another coke seizure

genericguy · 14-09-2009 11:35AM #1

i've just seen this

http://www.rte.ie/news/2009/0914/drugs.html

3 million fooking euro.

calculated that if a gram costs e70, which i believe it does where I am anyway, that's 42,857 deals. add this to the other seizures recently, and that one in cork where the whole world's supply of marching powder was found.

why can't our government cop the fuck on, poison this shit and send it back out on the sly.

and get thousands of scumbags off our streets.

and free up thousands of jail spots, which cost e90k per cunt per year apparently (http://archives.tcm.ie/irishpost/2007/02/21/story5288.asp).

and reduce garda workload/overtime because deco and anto are brown bread.

and reduce waiting times and doctors' workloads in A+E because there aren't as many coke-fuelled assaults happening around the place.

how about instead of closing hospital wards, taxing the fcuk out of the common man, and bringing in fees that will stop half the country going to college, we poison a few scummy cunts that nobody really wants anyway. i'm sure that by killing a load of skags we can reduce such burdens.

i can't see an argument against it, we need to tighten our belts to get through these hard times, and any method of saving money must be considered.

Oliver1985 · 14-09-2009 11:37AM

I could not agree more with you dogg!! Make pubs and clubs nice places again with have the skanks around gone

BraziliaNZ · 14-09-2009 11:38AM

if you poisoned the cocaine in ireland we'd have no professionals left in the country probably

Coke fueled assaults - what the hell are you on about?

Pighead · 14-09-2009 11:39AM

genericguy wrote: »

i can't see an argument against it, we need to tighten our belts to get through these hard times, and any method of saving money must be considered.

Alternatively, any method of making money must also be considered. Why don't the government sell the coke to the populace?

Stark · 14-09-2009 11:39AM

When I first saw the thread title, I thought you were complaining that you had a coke stroke or something.

why can't our government cop the **** on, poison this **** and send it back out on the sly.

and get thousands of scumbags off our streets.

and free up thousands of jail spots, which cost e90k per **** per year apparently (http://archives.tcm.ie/irishpost/200.../story5288.asp).

and reduce garda workload/overtime because deco and anto are brown bread.

and reduce waiting times and doctors' workloads in A+E because there aren't as many coke-fuelled assaults happening around the place.

how about instead of closing hospital wards, taxing the fcuk out of the common man, and bringing in fees that will stop half the country going to college, we poison a few scummy ***** that nobody really wants anyway. i'm sure that by killing a load of skags we can reduce such burdens.

i can't see an argument against it, we need to tighten our belts to get through these hard times, and any method of saving money must be considered.

Coke is very much the white collared middle class drug of choice. Although it has become more affordable for the working class in recent times. You'd probably wipe out half the doctors and nurses working in A&E if you poisoned the stuff.

My name is URL · 14-09-2009 11:40AM

Coke is horrible. I don't see the fascination that people have with it.

Sure it makes you feel like Jesus but so does 3 litres of vodka

BraziliaNZ · 14-09-2009 11:41AM

coke in ireland is probably about 10% pure anyway

genericguy · 14-09-2009 11:41AM

Pighead wrote: »

Alternatively, any method of making money must also be considered. Why don't the government sell the coke to the populace?

absolutely, but poison the stuff before that, to get rid of the people society doesn't need.

Dancor · 14-09-2009 11:42AM

A fine excuse for Andrew Strong to buy the cheaper stuff again.

ScumLord · 14-09-2009 11:42AM

genericguy wrote: »

i've just seen this

http://www.rte.ie/news/2009/0914/drugs.html

3 million fooking euro.

calculated that if a gram costs e70, which i believe it does where I am anyway, that's 42,857 deals. add this to the other seizures recently, and that one in cork where the whole world's supply of marching powder was found.

why can't our government cop the fuck on, poison this shit and send it back out on the sly.

and get thousands of scumbags off our streets.

and free up thousands of jail spots, which cost e90k per cunt per year apparently (http://archives.tcm.ie/irishpost/2007/02/21/story5288.asp).

and reduce garda workload/overtime because deco and anto are brown bread.

and reduce waiting times and doctors' workloads in A+E because there aren't as many coke-fuelled assaults happening around the place.

how about instead of closing hospital wards, taxing the fcuk out of the common man, and bringing in fees that will stop half the country going to college, we poison a few scummy cunts that nobody really wants anyway. i'm sure that by killing a load of skags we can reduce such burdens.

i can't see an argument against it, we need to tighten our belts to get through these hard times, and any method of saving money must be considered.

You stay the hell away from my cocaine, all yous all stay the hell away from my cocaine!!

Pace2008 · 14-09-2009 11:42AM

Where are you getting the idea that 'coke-fuelled assaults' are commonplace in the country? And do you not think that thousands of poisonings would place a bit of a strain on our A&E wards, which you admit are stretched as it is? Maybe think for a minute before you post again instead of spewing bile from your fingertips.

I guess the irony of frivolously labelling people as 'scumbags' while advocating genocide as a pragmatic solution to a problem that doesn't exist is lost on you.

trad · 14-09-2009 11:44AM

genericguy wrote: »

why can't our government cop the fuck on, poison this shit and send it back out on the sly.

and get thousands of scumbags off our streets.

I have never heard of Governmenr sponsored mass murder as a method of getting rid of drug users.

The thousands of scumbags you wish death on will no doubt reduce the number of boardsies given the ambivolent attidude to drugs on this forum. Not all drugs are consumed by scumbags and no I don't use drugs.

ProjectColossus · 14-09-2009 11:47AM

That is one hell of a rant. You know what though, I agree. **** the lot of them. Half the professionals in the country dead someone says? Jobs for the rest of us.

SEPT 23 1989 · 14-09-2009 11:49AM

Thats enough corpses to fill the new Aviva stadium

Oliver1985 · 14-09-2009 11:50AM

ProjectColossus wrote: »

That is one hell of a rant. You know what though, I agree. **** the lot of them. Half the professionals in the country dead someone says? Jobs for the rest of us.

Amen brother I never tried it and never will! Its very dirty how to people do it in pubs off toilet roll holders is beyond me!!

renraw · 14-09-2009 11:51AM

I know a good few people that take coke regularly and they're not scumbags! They're people who work and dabble at the weekends....bit of a generalisation there....

Euro_Kraut · 14-09-2009 12:04PM

renraw wrote: »

I know a good few people that take coke regularly and they're not scumbags! They're people who work and dabble at the weekends....bit of a generalisation there....

Supporting the illegal trade in the drugs makes them 'a scumbag'. Giving money to Ireland's Drug lords make them scumbags. The industry they fund cause countless deaths across the globe.

Just because they wear nice clothes does not stop them from being scumbags.

ScumLord · 14-09-2009 12:05PM

ProjectColossus wrote: »

That is one hell of a rant. You know what though, I agree. **** the lot of them. Half the professionals in the country dead someone says? Jobs for the rest of us.

Oh, bags vagina doctor! No wait pilot! Yes, no, definitely pilot.

amacachi · 14-09-2009 12:07PM

Euro_Kraut wrote: »

Supporting the illegal trade in the drugs makes them 'a scumbag'. Giving money to Ireland's Drug lords make them scumbags. The industry they fund cause countless deaths across the globe.

Well then surely buying clothes made in SE Asia sweatshops makes you a scumbag. Getting on any form of transport with rare metals mined in countries with no safety regulations leading to thousands of early deaths and misery for countless more makes you a scumbag. There's always a bigger picture.

Pace2008 · 14-09-2009 12:14PM

My name is URL wrote: »

Coke is horrible. I don't see the fascination that people have with it.

Sure it makes you feel like Jesus but so does 3 litres of vodka

Thing is, half a gram of charlie leaves you in control of of your bladder and motor functions. That said, I'm not a fan. (Or more likely, I'm not a fan of persil, novocaine and ephedrine).

Euro_Kraut wrote: »

Supporting the illegal trade in the drugs makes them 'a scumbag'. Giving money to Ireland's Drug lords make them scumbags. The industry they fund cause countless deaths across the globe.

Just because they wear nice clothes does not stop them from being scumbags.

Please don't steer this towards another bi-weekly drugs legalisation debate.

14-09-2009 12:28PM

Euro_Kraut wrote: »

Supporting the illegal trade in the drugs makes them 'a scumbag'. Giving money to Ireland's Drug lords make them scumbags. The industry they fund cause countless deaths across the globe.

But so does the oil industry, the mining industry, agriculture, etc.

Euro_Kraut · 14-09-2009 12:29PM

amacachi wrote: »

Well then surely buying clothes made in SE Asia sweatshops makes you a scumbag. Getting on any form of transport with rare metals mined in countries with no safety regulations leading to thousands of early deaths and misery for countless more makes you a scumbag. There's always a bigger picture.

I see where you are coming from. But there is a big difference between coke use and the examples you outlined. Firstly the coke user is knowingly supporting the lives of Drug lords. I don't think many people go out of there way to deliberately buy goods produced by slave labour (although they may inadvertently do).

Secondly the coke user is engaging in serious criminal activity. That alone must cause us to question their moral judgement.

I don't like the term 'scumbag' and only used it to illustrate the point to the poster who initially used it.

To me the coke user is as complicit in the deaths of gang land drug feuds (and other drug related violence) as the funders of the IRA were in the deaths during the troubles. The real kicker for me though is that coke use funds the lifestyle of our top criminals. I do not think it is acceptable give money to people like John Gilligan.

c0rk3r · 14-09-2009 12:36PM

Euro_Kraut wrote: »

To me the coke user is as complict in the deaths of gang land drug feuds (and other drug related voilence). The real kicker for me is that coke use funds the lifestyle of our top criminals.

What would you say to someone who know this fully and accepts it yet is indifferent towards it

ScumLord · 14-09-2009 12:45PM

Euro_Kraut wrote: »

I see where you are coming from. But there is a big difference between coke use and the examples you outlined. Firstly the coke user is knowingly supporting the lives of Drug lords. I don't think many people go out of there way to deliberately buy goods produced by slave labour (although they may inadvertently do).

Not really, everybody just chooses to ignore the fact that there's no way that €3 tshirt could be made by high paid European workers. People do go out of their way to find the cheapest clothing so are actively seeking out clothes made in places where workers are treated like animals.

Secondly the coke user is engaging in serious criminal activity. That alone must cause us to question their moral judgement.

Serious? The only danger you'll encounter when buying drugs is the guards. Your just buying into this media outrage and propaganda. Those thugs that go around killing each other are using drugs money to fuel their violence but they simply hate each other, it's not really the drugs that made them hate each other it's a long running feud.

Euro_Kraut · 14-09-2009 12:51PM

c0rk3r wrote: »

What would you say to someone who know this fully and accepts it yet is indifferent towards it

I'm not sure I understand. Are you asking me what I would say to some who accepted my argument that drug use fuels the lifestyles of Ireland's criminals?

I would probably tell them that. If they chose to be indifferent about that than that’s their choice. I wouldn't choose to be friends with some one like that though. In the same way I would not be friends with some who was giving money to Taliban.

c0rk3r · 14-09-2009 12:59PM

Euro_Kraut wrote: »

Are you asking me what I would say to some who accepted my argument that drug use fuels the lifestyles of Ireland's criminals?

Yes that's what I'm saying. There is no point snorting self deception and smoke illusions like scumlord is trying to do. People know the damage they are doing, where the money is going and what manner that money is funding. Why deny it. It is what it is and they accept it. I doubt they care if you dont wish to be friends or associate with them, there are plenty of other people that will.

Euro_Kraut · 14-09-2009 01:01PM

ScumLord wrote: »

Not really, everybody just chooses to ignore the fact that there's no way that €3 tshirt could be made by high paid European workers. People do go out of their way to find the cheapest clothing so are actively seeking out clothes made in places where workers are treated like animals.

I disagree. There is nothing to suggest that expensive clothes could not also have been made in sweat shops. The retail price for a product in Ireland does not always reflect the condition in which the product was produced in Asia. The greatest determinant of price here is the mark-up and distrucbiton cost, not the manufacturing cost.

I would agree with you that most of us turn deliberately turns a blind eye to slave labour/sweat shops in SE Asia. Hopefully an awareness similar to the Fairtrade coffee movement can develop.

In any case, I think that issue absolves drugs users from their participation in the drugs industry.

Serious? The only danger you'll encounter when buying drugs is the guards. Your just buying into this media outrage and propaganda. Those thugs that go around killing each other are using drugs money to fuel their violence but they simply hate each other, it's not really the drugs that made them hate each other it's a long running feud.

What was the feud over? Most drug feuds are over money. Drug money. The prospect of Drugs money leads many in our society to a life of crime and violence. I think many drugs users choose to miss the link between their choices and supporting criminality.

Pace2008 · 14-09-2009 01:03PM

Euro_Kraut wrote: »

I see where you are coming from. But there is a big difference between coke use and the examples you outlined. Firstly the coke user is knowingly supporting the lives of Drug lords. I don't think many people go out of there way to deliberately buy goods produced by slave labour (although they may inadvertently do).

To be honest I'd have a bigger problem associating with people who are ignorant of how the world works and hold double standards in regards to issues like this.

Euro_Kraut · 14-09-2009 01:07PM

I doubt they care if you dont wish to be friends or associate with them, there are plenty of other people that will.

No, they won't lose much sleep over it

Prof.Badass · 14-09-2009 01:12PM

genericguy wrote: »

why can't our government cop the fuck on, poison this shit and send it back out on the sly.

and get thousands of scumbags off our streets.

Yes, because everyone who does coke deserves to die :rolleyes:.

And i suppose you've never done anything naughty ever?
Perhaps you should stop being so judgemental.

Besides......what sort of idiot politician would poisin themselves?

Wazdakka · 14-09-2009 01:12PM

I take Coke occasionally and I don't consider myself a scumbag, or useless to society.

I'm 25 years old and I work in a very productive job where I am liked and respected by my colleagues.
Every day I solve new problems and use the knowledge my university degree gave me.
I work quite hard to make sure my career keeps progressing and to pay for the mortgage on the house I bought two years ago.
I generally (with a few obvious exceptions) lead a law abiding life.

I don't overdo it at the weekends and start/get involved in fights.
I've never physically hurt somebody except in self defence.
I don't steal.

There are quite a few people out there who are very productive and useful members of society who use various drugs for various reasons.

Just because every now and again they might have a wild party with some friends and make a decision that they want to take some Coke, or Pills, or Weed, Or MDMA or Vitamin B12 or whatever does not make them a useless scumbag.

Some people seriously need to realise that here are thinner brushes.

another coke seizure

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