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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,556 ✭✭✭✭AckwelFoley


    OP, you are wishing your daughter grows up and moves out..

    dont be so anxious for that.. in a few more years she will be gone and you will see little of her..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,054 ✭✭✭✭Professey Chin


    So you want her to be in her own place where she can go out,get stupidly twisted,come home at whatever hour she wants and get buggered silly all over the place by many many guys at once



    Nice


  • Posts: 53,068 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    So you want her to be in her own place where she can go out,come home at whatever hour she wants and get buggered silly all over the place by many many guys at once



    Nice

    exactly what I was thinking, just didn't want to say it out loud!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,054 ✭✭✭✭Professey Chin


    exactly what I was thinking, just didn't want to say it out loud!
    Then I like how your mind works


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,750 ✭✭✭liah


    Dear lord, the amount of mollycoddlers in this thread is upsetting.

    I don't know what it is about the culture here but the amount of people who are in their early to mid twenties (and even into their 30's) who are still living at home is absolutely mental.
    So you want her to be in her own place where she can go out,get stupidly twisted,come home at whatever hour she wants and get buggered silly all over the place by many many guys at once

    Uh.. and? She's going to be doing that in a few years regardless. I think the OP is being a mature and realistic parent to be completely honest. You can't keep your kid in a bubble forever mate, she's gotta experience the real world at one point or another. If she's ready to go to college then she's ready to be thrown in feet first. 18 is definitely not too young to be doing these sorts of things-- the age of 18 is the age of adulthood for a reason.

    Give me a break.

    People just don't seem to want to learn responsibility these days. I mean it's one thing if you honestly cannot find work but even then, you can go on the dole and find a cheap enough place to rent. Most of the "adults" I see still living with their parents not only use their parents for everything (car, extra cash, university funds, food, laundry, etc) but go out boozing every weekend with their dole money instead of doing anything smart with it like saving it or using it for their own place and food.

    Quite often they won't bother to leave until their parents truly force them out because they just plain can't be bothered supporting themselves; I mean, why would they, if they've got mammy and daddy looking out for them no matter what they do?

    Sad, really. People need responsibilities, relying on your parents to support everything you do isn't fair on yourself or them.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,054 ✭✭✭✭Professey Chin


    liah wrote: »
    Dear lord, the amount of mollycoddlers in this thread is upsetting.

    I don't know what it is about the culture here but the amount of people who are in their early to mid twenties (and even into their 30's) who are still living at home is absolutely mental.



    Uh.. and? She's going to be doing that in a few years regardless. I think the OP is being a mature and realistic parent to be completely honest. You can't keep your kid in a bubble forever mate, she's gotta experience the real world at one point or another. If she's ready to go to college then she's ready to be thrown in feet first. 18 is definitely not too young to be doing these sorts of things-- the age of 18 is the age of adulthood for a reason.

    Give me a break.

    People just don't seem to want to learn responsibility these days. I mean it's one thing if you honestly cannot find work but even then, you can go on the dole and find a cheap enough place to rent. Most of the "adults" I see still living with their parents not only use their parents for everything (car, extra cash, university funds, food, laundry, etc) but go out boozing every weekend with their dole money instead of doing anything smart with it like saving it or using it for their own place and food.

    Quite often they won't bother to leave until their parents truly force them out because they just plain can't be bothered supporting themselves; I mean, why would they, if they've got mammy and daddy looking out for them no matter what they do?

    Sad, really. People need responsibilities, relying on your parents to support everything you do isn't fair on yourself or them.
    Did you just ignore the "nice" and decide to lecture me :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,750 ✭✭✭liah


    Did you just ignore the "nice" and decide to lecture me :confused:

    I assumed the nice was sarcastic and it implied you thought the OP would be an irresponsible parent to allow her daughter to partake in these things. Was I wrong?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,159 ✭✭✭✭phasers


    Erm... alright then, since this is getting serious.

    Basically, I, and probably most other students, don't have ten grand to live away from home and my parents' house is nice and close.There aren't many jobs going right now (Especially if you've no experience). I do stuff around the house and understand the value of money.

    Why do students have to move out and get themselves into debt in order to "experience life"? A lot of people here are under estimating college students. We're not all retards who think money appears out of thin air.
    :/

    I understand a student paying for their own education but forcing them to move out for no good reason is ridiculous.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,995 ✭✭✭Sofiztikated


    A swift slap in the ovaries, and she'll be running out the door.

    /End AH answer

    Can't see whats wrong with her moving out, need to grow up and get on your feet sometime, and college is great way to do that.

    I moved out when I was 19, working 5 days a week, one day release college, and did me the world of good.

    (Still can't manage my money, but thats my own fault because I like nice things, and I hoard ****)

    I did nothing when I was at home, I was spoilt, but cooking, cleaning, budgeting, socialising and time management all came calling quickly.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    liah wrote: »
    Dear lord, the amount of mollycoddlers in this thread is upsetting.

    I don't know what it is about the culture here but the amount of people who are in their early to mid twenties (and even into their 30's) who are still living at home is absolutely mental.



    Uh.. and? She's going to be doing that in a few years regardless. I think the OP is being a mature and realistic parent to be completely honest. You can't keep your kid in a bubble forever mate, she's gotta experience the real world at one point or another. If she's ready to go to college then she's ready to be thrown in feet first. 18 is definitely not too young to be doing these sorts of things-- the age of 18 is the age of adulthood for a reason.

    Give me a break.

    People just don't seem to want to learn responsibility these days. I mean it's one thing if you honestly cannot find work but even then, you can go on the dole and find a cheap enough place to rent. Most of the "adults" I see still living with their parents not only use their parents for everything (car, extra cash, university funds, food, laundry, etc) but go out boozing every weekend with their dole money instead of doing anything smart with it like saving it or using it for their own place and food.

    Quite often they won't bother to leave until their parents truly force them out because they just plain can't be bothered supporting themselves; I mean, why would they, if they've got mammy and daddy looking out for them no matter what they do?

    Sad, really. People need responsibilities, relying on your parents to support everything you do isn't fair on yourself or them.
    So what you're saying is, anyone who still lives with their parents from 18 onwards is irresponsible?

    Bollox.

    How is your mammy paying your rent for you to live on your own being responsible? Where you live has no bearing on how responsible a person you are. Not everyone who lives with their parents rely on their parents for everything.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,054 ✭✭✭✭Professey Chin


    liah wrote: »
    I assumed the nice was sarcastic and it implied you thought the OP would be an irresponsible parent to allow her daughter to partake in these things. Was I wrong?
    Nope.I got it from here


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 210 ✭✭104494431


    My 16 year old has been getting himself up for school for years (since starting secondary school), makes his own lunches, cooks dinner a couple of times a week

    All while you sit there strung out on smack...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,750 ✭✭✭liah


    So what you're saying is, anyone who still lives with their parents from 18 onwards is irresponsible?

    Bollox.

    How is your mammy paying your rent for you to live on your own being responsible? Where you live has no bearing on how responsible a person you are. Not everyone who lives with their parents rely on their parents for everything.

    I never said that scenario WAS responsible. Not sure where you got it from tbh.

    I was giving out about the people who do take advantage of their parents and don't think twice about how their parents may feel about it. It's disrespect and selfishness tbh.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 502 ✭✭✭Anna Molly


    Is there something wrong with her that she doesnt want to move out?
    I coudn't wait!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,054 ✭✭✭✭Professey Chin


    Anna Molly wrote: »
    Is there something wrong with her that she doesnt want to move out?
    I coudn't wait!
    For my reasons stated above :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,712 ✭✭✭Hrududu


    This thread is gas, so many people getting offended that you want your daughter to learn to take care of herself. She's 18, she's going to college this is the perfect time and age for her to move out. Thousands of students that don't live near University and don't have the option to live at home do this every year. It's part of growing up. I work with a lot of people pushing into their late 20s that still live with Mammy. And a shocking number of these get their washing, cooking etc still done for them too.

    I'd be seriously embarrassed if I wasn't able to get myself up for school at the age of 17. So yeah, encourage her to move out. But make sure she knows that its always her home if she needs it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,260 ✭✭✭Elessar


    I will continue to live at home until I am 30 in glorious protest at the high-horses in this thread. :pac:

    "Ma, what time is dinner at?" :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,712 ✭✭✭Hrududu


    As time goes by it takes less and less to be accused of being on a high horse

    "I wash mahself with a rag on a stick"

    "Get off your high horse"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 133 ✭✭This_Years_Love


    Have you considered that it might be better for her to live at home due to the way the economy is at the moment? She might not be able to get a part-time job to help support herself. You could end up paying all her bills for her. That could be very expensive... definitely much more expensive then a cheap secondhand car would cost. Can you afford that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,178 ✭✭✭deisedude


    mariaalice wrote: »
    i was having a discussion with my teenage daughter about college...if she gets into the college she want..i live just about near enough for her to commute there by car.....some of her cousins do that...

    now im dead set again that and my reasons are

    at 18 she'll be an adult and i want her to go away to college

    i want her... to realise that if you don't budge properly and spend all you money on drink or what ever youll go hungry

    If an 18 year old doesnt realise that then they are prob too stupid to get into college
    if you don't do your laundry you'll run out of clean clothes

    Shes a student, clean clothes isnt that high on the agenda
    to learn that you have to get yourself up in the morning
    Many students will dispute that
    i want her to make new friend, have different experiences, cook for herself

    She can do that living at home too
    to learn that you parents wouldn't always be there to rescue you.

    Rescue her from what? A fire?
    her cousins that commute to college still hang around with the same friends they had in secondary school

    They can still hang around with their secondary school friends regardless where they live

    Basically the point of my post is that just because your daughter moves out of home for college doesnt mean she will become a responsible adult overnight. They can be equally as immature living away from home


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 939 ✭✭✭Aurora Borealis


    phasers wrote: »
    Why do you hate your daughter OP?

    Jesus that really made me laugh out loud!! Brilliant!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 407 ✭✭Sir Molle


    How does one afford the cost of living in this country while studying in college?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,054 ✭✭✭✭Professey Chin


    Sir Molle wrote: »
    How does one afford the cost of living in this country while studying in college?
    Prostitution


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 515 ✭✭✭sharky86


    Prostitution

    What is this pros-tit-ution you speak about? explain please...with pictures ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,778 ✭✭✭✭Kold


    Well as long as you accept that it could backfire and she could become one of those girls who is always mooching off a guy and every time they break up with one, they're with a new one two weeks later.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,054 ✭✭✭✭Professey Chin


    sharky86 wrote: »
    What is this pros-tit-ution you speak about? explain please...with pictures ;)
    Im male so I really doubt you wanna see the prostitution I had to do to get through college:pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 407 ✭✭Sir Molle


    Prostitution
    Eh yeah. Nice try, but nobody would ever pay to have sex with you.


  • Posts: 12,694 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    now i know I'll probably be slated for this...

    i know the vast majority of 18..19..20yearolds..love and respect there parents, understand how hard they work ect...do there own laundry, cook, and clean up after themselves help with the housework... never have a few mates over for a party when their parents are away...ye are all saints!.....

    but to the tiny weeny minority that engage in what id call magical thinking....for example the 20year old student that told me i pay for my own car... translation i pay for petrol with money from my part time job convientily forgetting about the tax, insurance, nct, that was paid for by their parents.

    The son of someone i work with who was looking for a part-time job said he wanted to work in a music shop or xtravision and that he wouldn't work in a place like supermacks or McDonald's..he wanted a "nice" job...i know im going to get replies saying id take any job.

    on deeper point...i would like to keep my daughter away from the consumerest/ wage slave culture we live in for as long as possible....a car costs thousands to run..im also against student get ting credit cards.

    your time as a student should be a bout discovering yourself, losing the bonds with home ( while always knowing home is there if you need it )...having fun and being free of a lot of responsibilities,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,060 ✭✭✭✭biko


    I moved into a student dorm at university, great times altogether.
    However, I could already cook and clean before that ;)

    Posting in AH is going to get you some flak, most posters here still live at home (my extensive research tells me).


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    mariaalice wrote: »
    now i know I'll probably be slated for this...

    i know the vast majority of 18..19..20yearolds..love and respect there parents, understand how hard they work ect...do there own laundry, cook, and clean up after themselves help with the housework... never have a few mates over for a party when their parents are away...ye are all saints!.....

    but to the tiny weeny minority that engage in what id call magical thinking....for example the 20year old student that told me i pay for my own car... translation i pay for petrol with money from my part time job convientily forgetting about the tax, insurance, nct, that was paid for by their parents.

    The son of someone i work with who was looking for a part-time job said he wanted to work in a music shop or xtravision and that he wouldn't work in a place like supermacks or McDonald's..he wanted a "nice" job...i know im going to get replies saying id take any job.

    on deeper point...i would like to keep my daughter away from the consumerest/ wage slave culture we live in for as long as possible....a car costs thousands to run..im also against student get ting credit cards.

    your time as a student should be a bout discovering yourself, losing the bonds with home ( while always knowing home is there if you need it )...having fun and being free of a lot of responsibilities,

    Why are you complaining? You're deciding between buying a car for your son/daughter or paying their rent for them? How is that any different to the above scenario?

    If you really want your offspring to experience the real world, then tell them to **** off, don't give them any money, make them work full time while paying their own way through college.

    Why don't you just be honest and tell him/her that you don't want them around anymore, cos that's how you're coming across.


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