Lockerbie bomber released!...Dead 3 years later.

arybvtcw0eolkf · 20-08-2009 01:45PM #1

Just seen it on SkyNews now..

Now let me get this straight, someone murders over 250 men, women and children.

Then because the murderer is dying of cancer (and fvck 'em tbh), a government feels it must take pity on him and send him home to die in comfort, and probably to a hero's welcome too!.

Fvck that sh*t.

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Biggins · 20-08-2009 01:47PM

...and all for more oil some say!

See: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1207772/Blair-blood-money-Lockerbie-deal-Talks-Gaddafi-hours-BP-agreement.html

COINCIDENCE???

Boston · 20-08-2009 01:47PM

Jacoby Abundant Magician wrote: »

Just seen it on SkyNews now..

Now let me get this straight, someone murders over 250 men, women and children.

Then because the murderer is dying of cancer (and fvck 'em tbh), a government feels it must take pity on him and send him home to die in comfort, and probably to a hero's welcome too!.

Fvck that sh*t.

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BP have a 1.1 Billion (Sterling ?) contract with Lybia, which may have been put at risk. Make no mistake, he was realised for political and financial reasons.

Genghiz Cohen · 20-08-2009 01:48PM

Jacoby Abundant Magician wrote: »

Just seen it on SkyNews now..

Now let me get this straight, someone murders over 250 men, women and children.

Then because the murderer is dying of cancer (and fvck 'em tbh), a government feels it must take pity on him and send him home to die in comfort, and probably to a hero's welcome too!.

Fvck that sh*t.

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Buy a gun OP, take the law into your own hands.
Be sure to kill yourself after you do the deed.
And... good luck.

dr.bollocko · 20-08-2009 01:50PM

I wonder how quickly Gaddafi's jet will be landing to pick him up.

My name is URL · 20-08-2009 01:50PM

He's widely regarded as innocent, even by the families people who were killed

bit of a scape goat

Nodin · 20-08-2009 01:51PM

Jacoby Abundant Magician wrote: »

Just seen it on SkyNews now..

Now let me get this straight, someone murders over 250 men, women and children.

Then because the murderer is dying of cancer (and fvck 'em tbh), a government feels it must take pity on him and send him home to die in comfort, and probably to a hero's welcome too!.

Fvck that sh*t.

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He may not have been guilty at all. However, hes done more time than anyone involved in the shooting down of Iran Air 655 and the 290 deaths therein.

Biggins · 20-08-2009 01:53PM

My name is URL wrote: »

He's widely regarded as innocent
bit of a scape goat

Not sure about innocence but he for sure is being used for political gain - possibly monetary gain too.

One thing is for sure - he didn't do the whole thing on his own!

Boston · 20-08-2009 01:55PM

My name is URL wrote: »

He's widely regarded as innocent, even by the families people who were killed

bit of a scape goat

He isn't widely regarded as innocent. A group of British families don't believe he had the level of involvement that was put forward, nor that it was just him.

Kintarō Hattori · 20-08-2009 01:56PM

Genghiz Cohen wrote: »

Buy a gun OP, take the law into your own hands.
Be sure to kill yourself after you do the deed.
And... good luck.

He doesn't need to buy one!

arybvtcw0eolkf · 20-08-2009 02:00PM

Nodin wrote: »

He may not have been guilty at all. However, hes done more time than anyone involved in the shooting down of Iran Air 655 and the 290 deaths therein.

It may well be true that he's entirely innocent, as lay people we can only hazard a guess at this.

However he's been convicted so the Scotish justice department must have satisfied themselves that he was guilty, it just beats me that a murderer is afforded this kind of compassion.

The shooting down of Iran Air 655 is an entirely different matter, either way I don't believe that the captain & crew of the USS Vincennes knew they were deliberately shooting down an innocent civilian A/C, although it may have led directly to the Lockerbie A/C/ bombing.

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An Fear Aniar · 20-08-2009 02:03PM

It's a pity that those on the jet never made it home to their families.

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Long Onion · 20-08-2009 02:05PM

Was it true that Gadaffi Duck planted a bomb in Disneyland?

*gets coat*

I vaguely remember hearing about the disaster - was a kid living in London at the time, the thing that stands out most in my mind is hearing that the Beeb were cancelling an episode of Boon because there was a song on it called "Going to Heaven on a 747"

Michael Elsphick - a man amongst men

Nodin · 20-08-2009 02:05PM

Jacoby Abundant Magician wrote: »

It may well be true that he's entirely innocent, as lay people we can only hazard a guess at this.

However he's been convicted so the Scotish justice department must have satisfied themselves that he was guilty, it just beats me that a murderer is afforded this kind of compassion.
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In Europe, it would not be unheard of.

Biggins · 20-08-2009 02:06PM

"Mr al-Megrahi did not show his victims any comfort or compassion. They were not allowed to return to the bosom of their families to see out their lives, let alone their dying days. No compassion was shown by him to them.

"But that alone is not a reason for us to deny compassion to him

Cobblers! Pure bullschite!

Source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/south_of_scotland/8197370.stm

meathstevie · 20-08-2009 02:08PM

Jacoby Abundant Magician wrote: »

It may well be true that he's entirely innocent, as lay people we can only hazard a guess at this.

However he's been convicted so the Scotish justice department must have satisfied themselves that he was guilty, it just beats me that a murderer is afforded this kind of compassion.

The shooting down of Iran Air 655 is an entirely different matter, either way I don't believe that the captain & crew of the USS Vincennes knew they were deliberately shooting down an innocent civilian A/C, although it may have led directly to the Lockerbie A/C/ bombing.

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Still raises the question if the crew members responsible for the missile launch and target identification shouldn't have answered a manslaughter charge.

Nodin · 20-08-2009 02:08PM

Biggins wrote: »

Cobblers!

So the world has to hold itself to the same standard as those it imprisons? Hmmmm. I can see that leading to problems.

King of Kings · 20-08-2009 02:09PM

Jacoby Abundant Magician wrote: »

Just seen it on SkyNews now..

Now let me get this straight, someone murders over 250 men, women and children.

Then because the murderer is dying of cancer (and fvck 'em tbh), a government feels it must take pity on him and send him home to die in comfort, and probably to a hero's welcome too!.

Fvck that sh*t.

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what are you like?

he was defo ordered to do this - imagine the consequences if he said "eh no..." Libya was at war with the UK and Britian at the time.
He should have been freed years ago as a POW.

Also is It ok for Uk and Britian to slaughter arab/muslim civilans but it's not ok when an arab does it in reverse. We don't see many (the odd token jesture when a story gets out) US soliders in jail for crimes against civilians.
What about those airmen in Afghanistan who bombed the wedding and killed many civilans last year?

Surely you are old enough to remember Regan and Thacher bombing Tripoli and killing many innocents. He struck back from his nation and if they treat him as a hero - that's fine with me.

geuro · 20-08-2009 02:09PM

I normally feel that the west needs to show more understanding and compromise when dealing with countries like Libya where there are significant terrorist threats. But really, I can't believe this. To those who say he is not guilty, let there be another appeal. But the man is convicted of 270 murders, and is being let off the hook after only 8 because he has cancer! It's ridiculous.

Sonic_exyouth · 20-08-2009 02:12PM

If any of you know anyone who was in the same stages of Cancer knows the idea of "Comform" is a nonsense.

The man is in constant pain.

He'll now be in a Libyan hospital rather than a Scottish one - So what?
He's dying, hes a shell. He paid the price so that Gaddaffi could trade with the west. Now he's dying.

blair&gaddafi.jpg

None of the above would have been thinkable had Gaddaffi not sent his sacrificial lambs to that Scottish trial.

Nodin · 20-08-2009 02:13PM

geuro wrote: »

I normally feel that the west needs to show more understanding and compromise when dealing with countries like Libya where there are significant terrorist threats. But really, I can't believe this. To those who say he is not guilty, let there be another appeal. But the man is convicted of 270 murders, and is being let off the hook after only 8 because he has cancer! It's ridiculous.

As its terminal cancer, its not like hes going to be bouncing round some Libyan beach.

geuro · 20-08-2009 02:14PM

King of Kings wrote: »

Also is It ok for Uk and Britian to slaughter arab/muslim civilans but it's not ok when an arab does it in reverse. We don't see many (the odd token jesture when a story gets out) US soliders in jail for crimes against civilians.
What about those airmen in Afghanistan who bombed the wedding and killed many civilans last year?

Surely you are old enough to remember Regan and Thacher bombing Tripoli and killing many innocents. He struck back from his nation and if they treat him as a hero - that's fine with me.

I can't believe you are serious. It sounds like you are suggesting that because it's ok for the west to slaughter arab or muslim civilians, it is ok for an arab or muslim terrorist to slaughter western civilians. Bit of a weird view buddy. It's never ok to slaughter civilians.

Biggins · 20-08-2009 02:16PM

King of Kings wrote: »

...Surely you are old enough to remember Regan and Thacher bombing Tripoli and killing many innocents. He struck back from his nation and if they treat him as a hero - that's fine with me.

Surely two wrong don't make a right?

Justice can only be done one case at a time. He killed over 200 people and he gets to go home!
I wouldn't call that justice - others might - apparently a lot don't and I can completely understand why.

Rhyme · 20-08-2009 02:16PM

That's not cancer! It's a BOMB!

Everybody get down...

/me retrieves coat, slinks from forum.

Fratton Fred · 20-08-2009 02:21PM

meathstevie wrote: »

Still raises the question if the crew members responsible for the missile launch and target identification shouldn't have answered a manslaughter charge.

The crew followed procedures by the book. The airbus was not in a commercial airlane, was not following its scheduled route and did not respond to any attempts to contact it.

I know a coupe of guys that were on a RN type 42 destroyer in the gulf at the time and they heard the whole thing. They could hear every attempt to identify the aircraft and tried to work out what it was themselves.

that said, they could not believe the Americans open fire.

King of Kings wrote: »

what are you like?

he was defo ordered to do this - imagine the consequences if he said "eh no..." Libya was at war with the UK and Britian at the time.
He should have been freed years ago as a POW.

Also is It ok for Uk and Britian to slaughter arab/muslim civilans but it's not ok when an arab does it in reverse. We don't see many (the odd token jesture when a story gets out) US soliders in jail for crimes against civilians.
What about those airmen in Afghanistan who bombed the wedding and killed many civilans last year?

Surely you are old enough to remember Regan and Thacher bombing Tripoli and killing many innocents. He struck back from his nation and if they treat him as a hero - that's fine with me.

err, its not OK for anyone to slaughter anyone as far as I am aware.

the guy planted a bomb on a ****ing jumbo, are you implying that is ok?

Trojan911 · 20-08-2009 02:23PM

Jacoby Abundant Magician wrote: »

Fvck that sh*t.

Totally agree there fella. Should've died in prison where he belonged.

(Same goes for Ronnie Biggs)

biko · 20-08-2009 02:25PM

wrote:

Not originally posted by guero
I can't believe you are serious. It sounds like you are suggesting that because it's ok for the west to slaughter arab or muslim civilians, it is ok for an arab or muslim terrorist to slaughter western civilians. Bit of a weird view buddy. It's never ok to slaughter Western civilians.

I agree

Nodin · 20-08-2009 02:29PM

Fratton Fred wrote: »

The crew followed procedures by the book. The airbus was not in a commercial airlane, was not following its scheduled route and did not respond to any attempts to contact it.

"The data from USS Vincennes tapes, information from USS Sides and reliable intelligence information, corroborate the fact that [Iran Air Flight 655] was on a normal commercial air flight plan profile, in the assigned airway, squawking Mode III 6760, on a continuous ascent in altitude from take-off at Bandar Abbas to shoot-down

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655

Fratton Fred · 20-08-2009 02:37PM

Nodin wrote: »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655

fair enough, I'll concede to wikipedia's superior knowledge.

Ghost Train · 20-08-2009 02:39PM

the BP deal was back in 2007 though right? If he's going to die then send him home, not like he has much to look forward to

Nodin · 20-08-2009 03:00PM

Fratton Fred wrote: »

fair enough, I'll concede to wikipedia's superior knowledge.

No, you'll concede to the Fogarty review it references, and easily accessible reportage on same incident which references that review, and various other items that say much the same thing.

Lockerbie bomber released!...Dead 3 years later.

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