The Irish music industry - no support for its own?

Da Funky Munky · 16-10-2009 12:34PM #1

I heard recently that some fella from Tralee is now one of the biggest selling artists in Germany, his name is "Antone" or something similar. It got me thinking about the serious lack of support for Irish bands and artists here. Antone had to find success in another country.

Do we support international bands over oour own too much in Ireland? Who is responsible for lack of structure? The PPI? IMRO?

stovelid · 16-10-2009 12:37PM

David Hasselhoff was a huge-selling artist in Germany.

Go figure.

Pighead · 16-10-2009 12:45PM

Pighead is known around Dundalk as the King of Pop because of his unbelievable knowledge of music and he has never ever heard of this Antone lad. Have a feeling he doesn't exist. You've been had Da Funky Munky. Somebody has done you up like a kipper. There probably is no Antone and if there is he's probably a DJ in some backwater pub in Kerry.

At the end of the day the reason more homegrown bands aren't successful in Ireland is because the majority of them are pants. Have faith in the power of the song Funky. If it's good enough it shall eventually spread its wings and soar.

Genghiz Cohen · 16-10-2009 12:47PM

I support bands that are good.
I was once asked if I liked U2, when I said "No." the employable young man cried; "But they're Irish!"

Should have drop-kicked him there and then.

ejmaztec · 16-10-2009 12:47PM

No point supporting any of them, given that when they get famous, they pay their taxes in another country.

stovelid · 16-10-2009 12:50PM

At the end of the day, no record company wants to end up being culpable for inadvertently releasing another Sawdoctor virus into the Irish music ecosystem.

admiralofthefleet · 16-10-2009 12:56PM

IMRO only collects royalties on behalf of artists.
irish music went shyte when joe dolan died

Pighead · 16-10-2009 12:59PM

ejmaztec wrote: »

No point supporting any of them, given that when they get famous, they pay their taxes in another country.

That's what they call tarring everybody with the same brush! Ridiculous in the extreme.

It's like Pighead saying "No point in voting for any politicians as they are all lying, cheating, greedy chancers......"

Actually no, maybe politicians isn't the best example to use. Hmmmm. Try horses Pighead, remember yer man in the olympics who got suspended because his horse was on drugs?

You simply can't tar everybody with the same brush ejmaztec. It's like Pighead saying "No point in cheering on those Irish showjumping horses in the Olympics, sure they're all on drugs"

You should always judge each person individually on his own merits, unless it's a synchronized swimming contest.

Long Onion · 16-10-2009 01:01PM

Pighead wrote: »

Pighead is known around Dundalk as the King of Pop because of his love of sleeping with little boys.

Sorted that for you Pighead.

speedboatchase · 16-10-2009 01:05PM

The only "rock" bands listeners of Spin, Fm104 etc have heard of are The Blizzards and The Coronas. Both are rubbish but get a huge amount of support purely because they're Irish so I completely disagree and I doubt this guy you mention is even that popular, we tend to overstate anyone's success abroad. Irish music is rubbish anyways

p.s - Did a google, it's a German band with an Irish Singer called Reamonn

Pighead · 16-10-2009 01:07PM

Long Onion wrote: »

When I wake up in the morning, my bum is all red and rashy and often a pus type liquid oozes out and destroys my Superted duvet. Any ideas as to what is causing this, Pighead?

Sorry Long Onion, Pighead's field of expertise is in popular music, not arse sores. Probably best to consult your local doctor.

phantom_lord · 16-10-2009 01:09PM

Pighead wrote: »

Pighead is known around Dundalk as the King of Pop because of his unbelievable knowledge of music and he has never ever heard of this Antone lad. Have a feeling he doesn't exist. You've been had Da Funky Munky. Somebody has done you up like a kipper. There probably is no Antone and if there is he's probably a DJ in some backwater pub in Kerry.

marcus?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAtTh_ExjOg

Long Onion · 16-10-2009 01:10PM

Pighead wrote: »

Now remember Blanket, if the policeman asks, it is only a game for special boys and only the King of pop gets to hide the sausage.

Cheers for that Pighead, I'll call my GP immediately.

Jesus Wept · 16-10-2009 01:11PM

Da Funky Munky wrote: »

Do we support international bands over oour own too much in Ireland? Who is responsible for lack of structure? The PPI? IMRO?

Our own?!

Fúck that. Support people on merit.
I hate this 'our own' shit.

Pighead · 16-10-2009 01:19PM

Long Onion wrote: »

I think the arse sores may be connected to me letting my pet hamsters sleep with me in the bed. They tend to snuggle up against my arse and nibble on the arse pimples us men tend to get as we approach our thirties. It sounds nasty but I kinda like it so I haven't done anything about it until now. The extra heat generated by the little rascals probably isn't helping either. Would you recommend me evicting the hamsters from the bedroom and returning them to the cage in the kitchen?

As Pighead has already said Long Onion, his area of expertise is in the field of popular music. Not arse sores and certainly not hamsters. Perhaps a visit to your local veterinary surgeon may help?

Euro_Kraut · 16-10-2009 01:33PM

Eh do we support Irish acts.. lets see:

The Frames
BellX1
Damien Rice
The Divine Comdey
Lisa Hannigan
The Saw Doctors
Delosrentos
Duke Special
The Blizzards
Kila

All these bands make a living from the Irish scene. Place like Whelans in Dublin and the Rosin Dubh in Galway are full of Irish bands. I think it is very vibrant.

We are under no obligation to automatically like Irish made music. But alot of it is quite good and Irish people gererally love live music.

General Zod · 16-10-2009 01:35PM

Euro_Kraut wrote: »

Eh do we support Irish acts.. lets see:

The Frames
BellX1
Damien Rice
Lisa Hannigan
The Blizzards

It seems being a Glen Hansard/Whelans crowd fanboy gets you far in the Irish Music industry.

ejmaztec · 16-10-2009 01:42PM

Pighead wrote: »

That's what they call tarring everybody with the same brush! Ridiculous in the extreme.

It's like Pighead saying "No point in voting for any politicians as they are all lying, cheating, greedy chancers......"

Actually no, maybe politicians isn't the best example to use. Hmmmm. Try horses Pighead, remember yer man in the olympics who got suspended because his horse was on drugs?

You simply can't tar everybody with the same brush ejmaztec. It's like Pighead saying "No point in cheering on those Irish showjumping horses in the Olympics, sure they're all on drugs"

You should always judge each person individually on his own merits, unless it's a synchronized swimming contest.

Very true Mr P.:p

as for the synchronized swimming contest, if one of them was on drugs, it would make the rest of them look like they were also on something, because they wouldn't know what to do next, and would be floundering around like they'd just fallen off the Titanic.:eek:

cosmic · 16-10-2009 01:57PM

Pighead wrote: »

You simply can't tar everybody with the same brush ejmaztec. It's like Pighead saying "No point in cheering on those Irish showjumping horses in the Olympics, sure they're all on drugs"

Although I hear they're all fiends for the old ketamine

Prof.Badass · 16-10-2009 01:57PM

Many songs that are clearly below the international professional standard required to recieve mainstream radio airplay manage to fill the airways anyway, purely because they are irish bands and the stations want to seem "indie".

:mad:

phantom_lord · 16-10-2009 03:24PM

Euro_Kraut wrote: »

The Frames
BellX1
Damien Rice
The Divine Comdey
Lisa Hannigan
The Saw Doctors
Delosrentos
Duke Special
The Blizzards
Kila

hmmm. i think i see the problem now.

nirish · 16-10-2009 03:25PM

The band you are talking about is Reamonn. Fronted by Ray Garvey from tralee.
He has been on the european music circuit for almost 10 years and has a huge following.
http://www.myspace.com/reamonncom
http://www.reamonn.com/home.php
http://www.reamonn.com/bandbio.php?lang=en

He does support alot of irish band trying to break into european market and has opened a recording studio in kerry a few years ago.

You have you give him credit for getting where he is now.

Euro_Kraut · 16-10-2009 03:27PM

phantom_lord wrote: »

hmmm. i think i see the problem now.

Maybe you don't like them but you cannot dispute that pently of Irish people do. That kinda disproves the OP statment about Irish people not 'supporting their own'.

I personally would not be a huge fan of all the bands I listed. Doesn't mean they are not very popular in Ireland though.

Long Onion · 16-10-2009 03:28PM

Pighead wrote: »

I sure do know a huge amount about felching

The vet it is - cheers.

admiralofthefleet · 16-10-2009 03:44PM

Euro_Kraut wrote: »

Eh do we support Irish acts.. lets see:

The Frames
BellX1
Damien Rice
The Divine Comdey
Lisa Hannigan
The Saw Doctors
Delosrentos
Duke Special
The Blizzards
Kila

All these bands make a living from the Irish scene. Place like Whelans in Dublin and the Rosin Dubh in Galway are full of Irish bands. I think it is very vibrant.

We are under no obligation to automatically like Irish made music. But alot of it is quite good and Irish people gererally love live music.

collectively called 'the who?'

Oh The Humanity · 16-10-2009 03:48PM

the Irish 'music scene'.............zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Jesus Juice · 16-10-2009 03:58PM

The amount of local bands in Ireland is crazy.It's surprising that Ireland isnt bursting with new bands every week.

But we live in Ireland where nothing is ever done right and everything is shiote.

me-skywalker · 16-10-2009 04:16PM

Ive first hand experience of the scene.

Let me ask you all.. have you ever just randomly go out to a gigging venue to check out the bands? not bands that are 'famous' or semi-'big'.

I mean just like venues like dorans, the village,the hub, slatterys etc etc...
like just walk by a venue and see there's acts on and go in? NO!

MarkN · 16-10-2009 04:28PM

First of all, Irish bands don't have a 'right' to airplay. If you've got the appeal that a station programmer is looking for that he/she feels will sound ok on their business then you'll get played. Secondly, a lot of it is loud, heavy, shyte that isn't suitable for a lot of stations - particularly hit music stations. Why does someone that tunes into the likes of the stations mentioned already in this thread want to hear a new Irish band they've never heard of? The answer is they don't.

I am the head of music in a large Irish station and only yesterday met the Shoos after playing them for a couple of months, they couldn't have been more grateful for the support - just one example. What's more if you hate the Coronas, there's 100 other people that love them, if they were getting no airplay and deemed "cool" then you would probably like them, being a victim of your own success happens a lot in this country as once you do actually make it you're a 'sell-out' of some sort.

I hear Phantom constantly doing their bit for Irish music, I hear uncovered unplugged gigs on many radio stations, but these Irish bands don't keep the stations afloat - the new single from Lady Gaga or Kings of Leon does.

Maybe a lot of people don't understand the job of a radio station - to appeal to the biggest amount of audience you can to make the most amount of money you can. That's it, in a sentence.

Your typical fan of Irish music that doesn't stretch as far as the success of the Coronas or The Blizzards probably doesn't even have the likes of 104, 98, Spin preset on their radio so why would stations even bother to try draw them when they know they won't be able to survive by playing the songs less people demand and dropping the ones they do want to hear in return?

Just giving you the look of the world from inside.

gerTheGreat · 16-10-2009 05:12PM

Pighead wrote: »

You simply can't tar everybody with the same brush ejmaztec. It's like Pighead saying "No point in cheering on those Irish showjumping horses in the Olympics, sure they're all on drugs"

Two example in the last few Olympics...Michelle Smith being the second.

orourkeda · 16-10-2009 05:24PM

It's been downhill all the way for the irish music scene since the demise of Hank Halfhead and the rambling turkeys.

The Irish music industry - no support for its own?

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