sent to military school will it really have much affect if the kid's parents turn out to be crappy parents who don't give a damn about punishing them, or worse even encouraging them. Once the kids get back on the street the parents may very well turn all the discipline around and they'll be back to no good again.

As for having some form of neighbourhood watch. I would support it, not in the vigilantee type of way, but just a more solidarity type of way. Didn't they do something like this in Rathfarnham to get rid of the drug or something?

Long story short, it's the parent's fault and the only way to punish the children is to punish the parents.

Terry · 29-10-2009 11:08PM

Fo Real wrote: »

As usual progress in this country is stifled by the whining PC minority. Plenty of cities have vigilante groups
eg. vigilantes kept the New York subway safe in the 80's and 90's before Giuliani cleaned up the place;

Community groups keep the thieving roma gypsys off the streets in Naples and Rome;

Dublin communities even drove the scummy drug dealers from their neighburhoods in the 80's.

OP if you decide to deliver justice I'm sure your local community will support you 100%

Banned.

FFS. Can we have a conversation here that doesn't end up with someone suggesting that we all bring out hurls and go on a witch hunt?

Oh yeah. Right.
Sorry. I forgot for a second.

Anyway, still banned for advocating violence and for that post being really idiotic.

sunnyjim · 29-10-2009 11:21PM

Where did he promote violence?

m5ex9oqjawdg2i · 29-10-2009 11:25PM

Chassed a few fcukers out of my area last night, letting off bangers and screamers in our complex at about 2am. Took my belt with the huge buckle and wrapped it around my hand, caught them both, to my surprice they were in their mid 20's. Told them if I seen them again I would smash their faces in. They walked away, I followed them for about half a mile... tossers. Hard men until somebody bigger confronts them

Terry · 29-10-2009 11:38PM

sunnyjim wrote: »

Where did he promote violence?

It was implied, especially in the last sentence.

Take it to the help desk.

smoochie06 · 29-10-2009 11:46PM

My name is URL wrote: »

There's a couple of skangers in my village throwing bangers at cars from the roadside, their not even bothered by the fact that people can see them doing it

I know the Gardai will send a car out if it's reported but they'll be gone by that time, and it's not the first time these little fcukers would have been reported either.. but what's ever done about it?

I know that at least one of the guys has robbed houses since he was about 12 and is more than well known to the Gardai, he's never been jailed.. what's the point in our justice system!?

Remember back in the mid-90's there was the community watch initiative? The sticker was like this.. what ever happened to that?

If there was a task-force set up in your community would you be willing to volunteer your time to help out?

Yes i would volunteer my time but would it really make a difference considering you said that they are'nt even bothered who sees them. You have to blame the parents for not dealing with them. I know if i was robbing houses when i was 12 i would have got a good hiding off my father and that would be the end of that.

Ziggurat · 30-10-2009 12:12AM

Remember that case in England of the paediatrician being attacked because the idiots didn't realise paediatrician and paedophile are two different things?

Vigilantism at its finest.

Gummy Panda · 30-10-2009 12:16AM

We need.. The Equalizer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uB1NiNKwueE

thomond2006 · 30-10-2009 12:20AM

Vigilantism FTW

Seriously though, somebody needs to take some action.

Like brummytom, I'd be too pussy to do this myself but I would support it.

Problem is eventually innocent people/children (:eek:) would get caught in the middle of it.

Even so, the Irish are losing Ireland.

Midnight_EG · 30-10-2009 12:21AM

From here on, brummytom will be known as the pussy of boards.ie

Cadiz · 30-10-2009 12:23AM

Fo Real wrote: »

Community groups keep the thieving roma gypsys off the streets in Naples and Rome;

Do you mean those guys in Naples and Rome the ones who dress up in uniforms to patrol? They're not community groups, they're lawless neofascists.

And since when is thieving confined to the Roma or any other grouping? It's an activity prevalent across cultures.

PCPhoto · 30-10-2009 12:32AM

Riddle101 wrote: »

I like the idea of bringing military schools in, however it still has flaws. One being that even if a kid is sent to military school will it really have much affect if the kid's parents turn out to be crappy parents who don't give a damn about punishing them, or worse even encouraging them. Once the kids get back on the street the parents may very well turn all the discipline around and they'll be back to no good again.

As for having some form of neighbourhood watch. I would support it, not in the vigilantee type of way, but just a more solidarity type of way. Didn't they do something like this in Rathfarnham to get rid of the drug or something?

Long story short, it's the parent's fault and the only way to punish the children is to punish the parents.

if I had my way habitual criminal families would not be allowed to have kids - but thats another point.

yes the parents are partially to blame for these kids (and their lack of respect/discipline) .... but you can be pretty confident to say that most of these kids are from families where one or both parents abuses alcohol and/or has criminal convictions (in the past as a youth or in recent years) - yes this is a sweeping statement but I'm open to someone doing the research and correcting me.

DoireNod · 30-10-2009 12:33AM

I love how people are in favour of vigilantism and then they condemn people who engage in vigilantism. Have to appreciate the irony.

mega man · 30-10-2009 12:39AM

a couple of kids got the **** kicked out of them today while playing with fireworks.
it turns out it was a group of vigilantes who did it.

Dartz · 30-10-2009 12:39AM

Terry wrote: »

It was implied, especially in the last sentence.

Take it to the help desk.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guardian_Angels

The Guardian Angels is a non-profit, international, volunteer organization of unarmed citizen crime patrollers. The Guardian Angels organization was founded February 13, 1979 in New York City by Curtis Sliwa and has chapters in 13 countries (in 140 cities) around the world[1].
Sliwa originally created the organization to combat widespread violence and crime on the New York City subways. The organization originally trained members to make citizen’s arrests for violent crimes. The organization patrols the streets and neighborhoods but also provides education programs and workshops for schools and businesses.

I think this is the crowd he might've been thinking of.

"Vigilanté's" don't have to be violent after all.

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