Barak Obama wins Nobel Peace Prize

Turtwig · 09-10-2009 10:47AM

How does it? Must people here seem to think that Obama has done nothing...

He's done a heck of alot in his first year.
Especially towards cleaning up the sh1t after the other guy..

wudangclan · 09-10-2009 10:49AM

Malty_T wrote: »

How does it? Must people here seem to think that Obama has done nothing...

He's done a heck of alot in his first year.

what has he done precisely?

PrestonDaly · 09-10-2009 10:50AM

Malty_T wrote: »

Firstly Iran unlike Iraq does seem to be building Nuclear Weapons...two plants in the same area is a sign of trying to mask radiation..

:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

Wow wow wow wwwoooooowwwwwwwwwww buddy.

Are you for real?????

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/WMDlies.html

Agricola · 09-10-2009 10:51AM

Hey Bono, I'ma let you finish, but Baracks got one of the best world peace records of all time!

Mr Benevolent · 09-10-2009 10:53AM

Well, that's the Nobel prizes discredited. Might as well give me one based on the fact that I've never started a war in my life (so far).

ejmaztec · 09-10-2009 10:55AM

It's a cunning Iranian plan. After a mass bribery session, they got Obama the prize, thinking that he would be too embarrassed to attack them with the Peace prize under his belt.

cornbb · 09-10-2009 10:57AM

Maybe I'm stating the obvious, but Omama didn't get them into those Middle Eastern wars (he was one of the only Senators who spoke up against them in fact), and he has been charged with getting them out... he has helped to cool relations with Iran (those of you who think there's a hope in hell he'll invade Iran must be nuts) and he has basically been handing out olive branches to every country/ethnicity/organisation that the Bush administration pissed off. He has an extraordinary ability to calm tempers and win cross-partisan support - a prerequisite for any sort of successful peace process.

I mean I'm sure there are other candidates who would deserve the nobel prize but its not like Obama is particularly undeserving...

PrestonDaly · 09-10-2009 10:59AM

cornbb wrote: »

Omama didn't get them into those Middle Eastern wars , and he has been charged with getting them out...

Laughin' my head off.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/feb/18/obama-afghanistan-troops

positron · 09-10-2009 11:00AM

Obama deserves it.

His messages during his campaign and what he has done since got elected has changed how the world perceives America.

Who do you think ALL of the world (all, not just west) was slightly uncomfortable about all along? Certainly not Taliban. It was Bush and the American army. China and every other large nation in the world was very worried about how things were going, and Obama has turned around that image with his message, method and reasoning.

He basically brought peace to a lot of nations, just by kicking out Bush and Cheney etc. That's what the award is for!

It's probably a bit premature - because he is still in power and what if he does a u-turn..! Ouch!

robinph · 09-10-2009 11:02AM

cornbb wrote: »

Maybe I'm stating the obvious, but Omama didn't get them into those Middle Eastern wars (he was one of the only Senators who spoke up against them in fact), and he has been charged with getting them out... he has helped to cool relations with Iran (those of you who think there's a hope in hell he'll invade Iran must be nuts) and he has basically been handing out olive branches to every country/ethnicity/organisation that the Bush administration pissed off.

I mean I'm sure there are other candidates who would deserve the nobel prize but its not like Obama is particularly undeserving...

Wouldn't suggest that what he is doing is wrong, just that he's not really finished doing it yet.

Seems that it is actually more of an award for what they hope he will do rather than what he has done this time.

Thorbjoern Jagland wrote:

"It was because we would like to support what he is trying to achieve".

Turtwig · 09-10-2009 11:04AM

wudangclan wrote: »

what has he done precisely?

Bluntly:

Closure Of Qauntanamo.
Ridding World of Nuclear Weapons.
Work Towards Withdrawal in Iraq.
Health Care Reform
Advancement of Science Research.
Promotion of Public Disclosures to Media.
Global Climate Change.
Very Strong Criticism of Mugabe, and showed strong support for Morgan T...(can't spell his name) in Zimbabwe
Reignite discussions with China, DPRK, and South Korea.
Work towards improving relations with Europe.
Work towards restoring ties with Turkey, which Bush almost pulled apart.
...
THere's more but that's off the top of me head:o
Must stay, though I still think he got it too early, should have waited to see what he accomplished in four years.

General Zod · 09-10-2009 11:05AM

wudangclan wrote: »

what has he done precisely?

started discussion with Iran again.

builttospill · 09-10-2009 11:07AM

Unbelievable. They may as well have given it to Bertie Bassett. Surely now the Lovely Girls Competition has surpassed this charade in terms of excellence...

humanji · 09-10-2009 11:09AM

PrestonDaly wrote: »

Laughin' my head off.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/feb/18/obama-afghanistan-troops

Who's more deserving?

PrestonDaly · 09-10-2009 11:11AM

humanji wrote: »

Who's more deserving?

I could not give a toss who gets the "Nobel Peace Prize"

Means nuffin' to me.

robinph · 09-10-2009 11:16AM

Closure Of Qauntanamo. Still open I believe, but they are no longer taking in new guests at least and still trying to off load the last few
Ridding World of Nuclear Weapons. - Still have them
Work Towards Withdrawal in Iraq.
Health Care Reform - Not yet
Advancement of Science Research.
Promotion of Public Disclosures to Media.
Global Climate Change. - Wasn't aware of the climate change suddenly
reversing
Very Strong Criticism of Mugabe, and showed strong support for Morgan T...(can't spell his name) in Zimbabwe
Reignite discussions with China, DPRK, and South Korea.
Work towards improving relations with Europe.
Work towards restoring ties with Turkey, which Bush almost pulled apart.
...

Dunno about the last few, but they are all "work towards" not "has done" things.

Jack Sheehan · 09-10-2009 11:16AM

PrestonDaly wrote: »

I could not give a toss who gets the "Nobel Peace Prize"

Means nuffin' to me.

Is that why you've made about half of your total posts in this thread?

IvySlayer · 09-10-2009 11:17AM

missingtime wrote: »

Its for his attempts to continue nuclear disarmament and his peace efforts in the middle east.

Peace efforts in the middle east include taking soldiers out of one country and putting more into another?

For getting rid of a few thousand nukes he should be applauded? He still has thousands more. It was a PR stunt. 'Oh look at me I'm a good man'

Reducing their nukes only saved them money from paying the maintenance bill.

There is no way he deserves the nobel peace prize. I hope he proves me wrong when he does something that's actually going to bring peace.

humanji · 09-10-2009 11:20AM

PrestonDaly wrote: »

I could not give a toss who gets the "Nobel Peace Prize"

Means nuffin' to me.

So you don't mind Obama getting it then?

Cianos · 09-10-2009 11:31AM

Day to day reality seems it's just same old business as usual in Washington.

Key US lawmakers passed legislation Thursday extending three key provisions of the PATRIOT Act, the sweeping intelligence bill enacted after the September 11, 2001 attacks.

Backing a White House request, the Senate Judiciary Committee passed the measure 11 votes to 8 to extend until 2013 three clauses that would have expired by 31 December. The bill now heads to the full Senate for a vote.

The provisions include the "roving wiretap" clause, used to monitor mobile communications of individuals using multiple telephone lines, and the "lone-wolf" provision, which enables spying on individuals suspected of terrorist activity but with no obvious connection to extremist groups.

Lawmakers also extended the life of controversial section 215, known as the "library records provision" that allows government agencies to access individual's library history.

The committee had earlier met in a closed-door meeting with members of the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the intelligence community on ensuring their actions would not impede investigations already underway.

The senators also debated freeing up law enforcement actions that have been hampered by legislation and court rulings since the first program was launched by former president George W. Bush in the wake of 9/11, which enabled collecting sensitive information for years without a court order.

Republicans senators have remained critical of placing restrictions on the intelligence community, saying they should more of a free hand in the early stages of investigations.

But their Democratic counterparts have decried the fact that the provisions still do not in their view adequately respect the privacy of ordinary Americans.

Democratic Senator Russ Feingold said he feared handing a "blank check" to law enforcement agencies and criticized the Democrat-controlled committee for not passing safeguards that even Republicans supported during the Bush administration.

"Among the most significant problems is the failure to include an improved standard for Section 215 orders, even though a Republican controlled Judiciary Committee unanimously supported including the same standard in 2005," he said in a media advisory.

"But what was most upsetting was the apparent willingness of too many members to defer completely to behind the scenes complaints from the FBI and the Justice Department, even though the administration has yet to take a public position on any of the improvements that I and other senators have proposed. ... [While] I am left scratching my head trying to understand how a committee controlled by a wide Democratic margin could support the bill it approved today, I will continue to work with my colleagues to try to make improvements to this bill."

Michael Macleod-Ball, acting director of the American Civil Liberties Union's Washington legislative office said the rights group was "disappointed" that further moves were not made to protect civil liberties.

"This truly was a missed opportunity for the Senate Judiciary Committee to right the wrongs of the PATRIOT Act," he said.

"We urge the Senate to adopt amendments on the floor that will bring this bill in line with the Constitution."

source

PrestonDaly · 09-10-2009 11:32AM

Jack Sheehan wrote: »

Is that why you've made about half of your total posts in this thread?

I detest this deification of Barry Obama by the mass media, that is why I have posted in this thread.

humanji wrote: »

So you don't mind Obama getting it then?

Give it to an animal in the zoo for all I care.

Mark200 · 09-10-2009 11:55AM

PrestonDaly wrote: »

Laughin' my head off.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/feb/18/obama-afghanistan-troops

He has to deal effectively with the situation he was dealt. More troops will hopefully bring more security and therefore greater peace. And, as I said already in this topic, it was said yesterday that he is considering the possibility of allowing the Taliban to have a say in the future of Afghanistan.

humanji wrote: »

Who's more deserving?

Although I'm a huge supporter of Obama, I think someone like Morgan Tsvangirai was more deserving. Although saying that, any person who posts in this topic saying Obama has done nothing to be deserving of the Nobel Peace Prize is either lying or is very well misinformed.

robinph wrote: »

Closure Of Qauntanamo. Still open I believe, but they are no longer taking in new guests at least and still trying to off load the last few

He has set a target date for it to be closed, which was one year from the time he got into office. He can just snap his fingers and expect all the prisoners and logistics involved in closing Guantanamo to just disappear

robinph wrote: »

Ridding World of Nuclear Weapons. - Still have them

"Ridding" implies that he is in the process. Which he is. He has signed a new deal with Russia for a process to disarm thousands of more nukes over the next few years, and has many times given speeches detailing his plans to have a world without them

robinph wrote: »

Work Towards Withdrawal in Iraq.
Work Towards Withdrawal in Iraq.
Health Care Reform - Not yet
Advancement of Science Research.
Promotion of Public Disclosures to Media.
Global Climate Change. - Wasn't aware of the climate change suddenly
reversing
Very Strong Criticism of Mugabe, and showed strong support for Morgan T...(can't spell his name) in Zimbabwe
Reignite discussions with China, DPRK, and South Korea.
Work towards improving relations with Europe.
Work towards restoring ties with Turkey, which Bush almost pulled apart.
...

Dunno about the last few, but they are all "work towards" not "has done" things.
Health Care Reform - Not yet
Advancement of Science Research.
Promotion of Public Disclosures to Media.
Global Climate Change. - Wasn't aware of the climate change suddenly
reversing
Very Strong Criticism of Mugabe, and showed strong support for Morgan T...(can't spell his name) in Zimbabwe
Reignite discussions with China, DPRK, and South Korea.
Work towards improving relations with Europe.
Work towards restoring ties with Turkey, which Bush almost pulled apart.
...

Dunno about the last few, but they are all "work towards" not "has done" things.

All of your other points are extremely pedantic and you're completely ignoring the main reason why he was given this award: His extraordinary efforts. Success isn't always a necessity for the Nobel Peace Prize, it's your intentions and it is obviously recognising that although he has not yet accomplished everything, he is still trying his best.

cornbb · 09-10-2009 12:12PM

Even the tone of his election campaign was extraordinary calming and pacifist. The fact that he got elected was a major boost for world peace even before he sat down in the Oval office. He's not going to change the world for 9 months. The fact that he hasn't "won" the middle eastern wars doesn't mean anything. Pulling out prematurely (hurhurhur) would be a mistake. He was obviously awarded the peace prize due to his ability to bring people together, which he has done admirably so far.

Sir Gallagher · 09-10-2009 12:15PM

Seems as though slating Obama is the cool thing to do these days, pathetic and small time.

Long Onion · 09-10-2009 12:19PM

PrestonDaly wrote: »

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/feb/18/obama-anistan-troops

Damn you sir, I thought this link referred to a large army being amassed by Brad Pitt's ex with the aim of taking out Angelina Jolie ...

Bandit12 · 09-10-2009 12:20PM

Ha Ha. There gonna look pretty stupid when the US invades Iran.

orourkeda · 09-10-2009 12:25PM

wudangclan wrote: »

is this for real?
i'm not still in bed dreaming this?

That was my first thought too. Its incredible.

kincsem · 09-10-2009 12:26PM

robinph wrote: »

Why?
He's only been in the job for 9 months, what has he actually done yet?

Replacing George W Bush probably clinched it.

Long Onion · 09-10-2009 12:27PM

kincsem wrote: »

Raping George W Bush probably clinched it.

FYP

Morlar · 09-10-2009 12:31PM

Sir Gallagher wrote: »

Seems as though slating Obama is the cool thing to do these days, pathetic and small time.

No one is slating him, the question is what has he actually achieved to merit a nobel peace prize ? And I dont mean what has he said his intentions/plans / etc are, but his achievements.

If ever there was a time for Kanye to interrupt an acceptance speech this will be it.

Barak Obama wins Nobel Peace Prize

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