Barak Obama wins Nobel Peace Prize

robinph · 09-10-2009 9:02am #1

Why?

He's only been in the job for 9 months, what has he actually done yet?

kippy · 09-10-2009 9:03am

robinph wrote: »

Why?

He's only been in the job for 9 months, what has he actually done yet?

Is it 'cos 'e is black?

Semi serious, first black man to hold that position in the US.
Not sure how close to peach prizes that is though.

KerranJast · 09-10-2009 9:03am

Sauce or gtfo

General Zod · 09-10-2009 9:04am

disregard, I'm wrong

Mark200 · 09-10-2009 9:06am

robinph wrote: »

Why?

He's only been in the job for 9 months, what has he actually done yet?

If you're watching Sky News, the guy from the Nobel Peace Prize just explained why. Very surprising announcement but the reasons given were very appropriate in my opinion.

robinph · 09-10-2009 9:07am

KerranJast wrote: »

Sauce or gtfo

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8298580.stm

super_furry · 09-10-2009 9:10am

Emmm....how many wars does he currently have the US involved in?

KerranJast · 09-10-2009 9:10am

Sweet Zombie Jesus. Ultimate facepalm at that. The guys only been in the job 9 months and has achieved zip so far.

walshb · 09-10-2009 9:10am

Hey, Commander in Chief of forces engaged in war(s) wins a peace prize. That's a new one!:rolleyes:

deadhead13 · 09-10-2009 9:11am

Its a bit permature isn't it. Or is because he is not Geogre W.

PrestonDaly · 09-10-2009 9:17am

Laughin' my head off at this.

Little Barry O wins the peace prize. They will stop at nothing to promote this man, and the masses swallow the lot.

PrestonDaly · 09-10-2009 9:18am

super_furry wrote: »

Emmm....how many wars does he currently have the US involved in?

Three at the minute, and we are just getting revvvvveeeddddd up for those Iranians.

http://www.newstatesman.com/international-politics/2009/10/iran-nuclear-pilger-obama

biko · 09-10-2009 9:19am

They should postpone it until US pulls out of Afghanistan & Iraq, and does not attack Iran.

MagicMarker · 09-10-2009 9:21am

Can anyone who is watching sky news be kind enough to post these so called reasons for this decision?

PrestonDaly · 09-10-2009 9:24am

MagicMarker wrote: »

Can anyone who is watching sky news be kind enough to post these so called reasons for this decision?

Because Barry O is the new messiah, what more do you want. Have you not seen the Guinness adverts, the lads in Africs shout "OBAMA" before they start drinking.

missingtime · 09-10-2009 9:27am

Its for his attempts to continue nuclear disarmament and his peace efforts in the middle east.

Wazdakka · 09-10-2009 9:27am

HA!! :pac:

What a joke.

Might as well give the prize to Robert Mugabe.
As a leader He's involved in less armed conflict at the moment.

Heres me thinking that it's just Ireland that went batshít insane over the last year or so.
Nice to know the rest of the world are getting to be as delusional as our elected representatives.,

wudangclan · 09-10-2009 9:29am

is this for real?
i'm not still in bed dreaming this?

Aidric · 09-10-2009 9:31am

Is Goebells writing this man's scripts from beyond the grave?

pikachucheeks · 09-10-2009 9:33am

Magnus wrote: »

They should postpone it until US pulls out of Afghanistan & Iraq, and does not attack Iran.

Totally agree!

Is it not somewhat ironic - and ridiculous - to give a "peace" prize to the leader of a country involved in warfare?

PrestonDaly · 09-10-2009 9:34am

Aidric wrote: »

Is Goebells writing this man's scripts from beyond the grave?

Pure propaganda alright. The people who make these decisions are just mocking the masses, they have the public beaten down.

Prof.Badass · 09-10-2009 9:35am

The nobel prizes are a sham.

genericguy · 09-10-2009 9:36am

super_furry wrote: »

Emmm....how many wars does he currently have the US involved in?

all of them.

Turtwig · 09-10-2009 9:37am

To be fair to Obama, Afghanistan and Iraq (iirc he was definitely against this one) weren't his decisions, his pursuit of GCC and Nuclear weapons can only be seen as a good thing. Not alone that but so far he's had better dialogue with the world than his predecessor. Sci research has also being given a big boost.

It does seem a little fast though, given that it's only his first year..

humanji · 09-10-2009 9:38am

Maybe it's been a slow year. Has anyone else done anything of note?

PrestonDaly · 09-10-2009 9:40am

Malty_T wrote: »

his pursuit of GCC and Nuclear weapons can only be seen as a good thing.

:rolleyes: What an insight.

And what if you are living in Iran and about to get bombed out of it.

1.5 million innocents killed in Iraq so far, never mentioned.

Mark200 · 09-10-2009 9:44am

super_furry wrote: »

Emmm....how many wars does he currently have the US involved in?

He has already announced a target to get troops out of Iraq. And just as recently as yesterday it was announced he may consider allowing the Taliban to have a say in the direction of Afghanistan to lead to a peaceful ending.

Magnus wrote: »

They should postpone it until US pulls out of Afghanistan & Iraq, and does not attack Iran.

I said above about Iraq and Afghanistan, and he has already not attacked Iran...

MagicMarker wrote: »

Can anyone who is watching sky news be kind enough to post these so called reasons for this decision?

His 'extraordinary efforts' to bring about international dialogue, free the world from nuclear weapons, to resolve wars, and how he is a reminder to all of us that we need to take responsibility for the future of this world.

PrestonDaly wrote: »

:rolleyes: What an insight.

And what if you are living in Iran and about to get bombed out of it.

1.5 million innocents killed in Iraq so far, never mentioned.

Being a president now does not make you responsible for the actions of the previous president.

markok84 · 09-10-2009 9:44am

he stole George Clooneys thunder.

Turtwig · 09-10-2009 9:44am

PrestonDaly wrote: »

:rolleyes: What an insight.

And what if you are living in Iran and about to get bombed out of it.

1.5 million innocents killed in Iraq so far, never mentioned.

Firstly Iran unlike Iraq does seem to be building Nuclear Weapons...two plants in the same area is a sign of trying to mask radiation.
Not attack yet though.

Secondly, you'll note in my post that I think he was against the Iraq War. He's just been stuck in the deep end by the gobshyte from before.

cosmic · 09-10-2009 9:45am

I bet Bono's well p*ssed off he hasn't gotten one yet

Robxxx7 · 09-10-2009 9:45am

feel sorry for all those deserving people who have won it in the past ..makes a mockery of it now

Turtwig · 09-10-2009 9:47am

How does it? Must people here seem to think that Obama has done nothing...

He's done a heck of alot in his first year.
Especially towards cleaning up the sh1t after the other guy..

wudangclan · 09-10-2009 9:49am

Malty_T wrote: »

How does it? Must people here seem to think that Obama has done nothing...

He's done a heck of alot in his first year.

what has he done precisely?

PrestonDaly · 09-10-2009 9:50am

Malty_T wrote: »

Firstly Iran unlike Iraq does seem to be building Nuclear Weapons...two plants in the same area is a sign of trying to mask radiation..

:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

Wow wow wow wwwoooooowwwwwwwwwww buddy.

Are you for real?????

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/WMDlies.html

Agricola · 09-10-2009 9:51am

Hey Bono, I'ma let you finish, but Baracks got one of the best world peace records of all time!

Mr Benevolent · 09-10-2009 9:53am

Well, that's the Nobel prizes discredited. Might as well give me one based on the fact that I've never started a war in my life (so far).

ejmaztec · 09-10-2009 9:55am

It's a cunning Iranian plan. After a mass bribery session, they got Obama the prize, thinking that he would be too embarrassed to attack them with the Peace prize under his belt.

cornbb · 09-10-2009 9:57am

Maybe I'm stating the obvious, but Omama didn't get them into those Middle Eastern wars (he was one of the only Senators who spoke up against them in fact), and he has been charged with getting them out... he has helped to cool relations with Iran (those of you who think there's a hope in hell he'll invade Iran must be nuts) and he has basically been handing out olive branches to every country/ethnicity/organisation that the Bush administration pissed off. He has an extraordinary ability to calm tempers and win cross-partisan support - a prerequisite for any sort of successful peace process.

I mean I'm sure there are other candidates who would deserve the nobel prize but its not like Obama is particularly undeserving...

PrestonDaly · 09-10-2009 9:59am

cornbb wrote: »

Omama didn't get them into those Middle Eastern wars , and he has been charged with getting them out...

Laughin' my head off.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/feb/18/obama-afghanistan-troops

positron · 09-10-2009 10:00am

Obama deserves it.

His messages during his campaign and what he has done since got elected has changed how the world perceives America.

Who do you think ALL of the world (all, not just west) was slightly uncomfortable about all along? Certainly not Taliban. It was Bush and the American army. China and every other large nation in the world was very worried about how things were going, and Obama has turned around that image with his message, method and reasoning.

He basically brought peace to a lot of nations, just by kicking out Bush and Cheney etc. That's what the award is for!

It's probably a bit premature - because he is still in power and what if he does a u-turn..! Ouch!

robinph · 09-10-2009 10:02am

cornbb wrote: »

Maybe I'm stating the obvious, but Omama didn't get them into those Middle Eastern wars (he was one of the only Senators who spoke up against them in fact), and he has been charged with getting them out... he has helped to cool relations with Iran (those of you who think there's a hope in hell he'll invade Iran must be nuts) and he has basically been handing out olive branches to every country/ethnicity/organisation that the Bush administration pissed off.

I mean I'm sure there are other candidates who would deserve the nobel prize but its not like Obama is particularly undeserving...

Wouldn't suggest that what he is doing is wrong, just that he's not really finished doing it yet.

Seems that it is actually more of an award for what they hope he will do rather than what he has done this time.

Thorbjoern Jagland wrote:

"It was because we would like to support what he is trying to achieve".

Turtwig · 09-10-2009 10:04am

wudangclan wrote: »

what has he done precisely?

Bluntly:

Closure Of Qauntanamo.
Ridding World of Nuclear Weapons.
Work Towards Withdrawal in Iraq.
Health Care Reform
Advancement of Science Research.
Promotion of Public Disclosures to Media.
Global Climate Change.
Very Strong Criticism of Mugabe, and showed strong support for Morgan T...(can't spell his name) in Zimbabwe
Reignite discussions with China, DPRK, and South Korea.
Work towards improving relations with Europe.
Work towards restoring ties with Turkey, which Bush almost pulled apart.
...
THere's more but that's off the top of me head:o
Must stay, though I still think he got it too early, should have waited to see what he accomplished in four years.

General Zod · 09-10-2009 10:05am

wudangclan wrote: »

what has he done precisely?

started discussion with Iran again.

builttospill · 09-10-2009 10:07am

Unbelievable. They may as well have given it to Bertie Bassett. Surely now the Lovely Girls Competition has surpassed this charade in terms of excellence...

humanji · 09-10-2009 10:09am

PrestonDaly wrote: »

Laughin' my head off.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/feb/18/obama-afghanistan-troops

Who's more deserving?

PrestonDaly · 09-10-2009 10:11am

humanji wrote: »

Who's more deserving?

I could not give a toss who gets the "Nobel Peace Prize"

Means nuffin' to me.

robinph · 09-10-2009 10:16am

Closure Of Qauntanamo. Still open I believe, but they are no longer taking in new guests at least and still trying to off load the last few
Ridding World of Nuclear Weapons. - Still have them
Work Towards Withdrawal in Iraq.
Health Care Reform - Not yet
Advancement of Science Research.
Promotion of Public Disclosures to Media.
Global Climate Change. - Wasn't aware of the climate change suddenly
reversing
Very Strong Criticism of Mugabe, and showed strong support for Morgan T...(can't spell his name) in Zimbabwe
Reignite discussions with China, DPRK, and South Korea.
Work towards improving relations with Europe.
Work towards restoring ties with Turkey, which Bush almost pulled apart.
...

Dunno about the last few, but they are all "work towards" not "has done" things.

Jack Sheehan · 09-10-2009 10:16am

PrestonDaly wrote: »

I could not give a toss who gets the "Nobel Peace Prize"

Means nuffin' to me.

Is that why you've made about half of your total posts in this thread?

IvySlayer · 09-10-2009 10:17am

missingtime wrote: »

Its for his attempts to continue nuclear disarmament and his peace efforts in the middle east.

Peace efforts in the middle east include taking soldiers out of one country and putting more into another?

For getting rid of a few thousand nukes he should be applauded? He still has thousands more. It was a PR stunt. 'Oh look at me I'm a good man'

Reducing their nukes only saved them money from paying the maintenance bill.

There is no way he deserves the nobel peace prize. I hope he proves me wrong when he does something that's actually going to bring peace.

humanji · 09-10-2009 10:20am

PrestonDaly wrote: »

I could not give a toss who gets the "Nobel Peace Prize"

Means nuffin' to me.

So you don't mind Obama getting it then?

Cianos · 09-10-2009 10:31am

Day to day reality seems it's just same old business as usual in Washington.

Key US lawmakers passed legislation Thursday extending three key provisions of the PATRIOT Act, the sweeping intelligence bill enacted after the September 11, 2001 attacks.

Backing a White House request, the Senate Judiciary Committee passed the measure 11 votes to 8 to extend until 2013 three clauses that would have expired by 31 December. The bill now heads to the full Senate for a vote.

The provisions include the "roving wiretap" clause, used to monitor mobile communications of individuals using multiple telephone lines, and the "lone-wolf" provision, which enables spying on individuals suspected of terrorist activity but with no obvious connection to extremist groups.

Lawmakers also extended the life of controversial section 215, known as the "library records provision" that allows government agencies to access individual's library history.

The committee had earlier met in a closed-door meeting with members of the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the intelligence community on ensuring their actions would not impede investigations already underway.

The senators also debated freeing up law enforcement actions that have been hampered by legislation and court rulings since the first program was launched by former president George W. Bush in the wake of 9/11, which enabled collecting sensitive information for years without a court order.

Republicans senators have remained critical of placing restrictions on the intelligence community, saying they should more of a free hand in the early stages of investigations.

But their Democratic counterparts have decried the fact that the provisions still do not in their view adequately respect the privacy of ordinary Americans.

Democratic Senator Russ Feingold said he feared handing a "blank check" to law enforcement agencies and criticized the Democrat-controlled committee for not passing safeguards that even Republicans supported during the Bush administration.

"Among the most significant problems is the failure to include an improved standard for Section 215 orders, even though a Republican controlled Judiciary Committee unanimously supported including the same standard in 2005," he said in a media advisory.

"But what was most upsetting was the apparent willingness of too many members to defer completely to behind the scenes complaints from the FBI and the Justice Department, even though the administration has yet to take a public position on any of the improvements that I and other senators have proposed. ... [While] I am left scratching my head trying to understand how a committee controlled by a wide Democratic margin could support the bill it approved today, I will continue to work with my colleagues to try to make improvements to this bill."

Michael Macleod-Ball, acting director of the American Civil Liberties Union's Washington legislative office said the rights group was "disappointed" that further moves were not made to protect civil liberties.

"This truly was a missed opportunity for the Senate Judiciary Committee to right the wrongs of the PATRIOT Act," he said.

"We urge the Senate to adopt amendments on the floor that will bring this bill in line with the Constitution."

source

Barak Obama wins Nobel Peace Prize

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