The EU is about to attack the headshops.

ShooterSF · 28-10-2009 12:18AM

Don't use any of this stuff but what the hell is wrong with live and let live? I have never been dragged into a headshop and forced to try stuff...

genericguy · 28-10-2009 12:22AM

fredzer wrote: »

She is the Minister for Health, so health stuff kinda is on her portfolio.

I do agree with you that they should not be banned but above remark struck me as odd!! If they legalised some decent drugs people would not have to resort to using BZP and other muck!

no, her job is to ensure that the health service runs smoothly with the resources it has. and tbh, a cnut that fat has no right to be in a job with anything health related on the portfolio. the single worst thing for your health is to be overweight, and the fat bint isn't doing anything about that.

anonymous_joe · 28-10-2009 12:24AM

jumpguy wrote: »

Then why can they not just target them through regulation?

Easier? Pleases moany types? Not going to be a good reason I reckon.

ShooterSF wrote: »

Don't use any of this stuff but what the hell is wrong with live and let live? I have never been dragged into a headshop and forced to try stuff...

Because there'll be loads of old biddies and moany types who look at things like headshops as in some way bad.

Most people, as I said earlier, won't care that much, but you get to please a vocal minority. I guess.

genericguy · 28-10-2009 12:24AM

espinolman wrote: »

Herbalism has been suppressed for centuries anyway ,because it helps people , anything that helps people and is good for them is attacked.

i think it;s to do with the fact that if herbal meds work for you then you could grow your own, same with weed. if we could grow our own nurofens/solpadein etc the pharma companies would lose a fortune and so would the government.

xoxyx · 28-10-2009 12:25AM

I just find it hard to believe that something more hasn't been done already.
So - call me green

- but when I first went to Electric Picnic the year before last, I knew a lot of the people I was going with would be taking lots of drugs. Hash doesn't agree with me, and, as for the rest, I could take them or leave them. So, I thought the safe bet would be to stock up on some legal stuff.
Now, this is completely my own stupidity, but I never thought to check up on what was in these things. I just assumed that, as they were being sold freely, they were safe enough.
Fortunately for me I had a great time. I didn't get much from what I bought from the head shop, but neither did I get ill. However, a friend of mine, who has taken a fair share of drugs in her day, took one party pill on the first night and missed the rest of the weekend. She spent the entire time throwing up!
About a year later, I started hearing reports on the news, as BZP was being banned, about people having seriously bad reactions from the stuff.
Fair enough - if you take a pill from somebody you don't really know, you have to go with what happens - but the fact that these are being sold so easily and can be so dangerous and are so easily available is a bit off to me.

Herbal Deity · 28-10-2009 12:25AM

ShooterSF wrote: »

Don't use any of this stuff but what the hell is wrong with live and let live? I have never been dragged into a headshop and forced to try stuff...

"But what about the children, Joe...."

The_Minister · 28-10-2009 12:34AM

Anyone read the article?

Anyone?

ShooterSF · 28-10-2009 12:39AM

The_Minister wrote: »

Anyone read the article?

Anyone?

I don't read red top rags...
..
..
..
..
..
I just assume the outrage in advance.

Run_to_da_hills · 28-10-2009 12:43AM

ShooterSF wrote: »

I don't read red top rags...
..
..
..
..
..
I just assume the outrage in advance.

The Dailymail is a blue top rag.

anonymous_joe · 28-10-2009 12:56AM

The_Minister wrote: »

Anyone read the article?

Anyone?

It's more fun to speculate.

K-9 · 28-10-2009 01:11AM

The_Minister wrote: »

Anyone read the article?

Anyone?

It's Run_ta_da_hills time.

Just look at the Daily Mail Headline and run.

Ruu_Old · 28-10-2009 01:13AM

What's wrong with good old wood glue or dry erase board markers? Back to basics, chaps.

Pace2008 · 28-10-2009 01:22AM

Will this actually affect headshops at all? The article says it's a ban on 'herbal remedies,' and while headshops used to market their products as 'herbal highs,' they're boxing clever these days and generally label their wares as bath salts, plant feeders, or incense -- none of which, they claim, are for human consumption.

Terry wrote: »

I don't care what anyone says. If you want a natural high, then beer is the way to go.
You can't beat it.

Aye, **** personal preference.

What's wrong with good old wood glue or dry erase board markers? Back to basics, chaps.

Not a fan of brain damage, thanks.

doonothing · 28-10-2009 01:46AM

I've only recently tried some legal drugs (other than those awful party pills and salvia ****e), and I'm shocked how good some of them are! Mint Mania (or mint madness, something like that!) really clean high, no feeling of being out of control, no comedown, no difficulty eating or sleeping, no terrible hangover.. Really superior to most illegal drug experiences I've had!
And smoke, that legal marijuana substitute, that Triple X stuff is surprisingly good!
So all in all, just like shrooms, the second I start to like a legal drug, it's going to get banned isn't it. Sigh..

marco_polo · 28-10-2009 01:58AM

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Last march Harney banned the the sale of BZP in Ireland, in no time an alternative was offered . It now looks as if the party will be completly over for these shops. Under new EU proposals it looks like there will be a blanket ban on all herbal drugs except for mild remedies that will be EU approved.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1222980/Herbal-drug-crackdown-Millions-face-having-buy-remedies-black-market-Europe-tightens-rules.html

Regulation and approval for sale of only proven safe products != Blanket ban

http://www.imb.ie/images/uploaded/documents/2716588_Guide.pdf

This legislation is designed to provide an appropriate legal framework for placing traditional herbal medicinal products on the market within the European Community. It introduces a simplified registration procedure that gives traditional herbal medicinal products recognition and enhanced status, while ensuring protection of public health.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Directive_on_Traditional_Herbal_Medicinal_Products

OutlawPete · 28-10-2009 03:11AM

Ruu wrote: »

What's wrong with good old wood glue or dry erase board markers?

Nothing wrong with them and I bet they are still be used by the kids with nothing and who want a high to escape the real pain of growing up and having it tough in Dublin.

These kids getting 'high' from these damn headshops though are all a bunch of fecking rich kids spending daddy's money. They are all minted. You see them all hanging out with designer baggies and trying to dress shabby in clothes that cost a fortune while pretending they are street tough yobs.

The reality is that by 9pm most of them, if not all, are tucked up in their detacthed Foxrock with a cup of cocoa from mommy.

Pace2008 · 28-10-2009 11:15AM

Nico22 wrote: »

Nothing wrong with them and I bet they are still be used by the kids with nothing and who want a high to escape the real pain of growing up and having it tough in Dublin.

These kids getting 'high' from these damn headshops though are all a bunch of fecking rich kids spending daddy's money. They are all minted. You see them all hanging out with designer baggies and trying to dress shabby in clothes that cost a fortune while pretending they are street tough yobs.

The reality is that by 9pm most of them, if not all, are tucked up in their detacthed Foxrock with a cup of cocoa from mommy.

I can guarantee neither you nor I have a clue what the **** you're on about.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i · 28-10-2009 11:26AM

Terry wrote: »

I don't care what anyone says. If you want a natural high, then beer is the way to go.
You can't beat it.

Sorry... natural? Good one...

Herbal Deity · 28-10-2009 11:44AM

Nico22 wrote: »

Nothing wrong with them and I bet they are still be used by the kids with nothing and who want a high to escape the real pain of growing up and having it tough in Dublin.

These kids getting 'high' from these damn headshops though are all a bunch of fecking rich kids spending daddy's money. They are all minted. You see them all hanging out with designer baggies and trying to dress shabby in clothes that cost a fortune while pretending they are street tough yobs.

The reality is that by 9pm most of them, if not all, are tucked up in their detacthed Foxrock with a cup of cocoa from mommy.

What?

OutlawPete · 28-10-2009 11:51AM

Pace2008 wrote: »

I can guarantee neither you nor I have a clue what the **** you're on about.

Can you now?

Well you try not to hurt yourself now won't you.

OutlawPete · 28-10-2009 11:53AM

Herbal Deity wrote: »

What?

Who?

m5ex9oqjawdg2i · 28-10-2009 12:02PM

She actually thought that Bertie Ahern was in fact Bertie Bassett & agreed with him because she thought he was made of liqourice & tasted sweet.

Fcuking lol...

IT's only a matter of time before they shut down amsterdam, get your whores and weed while ye can boys.

gazzer · 28-10-2009 12:20PM

strongr wrote: »

and just when they started coming out with products that were nearly as good as the real thing Hope mephedrone survives the storm!

+1. I cant believe how good Mephedrone is. It is very cheap as well. I use it about twice a month and a small bit lasts a fair amount of time. Only downside of it for me is that I do be really tired the next day and not really bothered to do anything.

I have stocked up on it just in case it is made illegal.

The only stuff I like out of the headshops is Kratom.

The

Plowman · 28-10-2009 12:48PM

This post has been deleted.

genericguy · 28-10-2009 12:54PM

here's the next thing that'll be on jabba's ban list

http://www.rte.ie/news/2009/1028/cancer.html

once the ingredient responsible for the therapeutic effect is elucidated, harney will waddle into the banmobile and make sure nobody gets this for less than a few thousand euro a gram.

anonymous_joe · 28-10-2009 12:56PM

Allen Raspy Succotash wrote: »

She actually thought that Bertie Ahern was in fact Bertie Bassett & agreed with him because she thought he was made of liqourice & tasted sweet.

Fcuking lol...

IT's only a matter of time before they shut down amsterdam, get your whores and weed while ye can boys.

The Dutch themselves want to shut it down because it's a cesspit and has given their sort-of-capital a bad/worse name.

Pace2008 · 28-10-2009 01:07PM

Nico22 wrote: »

Can you now?

Well you try not to hurt yourself now won't you.

No, seriously, how did you concoct the notion that headshops are frequented mainly by the overpriveleged upper-middle class? And accepting the use of inhalants while condemning the use of designer drugs is just ridiculous. Headshop products are unresearched and possibly dangerous, but they're unlikely to cause instant death or irreversible brain damage.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i · 28-10-2009 01:31PM

anonymous_joe wrote: »

The Dutch themselves want to shut it down because it's a cesspit and has given their sort-of-capital a bad/worse name.

Not at all, they are just keeping face by saying that, they make a serious fortune from the weed, mushrooms and whores... Why would they want to do that? The amount of tourism generated by that sector is huge, even if people don't smoke, eat mushrooms or use the whores, they still go to "see what it's like"

Terry · 28-10-2009 01:36PM

Allen Raspy Succotash wrote: »

Sorry... natural? Good one...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guinness#Composition
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_beer#Reinheitsgebot

The ingredients all come from the earth. What's unnatural about them?

Pace2008 · 28-10-2009 01:45PM

We all know the whole 'natural=safe/good' thing is a load of ****e anyway. It's an argument some stoners use in pro-legalisation rhetoric and it does my head in, especially since I'm on their side.

The EU is about to attack the headshops.

Comments