Voting?

cork*girl · 11-09-2009 07:52PM #1

I turned 18 in June, and registered straight away

! Anyone who asks me am I voting, asks straight away am I voting No? its kind of annoying..!! Anyone else voting? Does anyone else find the leaflets on Lisbon of no help?? :pac:

DancingQueen:) · 11-09-2009 07:55PM

I miss out by like three weeks

Fad · 11-09-2009 07:57PM

I am, and I will be voting yes.

burgess1 · 11-09-2009 08:01PM

I would vote but I won't turn 18 until 2 months after the referundum.

Few of the leaflets (if any) contain any actual information on the treaty.

RandomIrl · 11-09-2009 08:03PM

Is it too late to register now, im presuming it is?

burgess1 · 11-09-2009 08:06PM

RandomIrl wrote: »

Is it too late to register now, im presuming it is?

No, you have until Tuesday to submit the forms to your county/city council.

(They're on www.checktheregister.ie)

Ciaran500 · 11-09-2009 08:07PM

RandomIrl wrote: »

Is it too late to register now, im presuming it is?

Depends what way you're voting

We got a registration card in the post about a week ago trying to get anyone that hasn't registered to register. You might not be too late.

lou91 · 11-09-2009 09:59PM

I registered so I'll be able to vote Yes.
I HATE those signs saying "they died for your freedom, don't throw it away".
Its the most ridiculous argument ever but will probably be effective in getting (older) people to say no out of a BS sense of patriotism.

11-09-2009 10:38PM

I'll be voting alright, and, yet again, I'll be voting yes.

jumpguy · 11-09-2009 10:44PM

I missed out by about 3 years the last time! Closer to 2 now... Anywho, if I could vote I would vote yes. For those who don't understand the treaty from the booklet the government issued to all households in the country...then...

then...just...

I must leave this country.

Richard Cranium · 11-09-2009 11:00PM

jumpguy wrote: »

For those who don't understand the treaty from the booklet the government issued to all households in the country...then...

then...just...

I must leave this country.

+1:pac:

My first time voting was in the middle of the leaving cert, for the local and european elections. Out of the forty or so people in my year who were 18 at that stage, only about five actually registered to vote.

"If you don't know, vote no" is one of the most infuriating things I have ever heard.

9wetfckx43j5rg · 11-09-2009 11:28PM

Richard Cranium wrote: »

+1:pac:

My first time voting was in the middle of the leaving cert, for the local and european elections. Out of the forty or so people in my year who were 18 at that stage, only about five actually registered to vote.

"If you don't know, vote no" is one of the most infuriating things I have ever heard.

That was my first time too.

I am still undecided about Lisbon, altho I do think it's been blown out of proportion. I am tempted to vote no just because we are being asked to vote again. Isn't that basically being told "Eh that's not the answer we want, do it again."

K4t · 11-09-2009 11:29PM

I didn't register. *Idiot*

But, I don't think I'd have voted on Lisbon anyway. The treaty is just far too complex for the 'citizen' to fully comprehend and I don't think either side can be trusted.

It wasn't me! · 11-09-2009 11:55PM

Braydon Miniature Pianist wrote: »

That was my first time too.

I am still undecided about Lisbon, altho I do think it's been blown out of proportion. I am tempted to vote no just because we are being asked to vote again. Isn't that basically being told "Eh that's not the answer we want, do it again."

No, no it is not. The populace demanded reassurances and guarantees on various sections of the treaty, then the government went off and secured them. Now we're voting in light of that. I'll be first in the queue to vote the fcukers out of office, but they did the job right in this case.

K4t wrote: »

I didn't register. *Idiot*

But, I don't think I'd have voted on Lisbon anyway. The treaty is just far too complex for the 'citizen' to fully comprehend and I don't think either side can be trusted.

No, it's not. Brew a pot of coffee, sit down with the actual text of the treaty and the support literature and plough through it. It's complicated, but utterly intelligible.

Richard Cranium · 12-09-2009 12:13AM

Braydon Miniature Pianist wrote: »

I am still undecided about Lisbon, altho I do think it's been blown out of proportion. I am tempted to vote no just because we are being asked to vote again. Isn't that basically being told "Eh that's not the answer we want, do it again."

Definitely it has been blown out of proportion.

It's worth remembering that referenda are often voted on more than once. The only reason divorce is legal in Ireland is because the people voted more than once on the subject. And as It wasn't me! was saying, the circumstances have changed now that we have the assurances on the aspects of the treaty (or stuff that wasn't on the treaty at all!) that were controversial last time. It's not as if the no vote was completely ignored last time.

K4t wrote: »

I don't think either side can be trusted.

I'd be far more inclined to trust FF/FG/Labour/ICTU/IBEC etc than Sinn Féin and Declan Ganley. But then that's just my own opinion. Yours is of course equally valid.

phasers · 12-09-2009 12:21AM

I was going to register, but some guy came to my house to update the register a while ago and told me that I won't be able to vote in Lisbon 2 and I'm not "Officially" on the register until next year :mad:

Also my family never got the Lisbon booklet, I think my postman has it in for me because I get so many packages delivered.

Davidius · 12-09-2009 04:39AM

Might as well, nothing else to do.

doug.irl.92 · 12-09-2009 12:37PM

If I could vote I would vote YES. For the simple reason just to prove to the NO campaign that we are not stupid and that their scare mongering doesn't work.:(

"€1.84 minimum wage after Lisbon" Haha get real, sure if that is the case we'll just all jump on the dole!

"95% of Europeans would vote no" Where did they get this figure?LOL

Jay P · 12-09-2009 12:38PM

If I'm around and not at work, I'll be voting yes. I read the leaflet from the referendum comission, and we are being painfully misled by the no campaign stating the minimum wage will fall to €1.84, and the like. It's all a load of rubbish!

bythewoods · 12-09-2009 02:32PM

I couldn't actually vote last time, but I campaigned for the Yes vote.

Without a shadow of a doubt I'll be voting yes this time.

I know a few people voting no. Their reasons tend to include "I don't like Fianna Fail" (What a complete and utter lack of comprehension.) and "I don't understand it. So I'm voting no." (Ehhh?)

Fad · 12-09-2009 02:43PM

Ignorance is not an excuse to vote no.
Fianna Fáil might be knob end, but this isnt about political parties.
Libertas are very good reason to vote yes.

A Neurotic · 12-09-2009 02:48PM

I'm voting NO - how on earth are we going to pay for all our abortions when the minimum wage is 17c and all the breadwinners of Ireland are enslaved in Europe's SuperArmy?

Thomas_S_Hunterson · 12-09-2009 02:51PM

Fad wrote: »

Ignorance is not an excuse to vote no.

Yes it is. It would be reckless to ratify a treaty of which you were ignorant.

A Neurotic · 12-09-2009 02:53PM

If you don't know what you're voting for, then you shouldn't vote at all.

Fad · 12-09-2009 02:59PM

Sean_K wrote: »

Yes it is. It would be reckless to ratify a treaty of which you were ignorant.

I suppose.......it'd be reckless to vote at all though.......

As the cautious fellow above me pointed out.

Jay P · 12-09-2009 09:09PM

Sean_K wrote: »

Yes it is. It would be reckless to ratify a treaty of which you were ignorant.

Well thats your fault that you know little or nothing about it. You're on Boards. There's an EU forum where you can be delightfully informed. Not only that, but the Referendum Comission have sent a leaflet to everybody about it, explaining what the treaty means for Ireland.

A Neurotic wrote: »

If you don't know what you're voting for, then you shouldn't vote at all.

Sean_K, listen to this (wo)man.

Stev_o · 12-09-2009 09:20PM

Ill be voting no.

soccymonster · 12-09-2009 09:39PM

I can't vote. Damn it, being underage!
I'd vote yes though.
Seems like I know more about the Lisbon 2 than my parents.

SarcasticFairy · 13-09-2009 12:39AM

I can't vote yet, but if I could I'd vote yes.

Know a couple of people who are going to vote no, purely because they don't like being asked to vote again.

soccymonster · 13-09-2009 03:38AM

SarcasticFairy wrote: »

I can't vote yet, but if I could I'd vote yes.

Know a couple of people who are going to vote no, purely because they don't like being asked to vote again.

LOL! :pac:

blackbetty69 · 13-09-2009 03:42AM

what the hell is wring with these pple... il be voting no simply coz they had the cheek to ask us to vote again even tho it was clear last time what our opinions were.. thatl piss them off hopefully, whos with me?

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