Airsoft Doesn't Sleep (Off-topic MADNESS!!) Mod warning in post #1

NakedDex · 23-08-2009 07:36PM

I don't mean lazy in the sense of commitment to the game. I mean it with regard to the way the games are being developed for it. Console games are getting shorter and shorter now. There are a few exceptions, but only a few. I was a big console gamer back in the day but since PS2/Gamecube/Xbox, games have become steadily more about the quick thrill.
I'd happily buy more console games if they were worth spending the dough on. When I buy one, I want a decent storyline that engages me, not just 4-5 hours of explosions and flashy effects. I don't know if that counts as snobbery, but if it is, then I am. I just expect to be engaged. It's not a matter of the laziness of the user, but of the maker.

Stercus Accidit · 23-08-2009 08:12PM

Sorry I get you now.

I agree, there hasn't been a big gaming project in a while, one that was in development for years, and its hype was real, rather than just marketing.
I tend to clear a game in a day or two now, the only replay value was on the hardest setting with a mate, I cleared army of two on the hardest setting twice, because my mate and I would cooperate, that was a decent game imo, great fun on hard or extreme or whatever it was called, but on easy/medium it was very short.

Nintendo still win out here, the latest zelda was epic, a good long engaging game. These days I find FPS games boring in fact, length of game doesn't cut it.

Modern fps game;

-Intro level, you have a squad, you kill lots of ak guys, very easy but probably best level, but too easy.
-Then, oh noes, you are on your own, slightly different setting, much the same.
-Omg a tank! Fight a tank or chopper, lots of crappy enemies.
-Sniper level, omg stealth, click on their heads to win!
-Level on a boat, ship, dockyard. Edit: or train.
-dark sewer/tunnel level, you get the shotgun for this level!
-Level in a fancy skyscraper or city, a new type of armored enemy, aim for the head!
-Boss if you are lucky, lots of the new armored enemy guys to distract you.

Over, wow, another FPS under the belt! And you forget every thing in it.

Characters;

-You are silent, white, early 30's, new recuit to delta force/spec ops/secret government BS. You are an American.
-Theres a black guy, he goes Whooh Yeah! all the time, uses an m249 or something, smokes a cigar.
-You receive intel from a sarcastic hot woman, she flirts while you are shot at and directs you to the scud.
-Baddy is eastern european, he has a scar, he must be bad if he has a scar! He wants nukes, they may be on a train(nearly forgot trains) or some nonsense.
-General, old, white, american, directs young men to their deaths, calls you soldier, later in the game he's all like, oh, you may not survive, its a long shot, but its our only hope blah blah.

Weapons;

You have a pistol you will never use except in the sniper level, where its silent, you may also have an mp5sd on this level.
You start with an m4, you get an m249 a little bit on in the game, the desert eagle is the special pistol for later, it is more powerful than an assault rifle?... Shotgun, for the dark tunnely level, oh its a spas, how unique.
SMG of some sort... mp5! really crap, AK, super powerful, shoots all over the place, what an original line up so far!

So, there you go EA, just simmer over a programming studio for less than enough time and add a sprinkle of badly thought out elements or glitches and serve, for 59.99!

Oh yeah, title cover, m4, guy covered in mud, explosion and humvee, done.

Arcto · 23-08-2009 08:22PM

if PC gaming was really as good as its made out it would be in the majority.

Not a hope. Wheres everyone going to get the money for a gaming rig from?

PC gameing is alot more involved than Xbox or ps, well the online aspect anyway.

Then theres the modability of games to think about.

Anyway: A reporter called Evan is going to be hopping on the TacticalGamer.com arma2 server on Sunday the 30th as he is doing a writeup on the community.
As like every second sunday this is a FREE sign up event and if anyones interested in coming along just go to the arma 2 section of http://www.tacticalgamer.com and register then lob yer name down.
If you dont know what tacticalgamer is your seriously missing out!

EDIT:

Modern fps game;

-Intro level, you have a squad, you kill lots of ak guys, very easy but probably best level, but too easy.
-Then, oh noes, you are on your own, slightly different setting, much the same.
-Omg a tank! Fight a tank or chopper, lots of crappy enemies.
-Sniper level, omg stealth, click on their heads to win!
-Level on a boat, ship, dockyard. Edit: or train.
-dark sewer/tunnel level, you get the shotgun for this level!
-Level in a fancy skyscraper or city, a new type of armored enemy, aim for the head!
-Boss if you are lucky, lots of the new armored enemy guys to distract you.

Over, wow, another FPS under the belt! And you forget every thing in it.

Characters;

-You are silent, white, early 30's, new recuit to delta force/spec ops/secret government BS. You are an American.
-Theres a black guy, he goes Whooh Yeah! all the time, uses an m249 or something, smokes a cigar.
-You receive intel from a sarcastic hot woman, she flirts while you are shot at and directs you to the scud.
-Baddy is eastern european, he has a scar, he must be bad if he has a scar! He wants nukes, they may be on a train(nearly forgot trains) or some nonsense.
-General, old, white, american, directs young men to their deaths, calls you soldier, later in the game he's all like, oh, you may not survive, its a long shot, but its our only hope blah blah.

Weapons;

You have a pistol you will never use except in the sniper level, where its silent, you may also have an mp5sd on this level.
You start with an m4, you get an m249 a little bit on in the game, the desert eagle is the special pistol for later, it is more powerful than an assault rifle?... Shotgun, for the dark tunnely level, oh its a spas, how unique.
SMG of some sort... mp5! really crap, AK, super powerful, shoots all over the place, what an original line up so far!

So, there you go EA, just simmer over a programming studio for less than enough time and add a sprinkle of badly thought out elements or glitches and serve, for 59.99!

Oh yeah, title cover, m4, guy covered in mud, explosion and humvee, done.

You forgot the bit where you have to extract by calling in a black hawk over team speak as youve run out of ammo but the pilot gets locked and ditches destroying the chopper and you all have to run through the woods as your pursued by a UAZ and a squad of men finally your commander decides to send in a cobra manned by 2 other players and risk getting it shot down just so he can save yer asses.........

Thats a proper FPS ^^

Flecktarn · 23-08-2009 08:51PM

Stercus Accidit wrote: »

Sorry I get you now.
Nintendo still win out here, the latest zelda was epic, a good long engaging game. These days I find FPS games boring in fact, length of game doesn't cut it.

Have to agree the zelda for Wii was really good, it gripped you to the end.

Stercus Accidit wrote: »

Modern fps game;

-Intro level, you have a squad, you kill lots of ak guys, very easy but probably best level, but too easy.
-Then, oh noes, you are on your own, slightly different setting, much the same.
-Omg a tank! Fight a tank or chopper, lots of crappy enemies.
-Sniper level, omg stealth, click on their heads to win!
-Level on a boat, ship, dockyard. Edit: or train.
-dark sewer/tunnel level, you get the shotgun for this level!
-Level in a fancy skyscraper or city, a new type of armored enemy, aim for the head!
-Boss if you are lucky, lots of the new armored enemy guys to distract you.

Over, wow, another FPS under the belt! And you forget every thing in it.

Characters;

-You are silent, white, early 30's, new recuit to delta force/spec ops/secret government BS. You are an American.
-Theres a black guy, he goes Whooh Yeah! all the time, uses an m249 or something, smokes a cigar.
-You receive intel from a sarcastic hot woman, she flirts while you are shot at and directs you to the scud.
-Baddy is eastern european, he has a scar, he must be bad if he has a scar! He wants nukes, they may be on a train(nearly forgot trains) or some nonsense.
-General, old, white, american, directs young men to their deaths, calls you soldier, later in the game he's all like, oh, you may not survive, its a long shot, but its our only hope blah blah.

Weapons;

You have a pistol you will never use except in the sniper level, where its silent, you may also have an mp5sd on this level.
You start with an m4, you get an m249 a little bit on in the game, the desert eagle is the special pistol for later, it is more powerful than an assault rifle?... Shotgun, for the dark tunnely level, oh its a spas, how unique.
SMG of some sort... mp5! really crap, AK, super powerful, shoots all over the place, what an original line up so far!

So, there you go EA, just simmer over a programming studio for less than enough time and add a sprinkle of badly thought out elements or glitches and serve, for 59.99!

Oh yeah, title cover, m4, guy covered in mud, explosion and humvee, done.

Yeah thats modern fps but they sell don't they, take COD4 for example, how many units did that sell, 15 million? All they do is put better graphics and sound on already done plots but yet people still love them, myself included.

Also COD:MW 2, how many people are hyped about this game, people can't wait for it, but TBH its going to be a lot like COD4.

Stercus Accidit · 23-08-2009 09:04PM

TakeABiteOfSam is sitting on bf1943 right now, where are yez all?

Too many wanabe snipers and not enough riflemen in this game.

kevteljeur · 23-08-2009 11:52PM

We should try and get replica guns, and some camo gear, and we can do this in some woods or buildings somewhere. That could be good. I'm sure there's some places that'll let us do that.

We can even do up some scenarios, and have an angry bearded man manage them for us.

.

TheDoc · 24-08-2009 12:26AM

A the age old PC vs Console games

Theres no doubt each has their pros and cons.

Consoles are a more casual relaxed affair. You can just come home, pop in a disc and away you go. But there is no denying console games are now trying to achieve what pc games have for over a decade, online communities.

The days or single player games are quickly coming to an end. There is more power and attractiveness in playing with friends in a co-op campaign, or mashing german kids online. Even poor games, with co-op features can become fun and get longevity ( Army of two anyone?)

Consoles are becoming close to pc's now more then ever. Web browsing, online capabilities, HD content, big name franchises, a decent level of professional players and even their technical specs, boasting dual cores and high end graphics units.

But a PC will always give you more. You can experience the best of gaming, along with a large range of cuntionality. I have to have a chorkle at " pcs are too expensive".

I bought my gaming rig a couple of years ago, custom built for €700. A Xbox 360 at the time was coming in what, €450-500 on its release date?

PC's are becoming alot cheaper, as the world moves towards laptops and etbooks, and making things smaller for " on the move" PC rigs are bargain prices.

Top of the range graphics cards are only €150 euro these days, a year ago the top ends would cost you €300.

If you just had a pc case, hard drive and psu, you could built a very nice rig for a mere €300 , and whipe the floor with an xbox or playstation.

The range of games on the pc is nice too. There is no doubt gamestop has nearly single handedly killed the pc games market in this country and the uk, with most stores pc range of games being "piss poor" but thats now being replaced with downloading online media, games straight to your pc , I believe xbox live and PSN are to do something similar soon?

Its nearly AK vs Armalite arguement. PC gamers will defend pcs, consoles defending consoles. There is no outright winner.

My pc is pretty top of the pops at the moment, just missing an updated graphics card, which will set me back €100 or in the region, thats the price of two very dodgy console games.

I play World of Warcraft, which has new content every few months, and is literally uncompleteable. I've been playing it for around 5 years, to which I pay 120 eruo a year on subscriptions.

So I've spent €600 on World of warcraft, then maybe another 60 on the actual games.

Thats the equivalant of 8-9 xbox/ps3 games : /

Horses for courses

Spetzcong · 24-08-2009 04:10AM

TheDoc wrote: »

If you just had a pc case, hard drive and psu, you could built a very nice rig for a mere €300 , and whipe the floor with an xbox or playstation.

I largely agree with your statement, but in relation to building a decent rig and it being cheaper, yeah that's true, but if you're a bit of a luddite like me then it's beyond your capabilities, sure you could pay someone to do it (which'll cost ya), or if you're lucky have some sort of computer wizzard/sorcerer/magician friend do it for you but you're still gonna have to upgrade GFX cards etc every year to six months to keep up with the demands of the latest games.

To be honest I like both, my favourite game of all time S.T.A.L.K.E.R. is a PC game, and one that literally wouldn't have worked on Xbox or PS purely because it was a buggy pile of poo on release, was never properly fixed through patches and the thing that really made it great was community mods (Oblivion Lost I'm looking in your direction) that sort of stuff is just not going to happen on a console.

On the other hand, my PC is crap so I've not played a game on anything except my Xbox for quite some time (with the exception of playing through Vietcong on my PC again recently because I'd been watching too much Tour of Duty). I do really like going on to Xbox live with a party of my friends and tearing it up in multiplayer games and not having to talk to the regular peasants though (the irony, playing multiplayer games and not wanting to interact with others...)

ED E · 24-08-2009 04:46AM

NakedDex wrote: »

I don't mean lazy in the sense of commitment to the game. I mean it with regard to the way the games are being developed for it. Console games are getting shorter and shorter now. There are a few exceptions, but only a few. I was a big console gamer back in the day but since PS2/Gamecube/Xbox, games have become steadily more about the quick thrill.
I'd happily buy more console games if they were worth spending the dough on. When I buy one, I want a decent storyline that engages me, not just 4-5 hours of explosions and flashy effects. I don't know if that counts as snobbery, but if it is, then I am. I just expect to be engaged. It's not a matter of the laziness of the user, but of the maker.

Have to agree with you again. More recently I've found a lot of the latest titles to be complete crap. I wont pay 45-60 euro for games anymore, I just wait and get them for under 30 on ebay after a month. The only problem with this is, when I do get it, my mates will often be way ahead/done. Might pre-order Bioshock 2 though:)

Flecktarn wrote: »

Have to agree the zelda for Wii was really good, it gripped you to the end.

Yeah thats modern fps but they sell don't they, take COD4 for example, how many units did that sell, 15 million? All they do is put better graphics and sound on already done plots but yet people still love them, myself included.

Also COD:MW 2, how many people are hyped about this game, people can't wait for it, but TBH its going to be a lot like COD4.

Zelda was brilliant, I dont think I finished it as it is quite long and something shiny came along for the Xbox so I returned to my mate but I loved it. Keep meaning to ask for another lend of it. Other than it and Mario Kart DD for GC the wii was a complete waste of money, least it wasnt my money.

On COD4, I love it. It is a great game, prestige is stupid, but thats it. Hardcore all the way though, non HC is a tad stupid in my eyes. Then they made WAW but it was developed by Teyarch, and thus crap. But MW2 is being produced by Activision so will be along the lines of 4 yes, but I think they are good at what they do and will probably put some new features in that will make it very playable. That said, not paying over 40 quid for it.

NakedDex · 24-08-2009 07:50AM

Spetzcong wrote: »

...you're still gonna have to upgrade GFX cards etc every year to six months to keep up with the demands of the latest games.

I disagree. My rig has only become dated enough to be unable to play the very latest games that I want, like Arma 2, in the last 6-9 months and it's running on an AGP graphics card, a type of card that hasn't even been made in the last two years. Barring a hard drive change, I haven't made a single upgrade to my rig in around three years and I had no troubles with it until very lately. If you get a decent rig from the get-go, it will last. I used to be well up on the tech end of building these rigs but I've let new developments slip by me, but as Doc rightly told me the other day when we were talking about upgrades, picking up a PC magazine with component reviews or visiting the upgrading fora here on boards will give you all the information you need.

Lethal_Bullet wrote: »

Have to agree with you again. More recently I've found a lot of the latest titles to be complete crap. I wont pay 45-60 euro for games anymore, I just wait and get them for under 30 on ebay after a month. The only problem with this is, when I do get it, my mates will often be way ahead/done. Might pre-order Bioshock 2 though:)

I struggle to justify paying €60 for a game that's going to last me about five hours.
I'm not one for online gaming. I've disliked it since my frequented games and servers were beginning to become infested with 14 year old, loudmouth, Red Bull infused kids (mainly American) who ruined almost every experience since. I know I can set up a game and just play friends, but that requires you to organise people to be in a certain place at a certain time (which is difficult at the best of times unless it's a pub).
I'm one of those strange gamers who still play a game for the single player storyline. As such, I'm getting rather miffed that a good single player game is becoming a rarity, and the ones that are decent are only a few hours long. This is, apparently, to give the developers more time and space to concentrate on a multiplayer I'll never use. The last game that had a memorable single player, as far as I'm concerned, was FEAR. That was, what, four years ago? Five?

Hivemind187 · 24-08-2009 08:18AM

NakedDex wrote: »

loudmouth, Red Bull infused kids

Sorry but the only person I could think of was Dar. (sorry Dar).

NakedDex wrote: »

I'm one of those strange gamers who still play a game for the single player storyline. As such, I'm getting rather miffed that a good single player game is becoming a rarity, and the ones that are decent are only a few hours long. This is, apparently, to give the developers more time and space to concentrate on a multiplayer I'll never use. The last game that had a memorable single player, as far as I'm concerned, was FEAR. That was, what, four years ago? Five?

Agreed.

It is almost impossible to find a shooter that hasnt been purpose built for multiplayer. Even Rainbow Six has developed a thing for multiplayer deathmatch (not that its single player games in Vegas have been that bad just a little .... linear).

Its the age old problem of population:intellect/how much money the coprporation funding the development will make. Sadly it doesnt come out in favor of gripping, immersive and long games. And its been happening for years.

For example;

Might & Magic 6 (for those of you who have been gaming since the mid nineties) takes more than 20 hours to complete and thats a flat out gallop. There is usually more than fifty odd hous of effort involved in completing it.

Deus Ex (the first one not the invariably bad Invisible War). Probably the single best first person game I have ever played and I am apalled that the format hasnt shown up more often since. Free roaming, multiple avenues to complete each mission. True freedom in your decisions which altered the outcome of the game. Intelligent, complex and immersive plot. Took about 8-10 hours to clear (you could get it down to about 6 hours if you had done it a few times).

FEAR. Great game. Good plot. Immersive atmosphere. Linear, short and ended abruptly. You can clear it in about 4-6 hours.

ShadowRun. The game would be king. Then never was. Then was but was an abortion. Basically, they had developed a great MMO of a classic pen & paper rpg, nifty cyber-puk action with a few sexy witches thrown in for good measure. The development company pulled the plug when the moneymen panicked about the game being inaccessible due to its complexity (completely ignoring the success of MMO's like WoW and Everquest). The result was the MMO parts were removed and the game eventually became a kind of generic online fps with a few diabloe elements.

This is the reason I can't be bothered with the gaming community. Gamers killed gaming

Edit: Proof of my point is Fallout 3. Anyone who was a fan of the earlier games will tell you that a lot of the things that made them so endearing were removed in a sickenning capitulation to console gamers. The knowing self referential humor, the references to classic sci-fi like the Hitch Hikers Guide or comedy like Monty Python. Piss taking of scientologists. Becoming a porn star, having a shotgun wedding, getting a rash ... all of these things were little touches that made those games so much more engaging that the third installment. Dont get me wrong, the third game was well done but it was very limited in its ability to engage me with scant reference to earlier games (other than Harold really).

zero19 · 24-08-2009 08:56AM

Well i got myself an xbox and CoD4 completed story mode on that and forgot how good it was, then went on to pwn teh n00bs online, is it just me or are genuinely good online players hard to find? It's bad if i can whup ass after a year without playing games...

NakedDex · 24-08-2009 09:59AM

Hivemind187 wrote: »

FEAR. Great game. Good plot. Immersive atmosphere. Linear, short and ended abruptly. You can clear it in about 4-6 hours.

I liked FEAR. It was short, not as short as most, but short. The difference is that it was thoroughly immersive and enjoyable. There were a number of times I was playing it with people watching, such was the quality of the plot and drama. When the trademark shocks came, everyone jumped (some even left). When the plot twists unfolded, everyone p
ooh'd and aah'd.
Basically what I'm saying is the story was sufficently epic (in the literal sense of the word, not the "ep1k" sense) to make up for it's shortness. You were kept on your toes and always wondering why things were so quiet and when that little b**** would appear out of nowhere and prompt a diaper change. I miss that in games.

Hivemind187 · 24-08-2009 10:05AM

NakedDex wrote: »

I liked FEAR. It was short, not as short as most, but short. The difference is that it was thoroughly immersive and enjoyable. There were a number of times I was playing it with people watching, such was the quality of the plot and drama. When the trademark shocks came, everyone jumped (some even left). When the plot twists unfolded, everyone p
ooh'd and aah'd.
Basically what I'm saying is the story was sufficently epic (in the literal sense of the word, not the "ep1k" sense) to make up for it's shortness. You were kept on your toes and always wondering why things were so quiet and when that little b**** would appear out of nowhere and prompt a diaper change. I miss that in games.

My biggest gripe with the game was the on-rails nature of it. It really limits the replay value of any given title.

This may be the reason I still play civ, sim city and heroes.

zero19 · 24-08-2009 01:17PM

I still play sim city myself actually, quite fun

ED E · 24-08-2009 01:23PM

zero19 wrote: »

I still play sim city myself actually, quite fun

Just added you via Live.com, dont know if it that instantly translates to the console itself, but its on its way:)

Rogue-Trooper · 24-08-2009 03:22PM

Am I the only one that hasn't understood a single thing that's been said over the last 5 pages?!!

Ok so........I'll get me coat......:o

NakedDex · 24-08-2009 03:27PM

Prepare to be escorted out of the forum by a rather large doorman. Don't let his leather armour and odd helmet fool you, he has epic DPS and will totally pwn you if you mess with him.

Rogue-Trooper · 24-08-2009 03:31PM

NakedDex wrote: »

Prepare to be escorted out of the forum by a rather large doorman. Don't let his leather armour and odd helmet fool you, he has epic DPS and will totally pwn you if you mess with him.

It's ok, I'm on my way over to the games forum to see if anyone over there wants to talk about airsoft!

:D:D

TheDoc · 24-08-2009 04:40PM

I agree with Hives take on it, and its proven fact alright as admitted by numerous gaming companies.

Games have to be dumbed down from pc to console. Basically because, PC Gamers have a higher likelyhood of sitting there for hours upon hours playing a game or doing some work.

Console gamers have a very high rate of playing for 60 minutes before turning of their machine.

Oblivion is a game that made its name on the pc, and when it was brought out on consoles, it received largely rave reviews, but because it so so indepth and particular in its ways, it was very soon dropped by most people who picked it up.

I can look at a pc screen for 13 hours straight and play a host of pc games

I can barely play more then 90 minutes of an xbox before it gets boring, repetitive and annoying.

PC Rigs are an investment. You dont go buy one that will "just do" . you buy one thats future proof.

For example should you wish to now go out and buy a rig.

Youll want something that minimum supports dual core, but can have room for a quad core.

It will want 64bit compatability.

You will want 4gb ram min

You'll want a pci-express GFX card

You'll want two Hard drives of high capacity.

Youll require a DVD rewriter drive.

Going from that you have a large range of components and builds to put together. From varying prices. I always buy with the future in mind.

My pc gaming rig was acquired just shortly after the initial launch of the Xbox.

Since then it has a new motherboard, cpu,ram and gfx card that cost €300 in total. Bits and pieces have been added, new hard drives costing 60 euro each and the likes.

My rig originally cost me €700 built by myself. At the time dell quoted me €2200 and Alienware ( before they got bought out) wanted €2900.

In total my rig has cost me I'd say €1500 in total with upgrades, custom built.

How much did Xbox cost when it came out, and the xbox 360, and playstation 3, and the ps2.

From rough numbers it comes to roughly the same price if not more, when you include games, extra controllers, internet access and ****e.

Yet I have more functionality from my pc.

And Xbox doesnt have wow, so consoles are ****, end off

Although FiFa and pro evo on a pc is ****ing sacrilage.

Arcto · 24-08-2009 04:48PM

I can look at a pc screen for 13 hours straight and play a host of pc games

I was up till 07:30 last night playing arma2, unemployment, its fantastic!

CrazyRabbit · 24-08-2009 05:05PM

Masada wrote: »

What platform is this game on? looks like somthing off the PC, It looks interesting though, if i was xbox i would play it.,

CrazyRabbit wrote: »

Please don't insult PC's. My 5 year old backup pc would have better graphics than that xbox thing.

/threadfail.

I just said that PC's have better graphics and it was insulting that xbox graphics would be confused with the clearly superior graphics that are found on even older PC's. I never meant to start up the 10 year old PC's Vs Console war!! I'm sorry...I swear it!!

IMHO, consoles are great for football games, puzzle/arcade type games and some of the less advanced flight games.

PC's will always win for FPS (superior controls), MMO's, and RTS games.

I started out on a ZX Spectrum, C64, Amiga 128, Amiga 1200 before moving to a shiny new Pentium 1 PC.
Along the way, I've toyed around with NES, SNES, SEGA Master System, SEGA Mega Drive,SEGA Saturn, Dreamcast, PS1, PS2, PS3, Wii & Xbox.

Of all of these, I've had the most 'fun' with the C64, Wii & PC. The others all paled in comparison.

As for cost, one my current PC's cost only €500 and can play every PC game on the market (albeit the newer ones on reduced settings).

And a 6yo child could build one. It's just like lego...seriously. PC's only become expensive when you start buying pre-built ones from overpriced vendors (Alienw*** Oh, I can't mention them as Boards could be sued). And you can always easily & cheaply upgrade pc's every few years (unless it's a Dell)

What consoles have that PC's don't, is ease-of-use. No installations, no driver updates, no useless MS operating system etc. Consoles are also generally much smaller and take up less room.

To each their own, but PC's are the way to go if you don't mind spending a little extra, and don't also mind actually RTFM.

Stercus Accidit · 24-08-2009 05:26PM

N64 is better than any of your machines.

ED E · 24-08-2009 06:11PM

TheDoc wrote: »

For example should you wish to now go out and buy a rig.

Youll want something that minimum supports dual core, but can have room for a quad core. You want Core i7 or Phenon II

It will want 64bit compatability. (To allow 8GB of ram:))

You will want 4gb ram min You will want 4gb of High Speed DDR3 ram min

You'll want a pci-express GFX card You want two High end GFX cards running in SLI/Crossfire

You'll want two Hard drives of high capacity. You'll want two 10,000RPM Hard drives of high capacity.

Youll require a DVD rewriter drive.

Fixed:p

Hivemind187 · 24-08-2009 06:20PM

Lethal_Bullet wrote: »

For example should you wish to now go out and buy a rig.

Youll want something that minimum supports dual core, but can have room for a quad core. You want Core i7 or Phenon II

It will want 64bit compatability. (To allow 8GB of ram) (to allow 12GB of RAM)

You will want 4gb ram min You will want 4gb of High Speed DDR3 ram min You will want 6GB of DDR3 Triple Channel Ram.

You'll want a pci-express GFX cardYou want two High end GFX cards running in SLI/Crossfire You want two high end GFX cards with a mninimum of two processors and 1GB of GDDR5.

You'll want two Hard drives of high capacity. You'll want two 10,000RPM Hard drives of high capacity. You'll want a 32GB SSD Primary supported by 2 10,000RPM 130GB Raptors.

Youll require a DVD rewriter drive.

Fixed properly.

NakedDex · 24-08-2009 06:37PM

Hivemind187 wrote: »

Originally Posted by Lethal_Bullet:
For example should you wish to now go out and buy a rig.

Youll want a quad core.

It will want 64bit compatability to allow 4Gb of RAM.

You will want a matched pair of 2Gb DDR3.

You'll want a decent PCI-E graphics card, preferably Nvidia, with the ability to use SLI if you need to in the future.

You'll want two 500Gb hard drives, with a decent cache.

Youll require a DVD rewriter drive.

You'll want a case too keep it all quiet in

Fixed: Sanity and budget reality added.

kevteljeur · 24-08-2009 07:02PM

Angry bearded men in hi-vis ftw, tbh.

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ED E · 24-08-2009 08:49PM

I love OTM

zero19 · 25-08-2009 09:00AM

Stercus Accidit wrote: »

N64 is better than any of your machines.

I'm still rockin' goldeneye to this day! I need to get a snes though, along with mario kart, donkey kong country and super mario all stars... Hmm *runs over to the ebay emporium*

Masada · 25-08-2009 02:30PM

mario on the super nintendo was were its at.

the mileage I got out of mario world is unbelieveable. then mario all stars was a good pick up and play too.

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