Laws passed never enforced!!

rubadub · 17-05-2009 04:20PM

Jaywalking is not often enforced. My mates brother was done for it on the N11. I have seen a garda actively assisting children to jaywalk in the exact same place where he was done for it, bitch should have been done for aiding and abetting! There was a pedestrian flyover right over where she was doing it.

[-0-] · 17-05-2009 04:48PM

People driving without seat belts.
Bus drivers driving while on their phones.
Learner drivers driving without a full license driver, with no nct. So much for that Law on the first of May.

Capt'n Midnight · 17-05-2009 11:22PM

No NCT, been law for ages only change is the penalty went up.

Unaccompanied Learner Drivers, been the law since before before a lot of you were born , only seems to be enforced if there are other charges pressed as well

Learners on Motorways

Bankrupting Bervely

Taxi drivers using Hazard warning lights and not using hand signals when their indicators aren't functional.

Laws on Fraud esp. by bankers
All the wrong doing exposed by the tribunals

msg11 · 18-05-2009 03:23AM

Jay walking.

Drunks Jay walking.

Executive Steve · 18-05-2009 03:56AM

msg11 wrote: »

Jay walking.

Jay has the right to march down the Queen's highway if he so wishes. Do you seek to deny him that right?

Capt'n Midnight · 18-05-2009 08:22AM

The new blasphemy law, one hopes.

arybvtcw0eolkf · 02-08-2009 08:04PM

chin_grin wrote: »

Let me see, considering the kind of "men" who would walk pit-bulls would you still have a face after you told one that they were breaking the law? I think that'd be a case of "avoid eye contact and keep walking".

But, mmyep I can see how it's annoying.

Hiya cup cakes

Law's not enforced - well I've never had a TV licence man call to my door despite the TV add's with say they check over 1800 households a month.

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wudangclan · 02-08-2009 08:06PM

Edith Numerous Test wrote: »

Law's not enforced - well I've never had a TV licence man call to my door despite the TV add's with say they check over 1800 households a month.

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arybvtcw0eolkf · 02-08-2009 08:13PM

wudangclan wrote: »

your IP has been logged.

I no speakie da Engrish, sworry.

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Maddison · 02-08-2009 08:18PM

Ive been bitten a few times by my Jack Russell & my snake. My two Rotties are as gentle as lambs & have never even growled in my direction.

towel401 · 02-08-2009 08:18PM

most laws make no sense to enforce anyway, they are just passed for political correctness reasons and to shut up some bunch of whingers who can't stand up for themselves. other laws have solved a problematic situation before but make no sense to strictly enforce anymore

arybvtcw0eolkf · 02-08-2009 08:51PM

Maddison wrote: »

Ive been bitten a few times by my Jack Russell & my snake. My two Rotties are as gentle as lambs & have never even growled in my direction.

I've been bit by a JRT too!.. So has my older dog.

Just reading through this, most people wouldn't know a Pitbull from anyother Bull breed - sometimes even Bully owner's would be hard pressed to say for sure whats a Pitbull.

My older lad, 99% of people would say he's a Pitbull - but his licence says "mixed breed'', so in law he's a mongrel so laws pertaining to muzzles don't apply to him!.

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Tea-a-Maria · 02-08-2009 09:04PM

SV wrote: »

Why should "this dog" in particular be muzzled? Would you say the same if it was a little jack russell?

Yes,Jack Russells can be nasty little f*ckers too.:pac:

Seriously though,it can happen with any breed of dog.

jcatony · 02-08-2009 09:13PM

Political corruption, bribery, misappropriation of state funds, cronyism......

fryup · 02-08-2009 11:52PM

driving whilst using your mobile phone

bitemybanger · 03-08-2009 11:29AM

jaywalking??

Manic Moran · 03-08-2009 12:31PM

Jaywalking?

Crossing the road at an unapproved location. Generally only applicable in cities, but I'd like to read the law on that, actually.

As for the OP, I can think of two very obvious reasons why the Gard didn't do anything except admire the dog.

Firstly, I have absolutely no clue what kind of dog is what. Just because you can identify an American Pit Bull crossbreed doesn't mean that I can, or any other individual, be they Garda or not. I have enough trouble telling an Alsatian from a Chihuaha. They're short, have four legs, bark, and smell bad when wet. That's about as far as I can go. Now, I can wax poetic about sub-variants of tanks and firearms, but that's what I have spent my time learning. Seemed more practical to me.

Secondly, you are also assuming that the Garda even knows that the law exists. I didn't. Now, granted, I'm not a Garda, but I'm sure that if you took every law on the books that anyone could possibly violate, and put them into a single, easily transported volume, it would probably be about half the size of the Holy Bible. There's no way on God's green earth that one can remember all of them, and I'm fairly sure the Gardai would concern themselves a bit more with knowing traffic, offensive weapons or robbery laws than spending time studying dog breed identification and knowing that certain breeds need to be muzzled.

By way of example, here's a picture of the California Penal Code. http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41NpBNablpL._SS500_.jpg It's about a thousand pages, and contains only criminal offenses which I could run afoul of the police were I to break. Plus, it's only those deemed offenses by the State of California, it doesn't count federal, county or city laws. (Section 599 refers to dangerous dogs. You don't get to firearms until section 12,000 gives you an idea of how many laws are out there). Do you really expect a cop to know everything?

Instead, I recommend you direct your vitriol to politicians who keep passing laws, particularly 'feel-good' ones, for the PR benefit and without much thought to how either it will be enforced, or how it will actually affect anyone.

NTM

Snowie · 03-08-2009 12:41PM

hey my friend moo is a american pitbull and shes the frinedlest dog in the world

heres a pic

http://tinypic.com/r/rk6gk3/3

Jumpy · 03-08-2009 12:51PM

Snow-Monkey wrote: »

hey my friend moo is a american pitbull and shes the frinedlest dog in the world

heres a pic

http://tinypic.com/r/rk6gk3/3

Thats because Moo has no front legs! Duh.

Jesus Wept · 03-08-2009 01:09PM

SV wrote: »

Why should "this dog" in particular be muzzled? Would you say the same if it was a little jack russell?

I would, they are the worst.
They should be made extinct, I haven't encoutered one that didn't bite me/try to bite me.

brian ireland · 03-08-2009 01:15PM

Manic Moran wrote: »

Instead, I recommend you direct your vitriol to politicians who keep passing laws, particularly 'feel-good' ones, for the PR benefit and without much thought to how either it will be enforced, or how it will actually affect anyone.

NTM

WOW!!1 Thats a bit harsh! Kinda put me off posting if thats the attitude from a Mod.
Unless you are trolling to wind me up????

vitriol
Noun
language expressing bitterness and hatred

Can I have my subscription back?

OneArt · 03-08-2009 01:30PM

I know it's kinda off-topic but it really annoys me when people say we must follow the law "because its the law".

Sometimes laws are stupid and illogical and go against common sense. If everyone just "accepted" all laws passed then Communism would probably still exist. Like the bloody blasphemy law. It's stupid. In fact it makes me even more tempted to blaspheme...

Little rant over.

Manic Moran · 03-08-2009 01:35PM

WOW!!1 Thats a bit harsh! Kinda put me off posting if thats the attitude from a Mod.

1) I am not a mod on this sub-forum.
2) I wholeheartedly approve of vitriol when directed against the correct people. Just because you are not vitriolic doesn't mean I don't think you should be!

NTM

phasers · 03-08-2009 02:08PM

People really should be more worried about small dogs because they're all grumpy bastards

senordingdong · 03-08-2009 02:23PM

brian ireland wrote: »

I was in the city center today(Dublin). i was standing on the corner of moore street. I was gobsmacked to see a man with a pit-bull dog standing in front of me and to his left the Garda. The dog had no muzzle on its mouth. The guard was looking at the dog like he was admiring it. i am sure this dog should be muzzled in a public place!!!!! this is just one law made but obviously not enforced. how many more are there? Lights on yer bike? litter laws. What do you think?

Maybe that Garda was scared of the pit-bull.
Remember, it didn't have a muzzle.

03-08-2009 02:58PM

Edith Numerous Test wrote: »

I've been bit by a JRT too!.. So has my older dog.

Just reading through this, most people wouldn't know a Pitbull from anyother Bull breed - sometimes even Bully owner's would be hard pressed to say for sure whats a Pitbull.

My older lad, 99% of people would say he's a Pitbull - but his licence says "mixed breed'', so in law he's a mongrel so laws pertaining to muzzles don't apply to him!.

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I'm not sure:

1998 Control of Dogs Regulations
The Control of Dogs Regulations 1998 identify 10 breeds of dog which are subject to stricter regulations which requires that in a public place the dog should be:

(i) securely muzzled; and
(ii) being led by a sufficiently strong chain or leash, not exceeding two metres in length, by a person over the age of sixteen years who is capable of controlling the said dog.
The following breeds are covered by the 1998 regulations
(a) American Pitbull Terrier, (b) Bull Mastiff (c) Doberman Pinscher, (d) English Bull Terrier, (e) German Shepherd (Alsatian), (f) Japanese Akita, (g) Japanese Tosa, (h) Rhodesian Ridgeback, (i) Rottweiler, (J) Staffordshire Bull Terrier, and to every dog of the type commonly known as a Ban Dog (or Bandog) and to every other strain or cross of every breed of every type of dog described above.

http://www.dublincity.ie/Community/AnimalWelfare/Pages/DogControl.aspx

Keogg · 03-08-2009 03:33PM

Those laws are f*cking Retarded.

My dog was a collie/springer spaniel. He didn't legally count as a vicious dog, but he was put down because he was vicious and bit a friend of mine.

Another friend of mine has an alsation and a pit bull and they're the friendlist dogs you can meet.

Generalising dogs by breeds doesn't work!!!:mad:

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OK-Cancel-Apply · 03-08-2009 03:51PM

I think some people here need to realise there's a difference between being bitten by a small dog and a big powerful one. It's not rocket science.

After all, there's a reason why we don't restrain cats, despite the fact that they like to scratch people.

BaconZombie · 03-08-2009 03:51PM

Jaywalking is not ilegal in Ireland and never has.

rubadub wrote: »

Jaywalking is not often enforced. My mates brother was done for it on the N11. I have seen a garda actively assisting children to jaywalk in the exact same place where he was done for it, bitch should have been done for aiding and abetting! There was a pedestrian flyover right over where she was doing it.

gurramok · 03-08-2009 04:28PM

Fireworks laws for individual use. Dealers/suppliers have been caught over the years but you never hear of Johnny the Skanger being in court for possessing a banger and throwing it at his elderly neighbour.

Its a funny law alright. The Dublin skylight has been lit up every year since at least the 70's by illegal fireworks at Halloween/New Years and yet the Gardai did nothing about it!

Laws passed never enforced!!

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