3e moving to 105 on Sky?

Widescreen · 01-10-2009 04:02PM

maybe someone should send a text to Ireland AM about it, Cagney seems to know everything about everything!!!

greendom · 01-10-2009 05:33PM

3e Shows

30 Rock
American Dad
Chuck
CSI
CSI Miami
Curb your Enthusiasm
Dexter
Europa League
Family Guy
Fringe
Hells Kitchen USA
House
Its always sunny in philadelphia
Movie of the Week
Raising the Bar
Sex and the City
Supernatural
The Closer
The Starter Wife
The US Office
True Beauty

They really should move a bit closer to New York

Dman001 · 01-10-2009 08:13PM

3e has great programmes on. They got the rights to Season 5 of The Office while in the UK ITV hasn't even shown Season 4. Plus, they got the rights to House and In Treatment before Sky. It's great for US shows that aren't available on other channels.

Elmo · 01-10-2009 08:18PM

Dman001 wrote: »

3e has great programmes on. They got the rights to Season 5 of The Office while in the UK ITV hasn't even shown Season 4. Plus, they got the rights to House and In Treatment before Sky. It's great for US shows that aren't available on other channels.

Other than great American shows that are shown an hour later on other channels what use is 3e at least when the began as Channel 6 they had some Irish music programmes, a film review show and even their own expose.

All of the shows bought for 3e by TV3 could easily be shown on TV3.

I wouldn't mind if TV3 were planning new shows for 3e but they can't call them a Public Service Broadcaster. 3e is a commercial entertainment channel just as much as Sky One.

In Treatment wasn't pick up by Sky AFAIK and I don't think it has been on British TV, I would have though it would have worked well on More 4 or BBC 4. Well done to TV3 for picking it up but it seemed very out of place on 3e.

medoc · 01-10-2009 09:59PM

In Treatment is to be shown on Sky Arts ( not sure if its 1 or 2). I mailed TV3 and 3e on a few ocasions about the widescreen issue ages ago but I got no reply, I dont have the channel any more.

Elmo · 01-10-2009 10:49PM

medoc wrote: »

In Treatment is to be shown on Sky Arts ( not sure if its 1 or 2). I mailed TV3 and 3e on a few ocasions about the widescreen issue ages ago but I got no reply, I dont have the channel any more.

Sky and Arts don't go together really.

Mossy Monk · 01-10-2009 11:01PM

Elmo wrote: »

Sky and Arts don't go together really.

Sky Arts 1 and 2 are two of the better channels imo.

Elmo · 01-10-2009 11:47PM

Mossy Monk wrote: »

Sky Arts 1 and 2 are two of the better channels imo.

To explain myself: - I stated that In Treatment doesn't suit 3e and I was thinking that Sky Arts was a bit Ironic. I have never seen either Sky Arts 1 or 2 but I am sure they are 20times better than any other sky channel.

Mossy Monk · 02-10-2009 08:09AM

Elmo wrote: »

I have never seen either Sky Arts 1 or 2 but I am sure they are 20times better than any other sky channel.

Dont be stupid.

Elmo · 02-10-2009 10:18AM

Mossy Monk wrote: »

Dont be stupid.

Okay 100 times

redfacedbear · 02-10-2009 04:17PM

Dman001 wrote: »

3e has great programmes on. They got the rights to Season 5 of The Office while in the UK ITV hasn't even shown Season 4. Plus, they got the rights to House and In Treatment before Sky. It's great for US shows that aren't available on other channels.

Yeah they've had some good shows, but I've noticed that they've been seriously dicking around with the schedule lately. Heroes ended up dumped in a Sunday afternoon slot, The US Office danced around the schedule as well. Not to mention that now that they're owned by TV3 they've become a bit of a dumping ground for rubbish like the Xtra Factor and Corrie repeats that I'd have no truck with

medoc · 02-10-2009 04:50PM

JDxtra wrote: »

If they do move, maybe one of their staff will actually watch the channel and suddenly realise they have been broadcasting in the wrong aspect ratio for nearly a year.

Yea even they couldn't be bothered going that far up the EPG to watch it.:D They might make it as far as 105

02-10-2009 06:01PM

I have only ever watched it for Seinfeld!

Dman001 · 02-10-2009 09:02PM

redfacedbear wrote: »

Yeah they've had some good shows, but I've noticed that they've been seriously dicking around with the schedule lately. Heroes ended up dumped in a Sunday afternoon slot, The US Office danced around the schedule as well. Not to mention that now that they're owned by TV3 they've become a bit of a dumping ground for rubbish like the Xtra Factor and Corrie repeats that I'd have no truck with

Yeah there scheduling is terrible but the good aul Sky + box sorts that out.

Liam Byrne · 03-10-2009 01:06AM

icdg wrote: »

Even as an Irish station, what gives it the right to 105 over either Setanta Ireland or City Channel (yes, I know the latter's not on Sky, but say it were...)

Well, whatever about the merits or otherwise of 3e or Setanta being on Sky, why would you reckon that a local Dublin TV station should be on it ?

Why not Channel South ?

manutd · 03-10-2009 01:16PM

It's a piece of s**t, leave it there, for say if RTE Sport or RTE News 24 ever comes, they are badly needed now.

Dman001 · 03-10-2009 06:08PM

manutd wrote: »

It's a piece of s**t, leave it there, for say if RTE Sport or RTE News 24 ever comes, they are badly needed now.

I really hope RTE don't create these channels over a HD channel.

Elmo · 03-10-2009 08:01PM

Dman001 wrote: »

I really hope RTE don't create these channels over a HD channel.

RTÉ LIVE HD is what is required, a Sports/News channel with live sports and News when there is no live sports.

manutd · 03-10-2009 08:23PM

Elmo wrote: »

RTÉ LIVE HD is what is required, a Sports/News channel with live sports and News when there is no live sports.

Fair point, there would be no live sport on it and the news would be the same as the live news on the rte player.

frankymail · 04-10-2009 07:35PM

I Read a piece from during the week about this whole move on the Sky EPG and as I think was already said here TV3 went to the BCI and got the license agreement for 3e changed to coinside with TV3 as a "public service broadcaster". With this being the main reason BskyB allowed the move, I was thinking, does this not mean that TV3 could or maybe should broadcast 3e on terrestrial as a public serivce channel?

Charles Slane · 04-10-2009 07:56PM

frankymail wrote: »

I Read a piece from during the week about this whole move on the Sky EPG and as I think was already said here TV3 went to the BCI and got the license agreement for 3e changed to coinside with TV3 as a "public service broadcaster". With this being the main reason BskyB allowed the move, I was thinking, does this not mean that TV3 could or maybe should broadcast 3e on terrestrial as a public serivce channel?

I hope so. Unlike a lot of the previous posters I watch 3e quite a bit. Would be good if TV3 sorted their widescreen switching - that may be more likely with this move....

G_R · 04-10-2009 08:02PM

frankymail wrote: »

I Read a piece from during the week about this whole move on the Sky EPG and as I think was already said here TV3 went to the BCI and got the license agreement for 3e changed to coinside with TV3 as a "public service broadcaster". With this being the main reason BskyB allowed the move, I was thinking, does this not mean that TV3 could or maybe should broadcast 3e on terrestrial as a public serivce channel?

i dont think they will because Irish Terrestrial will be a thing of the past soon enough when DTT is introduced, im sure it'll be part of that platform once its released

ynotdu · 04-10-2009 08:32PM

before channel 5 could launch on terrestrial in the UK every household in the country had to be retuned at the cost to five of an engineer call to each home:eek:
thats NEVER going to happen here now.
RTE are so skint i dont think they will be launching new channels anytime soon,so no matter how people fee labout 3e and it.s public service commitment:rolleyes:,for the conveniance of viewers giving it the 105 spot makes sense in the medium term.(RTE even kaiboshed its plans for RTE International meant for ex-pats in the UK,its start up costs were only going to be e3million and its programming taken from RTE1/2&TG4,shame on them for not finding other ways to save 3million:mad:)

Although i,m not crazy about it's schedule 3e is IMO at least as good as sky1,Skys flagship and all the millions at their disposal.its schedule is DIRE:(

Charles Slane · 04-10-2009 08:40PM

dannym08 wrote: »

i dont think they will because Irish Terrestrial will be a thing of the past soon enough when DTT is introduced, im sure it'll be part of that platform once its released

I thought Frankymail meant he wondered if 3e would launch on digital terrestrial, not analogue terrestrial. He didn't specify analogue.

There won't be any new launches of channels on analogue terrestrial.

Cupart · 05-10-2009 08:49AM

I think the sole reason for 3e's move to 105 is that 3EXPOSÉ (oh why? oh why punish us more than necessarily?) is going to be launched on the opened up space on the Irish EPG at some time...

Also, shouldn't RTE1, 2 and TG4 be FTV and not encrypted on the Sky platform as they are "public broadcast service channels" (how that works with adverts is a different topic :rolleyes:)? All are broadcasted via 2D so the footprint is tight and auntie B does it. Yeah, I know it all comes down to copyrighted material etc...

MarkK · 05-10-2009 10:29AM

ynotdu wrote: »

before channel 5 could launch on terrestrial in the UK every household in the country had to be retuned at the cost to five of an engineer call to each home:eek:

That's a bit of an exaggeration, It was only necessary in some homes.
36 UHF was usually the preset "channel out" for VCRs as 35, 36 and 37 had been unused in the UK.
When C5 came along, it used 35 and 37 in many areas which meant VCRs needed to be retuned in those places.
The transmitter for Liverpool and Manchester for example had C5 on 48 so no retuning was needed. Other areas did not get C5 so did not need the retune.

More info here if you're interested.
http://625.uk.com/channel5/

celticfc · 05-10-2009 11:32AM

Cupart wrote: »

Also, shouldn't RTE1, 2 and TG4 be FTV and not encrypted on the Sky platform as they are "public broadcast service channels" (how that works with adverts is a different topic )?

Just remember that the BBC etc. are FTA these days, not FTV. A FTV channel is still encrypted but generally veiwable by means of a non-subscription card, such as with Sky 3, Five USA, Fiver etc.

Although this would be possible to do here in Ireland, it would be horrendously expensive and nobody has wanted to become involved in it, even when times were good financially. Other Sky/RTÉ reasons also make this highly unlikely.

Cupart wrote: »

All are broadcasted via 2D so the footprint is tight and auntie B does it. Yeah, I know it all comes down to copyrighted material etc...

The Beeb/ITV/C4/Five etc. are able to do it because they have to buy UK rights (GB & NI) with over 60 million people, they don't come cheap.

RTÉ/TV3/TG4 buy Irish rights only (circa 4 million people) so therefore they pay considerably less than their UK counterparts and they are generally able to get deals to show new shows before UK screens can show them.

The fact that the UK broadcasts overspill to Ireland** is small potatoes to the production companies and seems to be ignored. This doesn't work the other way around.

**(and indeed a good chunk of mainland Europe)

Anyway, apologies mods,....completely off topic and been discussed to death here before.

Widescreen · 05-10-2009 11:37AM

Although i,m not crazy about it's schedule 3e is IMO at least as good as sky1,Skys flagship and all the millions at their disposal.its schedule is DIRE:(

Only problem with 3e is that it seems to be turning into ITV2. Why did they have to screw it up with X Factor repeats. I for one am sick to death of the X Factor ,theres no escape from it! It must be the crappest programme ever created. Two of five Irish tv channels are now dominated by Britain, not good!

Elmo · 05-10-2009 11:59AM

dannym08 wrote: »

i dont think they will because Irish Terrestrial will be a thing of the past soon enough when DTT is introduced, im sure it'll be part of that platform once its released

Irish Terrestrial will be DTT. RTÉ will be in charge of the Public Service Mux while their subsidary company RTÉ NL will own the DTT network that One Vision will use to launch.

3e could be part of the Public Service Mux on role out however I really don't think TV3 have the money for that, they don't even pay to have full terrestrail analogue coverage I some how don't see them spending money on a DTT FTA service.

There are about 8 SD channels available on each MUX.

It it currently unlikely that TV3 will launch either 3Xpose or 3Today since they reduced their share of One Vision down to 10%.

As for RTÉ new services that also looks unlikely. As do Oireachtas TV and The Irish Film Board Channel.

Both TV3 and RTÉ stated that HD isn't a priority at the moment in the Sunday Business Post.

RTÉ/TV3/TG4 buy Irish rights only (circa 4 million people) so therefore they pay considerably less than their UK counterparts and they are generally able to get deals to show new shows before UK screens can show them.

I believe that cable service in the UK pay around the same as Irish broadcasters which must annoy the Irish Broadcasters, I am talking here about Living which is as accessible to Irish viewers as 3e and far less accessible to UK viewers as it is not FTA. Especially for RTÉ and TG4 in the north.

Elmo · 05-10-2009 12:02PM

Widescreen wrote: »

Only problem with 3e is that it seems to be turning into ITV2. Why did they have to screw it up with X Factor repeats. I for one am sick to death of the X Factor ,theres no escape from it! It must be the crappest programme ever created. Two of five Irish tv channels are now dominated by Britain, not good!

What annoies me about TV3 and 3e is that TV3 don't seem to understand the concept of spin off TV.

X-factor = ITV
Xtra-factor = ITV2
The Apprentice = BBC1
You're Fired = BBC2
Xpose = TV3
Xpose Xtra = 3e

This allows for cross promotion of TV channels.

3e moving to 105 on Sky?

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