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Attitudes to Porn... Mod Warning Post 719
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TrueYeah but that's like saying someone who eats regularly but doesn't put on excessive weight is a non problematic food addict.
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Except that you'll die if you don't eat.
I think sex is more comparable to a drug than food in this sense.
Why? I personally find it interesting to do so and to draw parallels between things...No I don't agree. I think that that's a wrong use for the word addiction and lessens the magnitute of what the word 'addiction' means in society and to people who have been affected by it.
I don't think that consensual sex between 2 (or more) adults needs to be so closely defined tbh.0 -
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PrivateEye wrote: »The pornography industry is probably one of the most diverse in the world. I dont see how one can have a one answer 'attitude to porn', when as an industry it ranges from underpaid women in Eastern Europe to something as glossy and worker-friendly as the Suicide Girls.
A feminist named Andrea Dworking wrote a book titled Pornography: Men Possessing Women where she argued that porn was central to the power-dynamics of the male/female relationship, and the entire industry was somehow commiting an 'act of violence' against women.
I don't buy that for a second. I've no doubt plenty of women who are more than happy with their lives have watched pornography and dont feel in any way degraded by my gender as a result of it. Providing the industry places a greater emphasis on the rights of its workers (because these women (and men) are workers remember, and face a lot more exploitation in parts of the world than any of us) I'm pretty meh to the whole thing.
Like you said the porn industry is very diverse and changes from country to country. I do find porns from certain cultures is degrading to women, like the infamous tentacle rape scenes from japan, which are a result of Japanese laws forbidding publishers and film makers to show penises. Rape comics and guides being sold in standard newsagents BUT it has to be looked in the context of the culture and if japanese women find themselves degraded by it then it is up to them to change it. If I thought porn produce in Ireland was degarding to women I would stop it or better yet make decent Irish porn
Again I say if people are going to talk about something promoting violence againist women and more importantly sexual violence againist women, violence in our media and glorifying war is what needs to be altered and reporting and pushining war rape crimes rather the sweeping them under the rug - everyone can talk about people killed during war but few talk about the millions of women who were gang raped by soilders on both sides during ww2 or the 'comfort women' kept by soilders. and more recent cases in eastern europe and africa.0 -
I fast forward the sex to look at the story.
Watching Porn- you're doing it wrong.:P
With all the internet sex in the future doctors will be tell couples who can't conceive, no you are meant to come inside the woman and not on her face.
I know the above was probably meant to be light-hearted, but in all seriousness, porn has been around for centuries in various guises, and the human race hasn't died out yet, and people still, funnily enough, actually know how to have sex correctly.
I honestly don't see what is so shocking about watching people having sex when it's something the entire population of the world does.
And I don't see how it's degrading to women unless she has been forced into doing it.
Why is it never thought to be degrading to the male porn stars or the men watching it?
Whenever I hear these arguments, it's always "oh, those poor girls having sex for money!" , the male 'actors' are rarely mentioned. 0 -
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Watching Porn- you're doing it wrong.:P
I know the above was probably meant to be light-hearted, but in all seriousness, porn has been around for centuries in various guises, and the human race hasn't died out yet, and people still, funnily enough, actually know how to have sex correctly.
I honestly don't see what is so shocking about watching people having sex when it's something the entire population of the world does.
And I don't see how it's degrading to women unless she has been forced into doing it.
Why is it never thought to be degrading to the male porn stars or the men watching it? Whenever I hear these arguments, it's always "oh, those poor girls having sex for money!" , the male 'actors' are rarely mentioned.
presumabley that attitude stems from the theory that men dont get emotional about sex , they are ready to fcuk on Q at all times , while this is not the case with all men , it is with me
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presumabley that attitude stems from the theory that men dont get emotional about sex , they are ready to fcuk on Q at all times , while this is not the case with all men , it is with me
Yeah, that's probably it, and the idea that men get more 'excited' visually than women. It's not always the case though. :P0 -
Probably the same reason that heterosexual male rape is not considered a big deal.Why is it never thought to be degrading to the male porn stars or the men watching it? Whenever I hear these arguments, it's always "oh, those poor girls having sex for money!" , the male 'actors' are rarely mentioned.
With the exclusion of homosexual acts, our culture is one where it is quietly thought that men cannot be degraded sexually, and yet female sexual degradation is seen as a huge issue.
tbh, I'm not sure if attitudes need to change to acknowledge that men can get equally sexually degraded, or to acknowledge female sexual degradation as less of a big deal.0 -
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