If you like it then you shudda put a ring on it

Beetlebum · 25-09-2009 05:08PM #1

Hi Guys,

I'm sitting in work and this song just came on the radio for the millionth time (probably because Beyonce is a hero at the moment cause of the whole Kanya thing) but my God it absolutley does my head in.

I have nothing against Beyonce. I think she has an amazing voice, a stunningly beautiful face and body and she seems like a great girl but this song is just insulting.

I'm not a fan of her music anyway but it's the lyrics of this song that drive me nuts. She portrays women as these pushy, demanding bridezillas who can't wait to shove their partners up the aisle and if he doesn't propose within a certain timeframe 'he aint worth it girlfriend!'.

I, for one, have never wanted to get married and my two sisters are the same. One of them has recently found she's pregnant but she still has no desire for her boyfriend to 'put a ring on it'.

Anyone else agree that this song is insulting? I just think it gives out a horrible message (and sound)
Apologies to Beyonce fans!

Nevyn · 25-09-2009 05:15PM

ok I am not a fan of the lady or her style of music but I do get the point of the song.
It's not about shoving someone up the isle or about getting preggers it is about the fact
that to some people they do want to get married and they get into a serious relationship and move in together and then get told sure why bother getting married, why buy the cow when you are getting the milk for free.

They want a comittement and they are right to be clear about it and say it.
If you don't want to get married and are happy then fine and fair enough but I think that those who do should be clear and up front about it early enough in the relationship rather then feel lead up the garden path and end up bitter after 3/5 years.

Beetlebum · 25-09-2009 05:26PM

Thaedydal wrote: »

ok I am not a fan of the lady or her style of music but I do get the point of the song.
It's not about shoving someone up the isle or about getting preggers it is about the fact
that to some people they do want to get married and they get into a serious relationship and move in together and then get told sure why bother getting married, why buy the cow when you are getting the milk for free.

They want a comittement and they are right to be clear about it and say it.
If you don't want to get married and are happy then fine and fair enough but I think that those who do should be clear and up front about it early enough in the relationship rather then feel lead up the garden path and end up bitter after 3/5 years.

I haven't listened to the lyrics intently or anything but that line 'If you like it then you shoulda put a ring on it' just really bothers me.

Everybody is different and I knwo to some people it's extremely important and I don't think there's anything wrong with that, it's just not for me.

I know the song isn't about being pregnant. I just think it gives the impression that every girl wants a ring on her finger and I personally hate when women are portrayed that way.

jellie · 25-09-2009 05:27PM

Beetlebum wrote: »

I'm not a fan of her music anyway but it's the lyrics of this song that drive me nuts. She portrays women as these pushy, demanding bridezillas who can't wait to shove their partners up the aisle and if he doesn't propose within a certain timeframe 'he aint worth it girlfriend!'.

i took it more as a "hes jealous when he sees her with someone else, dont like it? oh well you shouldve married me". which - if you wanted marriage and he didnt - seems fair enough to me.

hate that feckin song tho, wrecks my head.

& not its gonna be stuck in my head

Silverfish · 25-09-2009 05:33PM

Well, in the song, she's actually talking about herself, as it were.

Cuz if you liked it then you should have put a ring on it
If you liked it then you shoulda put a ring on it
Don’t be mad once you see that he want it
If you liked it then you shoulda put a ring on it

She's upset as her young man wasn't interested after being with her for 3 years, and they broke up. When he saw another young man was showing interest, he became upset. She retaliated by saying 'Oh well, if you liked it, you should have shown some commitment. You know, a ring or something'

Vegeta · 25-09-2009 05:34PM

Just for discussion purposes

Single Ladies Lyrics

All the single ladies (7x)

Now put your hands up
Up in the club, we just broke up
I’m doing my own little thing
you Decided to dip but now you wanna trip
Cuz another brother noticed me
I’m up on him, he up on me
dont pay him any attention
cuz i cried my tears, GAVE three good years
Ya can’t be mad at me

[Chorus]
Cuz if you liked it then you should have put a ring on it
If you liked it then you shoulda put a ring on it
Don’t be mad once you see that he want it
If you liked it then you shoulda put a ring on it

wo oh ooh oh oh ooh oh oh ooh oh oh oh x2

(Chorus)Cuz if you liked it then you should have put a ring on it
If you liked it then you shoulda put a ring on it
Don’t be mad once you see that he want it
If you liked it then you shoulda put a ring on it

I got gloss on my lips, a man on my hips
hold me tighter than my Dereon jeans
acting up, drink in my cup
I couldnt care less what you think
I need no permission, did I mention
Dont pay him any attention
Cuz you had your turn
But now you gonna learn
What it really feels like to miss me

(Chorus)

Cuz if you liked it then you should have put a ring on it
If you liked it then you shoulda put a ring on it
Don’t be mad once you see that he want it
If you liked it then you shoulda put a ring on it

woo oh ooh oh oh ooh oh oh ooh oh oh oh 2x

Don’t treat me to the things of this world
I’m not that kind of girl
Your love is what I prefer, what I deserve
Is a man that makes me, then takes me
And delivers me to a destiny, to infinity and beyond
Pull me into your arms
Say I’m the one you WANT
If you don’t, you’ll be alone
And like a ghost I’ll be gone

All the single ladies (7x)
Now put your hands up
woo oh ooh oh oh ooh oh oh ooh
oh oh oh 2x

Cuz if you liked it then you should have put a ring on it
If you liked it then you shoulda put a ring on it
Don’t be mad once you see that he want it
If you liked it then you shoulda put a ring on it woo oh ooh 2x

metrovelvet · 25-09-2009 06:52PM

This song relates to a whole different world that no Irish woman can understand.

Nevyn · 25-09-2009 07:31PM

I doubt that.

metrovelvet · 25-09-2009 07:46PM

Thaedydal wrote: »

I doubt that.

You're right and not right to doubt it. I will say no more or the pc brigade will come and lynch me.

dyl10 · 25-09-2009 08:01PM

It's a song, you probably shouldn't take it too seriously.

If the song was "you're not a real woman unless you get married", you could be duly aggrieved.

Handsome Bob · 25-09-2009 08:46PM

Beetlebum wrote: »

Hi Guys,

I'm sitting in work and this song just came on the radio for the millionth time (probably because Beyonce is a hero at the moment cause of the whole Kanya thing) but my God it absolutley does my head in.

I have nothing against Beyonce. I think she has an amazing voice, a stunningly beautiful face and body and she seems like a great girl but this song is just insulting.

I'm not a fan of her music anyway but it's the lyrics of this song that drive me nuts. She portrays women as these pushy, demanding bridezillas who can't wait to shove their partners up the aisle and if he doesn't propose within a certain timeframe 'he aint worth it girlfriend!'.

I, for one, have never wanted to get married and my two sisters are the same. One of them has recently found she's pregnant but she still has no desire for her boyfriend to 'put a ring on it'.

Anyone else agree that this song is insulting? I just think it gives out a horrible message (and sound)
Apologies to Beyonce fans!

I don't think the song is meant to be taken that seriously. It's just a dime a dozen, generic, and repetitive pop song which gets the ladies up dancing on a night out.

metrovelvet · 25-09-2009 08:52PM

To people who find it insulting, you are either married or you are not in the US.

OP - I doubt very much that your pregnant sister would like to be refered to as her boyfriend's "baby mama" and have no more status or respect than some floozie he knocked up.

Then she would certainly say "put a ring on it I aint nobody's baby mama."

Busi_Girl08 · 25-09-2009 08:56PM

Crap, now I'm going to have that song stuck in my head all day tomorrow. :mad:

*shakes fist at OP*

sallysaucer · 25-09-2009 08:58PM

I know exactly what she is talking about in this song. I was with a man for the last 5 years and it came to the stage where it was make or break. He could have asked me to marry him and we would be very happy right now but it went the other way and he decided to break up, So i get it totally when she says if you liked it then you should have put a ring on cause he aint gettin a second chance.

I think you have to be in that situation to really understand it!!

iguana · 25-09-2009 09:14PM

LZ5by5 wrote: »

which gets the ladies up dancing on a night out.

Unless they are in a relationship, then they have to sit quietly in their hands.:P

Handsome Bob · 25-09-2009 09:23PM

iguana wrote: »

Unless they are in a relationship, then they have to sit quietly in their hands.:P

Since when has anyone paid attention to lyrics for uptempo nightclub numbers? :eek:

Silverfish · 25-09-2009 09:26PM

LZ5by5 wrote: »

Since when has anyone paid attention to lyrics for uptempo nightclub numbers? :eek:

Not since Gangster's Paradise anyway

And even then it was only two sentences.

Handsome Bob · 25-09-2009 09:37PM

Silverfish wrote: »

Not since Gangster's Paradise anyway

And even then it was only two sentences.

I wouldn't say that would get the ladies up dancing, might get the shams throwing shapes during a night of knacker drinking though.

:pac:

Thomas828 · 25-09-2009 09:48PM

Oh, yuck! Beyonce is one of my pet hates. Go to the thread I started about her in the Ranting & Raving forum a few weeks ago. As for that song, it's just another earworm tune that sticks in your head like a leech.

Oh The Humanity · 25-09-2009 11:57PM

It is a truly dreadful song.

From the sentiment to the horrible skwaking 'singing' style its a nightmare for my ears and brain.

It hurts my mind

hightower1 · 26-09-2009 12:03AM

marriage???? wtf?????

I thought this was a song from a fella leaving his girlfriend cause she wouldnt sleep with him?????!!!!!

"if you liked it you shoulda put a ring on it":eek::D

stovelid · 26-09-2009 12:18AM

Beetlebum wrote: »

H

I'm not a fan of her music anyway but it's the lyrics of this song that drive me nuts. She portrays women as these pushy, demanding bridezillas who can't wait to shove their partners up the aisle and if he doesn't propose within a certain timeframe 'he aint worth it girlfriend!'.

Chances are she didn't write it..

watna · 26-09-2009 07:16AM

Hmm, I see why it would annoy you OP, but I agree with the others. I don't think it's meant to say that she's desperate to get married, but that she broke up with the guy as he couldn't commit (or some other reason) and gets jealous when she's seen with another guy. i.e. he doesn't want her but doesn't want anyone to have her either. I think the ring part is just a cool way of saying "well, you had your chance"

It is just quite a vapid (but catchy) pop song though so it's probably not a good idea to look in to it!

26-09-2009 09:39AM

I dont like the song, but I really hate the stupid dance for it in the video.

iguana · 26-09-2009 12:22PM

bluewolf wrote: »

I dont like the song, but I really hate the stupid dance for it in the video.

Here you go, from 2m32s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4U-Qz8yzxVQ

Wibbs · 26-09-2009 01:04PM

Very unusual and different production on that song. I have to say I like what they did with it. As for the lyrics? Meh, as others have said it's dancing around the handbag muzac. It does have some empowerment thing going on, like a fair bit of her and destinys child stuff. Its well aimed at a certain market.

Vinta81 · 26-09-2009 01:06PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9X--WLz8MBQ

ceannair06 · 26-09-2009 01:22PM

Worse than that is the pile of poo "If I Were A Boy".

Apaarently we girlies can't just wear what we want and go for beers.

Er, doing it right now!

Ha.

iguana · 26-09-2009 02:35PM

Wibbs wrote: »

It does have some empowerment thing going on, like a fair bit of her and destinys child stuff.

Actually most of her music is far from empowering. When you listen to the lyrics of so many of her songs they tend to promote shallowness and selfishness as supposed feminism. Women are independent because they "buy their own diamonds and rings." If she were a boy life would be so much better because (s)he'd know her girlfriend would never cheat, implying that most men cheat while women are blameless in relationships. Why the hell is Single Ladies even called that, it's about her ex being jealous of her new relationship - that's got nothing to do with being single?

Her (and Destiny's Child's) music has always made me cringe. They promote unadmirable personality traits as feminism. And they tend to be so bloody man hating. That's not empowering, it's just ugly.

Nevyn · 26-09-2009 03:36PM

There is a trend atm which says if you are not married then you are single ( which legally is the case )
and that the commitment of getting married superceeds any other and that anything else is not acceptable.
It's one of those back lashes that happens as we swing back and forth trying to figure out what works for and in society and it's a pretty important one I think in terms of the family unit.

Yes you can be in a wonderful, faithful committed relationship and that is the back bone to a good happy nurturing family with out being married but in respects the dice at least legally esp in this country are loaded against you.

Wibbs · 26-09-2009 03:57PM

Yea I should have put "empowerment" in parentheses

If you like it then you shudda put a ring on it

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