Homeless excuses

Milky Moo · 26-07-2009 01:31PM

Do I think you are mean?
No,not at all you are under no obligation to give people money.

I never give beggars money,I have no problem giving to charity etc but I just can't give it to people knowing they are probably going to drink it or use it for drugs.

I will buy them a cup of tea or sandwich no bother.
Of course most of them would prefer the money to buy some cans or whatever but I just don't want my money going to the very thing that probably caused them to end up on the streets.

I saw a woman just at the end of Henry street with an 8 year old girl or so,they looked like they were new to the streets.
I was in a rush and couldn't stop to ask if they would like a cup of tea or whatever,I actually feel really bad thinking back on that.

brendansmith · 26-07-2009 01:33PM

Tallon wrote: »

What I wanna know is what ever happend to the aul, "howaya bud, im homeless, i'd love a cup of tea / few cans, any spare change?"

Its called evolution baby.

You get sick of hearing the same old sh!t of these lads. I usually demand and dance or a softly spoken poem before parting with my money. I had to work for it why shouldnt he?

DrinkFeckArse · 26-07-2009 07:40PM

I was reading this earlier and it reminded me of a few weeks back when me and my bf were out and a guy approached us. He stops me, stands in front of me and starts saying "Sorry to bother you. Now I know this isn't any of your concern but I'm not from here and I know this isn't any of your concern but I'm homeless...and I know this isn't any of your concern but I've got no money...and I know this isn't any of your concern but you look so kind and I need to get back home on the bus blah blah blah" in a really whiny voice looking at me with the big eyes and everything.
I told him I had nothing on me (which I didn't anyway) so he turns to my boyfriend and starts on at him, asking him to check his pockets. He told him he had nothing either. The guys voice and face just changed. He muttered something like "ah **** it then" and walked off.

So today after reading this we saw him again. :eek:
He comes over and starts asking my bf if he can talk to him. We told him no and kept walking. As soon as we got past him a woman stands in front of me and starts saying "Can I talk to you. I've got no money for the bus and I'm lost and do you mind if I ask you a question?". "Yes I do mind now **** off". :mad:

She was lost and had no money for the bus but was holding a freshly opened packet of fags. He should've got the bus home 3 weeks ago but was apparently lost again and this time he was wearing a shiny new tracksuit. :rolleyes:

26-07-2009 07:55PM

Milky Moo wrote: »

Of course most of them would prefer the money to buy some cans or whatever but I just don't want my money going to the very thing that probably caused them to end up on the streets.

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See this is a common misconception. While true in alot of cases there are so many homeless people who became addicted to drugs/drink because they were homeless and not the other way around. The reason alot of them drink is to numb the pain of being homeless. To make the day pass quicker etc.

A couple of years ago there was a bloke sitting outside my job - clearly homeless - not begging but just sitting and saying hello to people as they passed by. I saw him pick up a cigarette butt and try to get a drag off the end of it, so I went into the shop, bought him a breakfast roll and 20 john player blue. The man nearly cried, not for the roll, but for the smokes, he was so happy. I thought, yeh, I hate smoking, but that man has enough sh*t in his life without me judging him and without having to fight a nicotine addiction too!

I have to say though, I don't think I could be arsed with someone going to all the trouble of lying about needing €2 either, but then again, I'm not in their shoes so I don't know what it's like to have to think up of ways to get €2 for a cup of tea or a can of cider.

Acacia · 26-07-2009 09:55PM

Kernel wrote: »

Ah I remember that fella, a regular character. Yeah, he died on the ha'penny bridge around 5 years ago. Froze to death as far as I remember. Doctors said his last words were 'why did they laugh at me, why.... whyyyyy?'. They reckon a cup of tea or a few pence would have saved him.

For real? That's fcuking depressing...:(

I'd rather they just be straight up and say " here, i'm homeless, need cash..."

Though I would rather just buy them food or something.

Four-Percent · 26-07-2009 10:03PM

Tallon wrote: »

Thirdly, the chap was clearly pissed, like flaggin of cider pissed

Is that not like 2 cans? Give him the 2 euro and tell him to buy some real drink...

k99_64 · 26-07-2009 10:11PM

"sorry there bud but could I borrow yur phone"

gurramok · 26-07-2009 10:36PM

I never give to Roma beggars. FFS, if they can afford the flight all the way to this island in the Atlantic Ocean, they ain't genuine homeless.

There is always a Dub fella begging outside the Tesco, Baggot st. On entering the shop, he says 'spare change after you come out please?', very creative!

When i saw him first time, i said to myself, another scammer. But when i was queueing at the till with a view of the outside, i spotted him eating a sandwich, that touched my heart

I always give him a few euro whenever i visit there. So what if he has a beer on it, as long as he gets a bit of grub and whats a few euro these days, it will not break the bank on most of us.

brendansmith · 26-07-2009 11:04PM

Id have alot of reservations about eating a sandwich that had touched someones heart.

grundie · 27-07-2009 12:38PM

There's a guy who I see a lot on Gardiner Street, he has the creative story but he backs it up with an aggressive attitude.

The first time I seen him he had just liberated two tourists of what looked like €5.00. As I got nearer I tried to avoid him, but he was having none of that. He literally stood in front of me forcing me to stop. When I ignored him and tried to shuffle around him he wasn't going to let it happen. So I stopped and listened to his spiel. Apparently he had been mugged the night before. He claimed to have two black eyes, which he didn't, and that he needed to get back to Monagahan and needed €30.00 for the fare. Whilst he was talking he was aggressively pushing his chest into mine whilst staring directly in to my eyes.

This guy had a mobile phone around his neck, was spotlessly clean and lacked many of the injuries he claimed to have received in his mugging. I just said "sorry, no cash on me", he got enraged by this and demanded I check my pockets. I just chuckled and walked on. I see him trying to pull the same stunt on Gardiner Street every few days, he even approaches cars waiting at the traffic lights at the junction of Talbot Street. I would praise him for trying, but his posturing is very aggressive and would intimidate a lot of people. I seen him hassling a guy in a wheelchair once, I went and told two Gards who had words with him.

There's also a foreign couple who have stopped me at least six time over the last year begging for the fare to get to Tralee. They are easily spotted by their large, and presumably empty, luminous green suitcase. The first time they stopped me next the CHQ building I almost gave them a few quid as they seemed perfectly respectable and convincing, but I had no cash on me at the time. They then stopped me two days later outside Busaras with the same story. My wife reported an encounter with them a few days later as well.

There is also a woman with a toddler in a pram who hangs around Super Valu in Talbot Street begging passers by for money for the child. Someone close to me was once accosted by this lady, the person I know told her that she wouldn't give her cash but would take her into Super Valu and buy her food. The lady in question filled a trolley with €120 worth of goods, my friend actually paid for it all on her card. The chancer then demanded that my friend take her to Guiney's to buy some clothes for her. She got short shrift for that request. I wouldn't have minded, but joint accounts and all that.

AnonoBoy · 27-07-2009 12:43PM

I've noticed a lot of guys starting with "Do you speak English?" or "Are you from Dublin, bud?" as an intro line.

Because naturally if I speak English or am from Dublin it will mean we are brothers and I will automatically give them money.

What doesn't help is if they're so twisted drunk that they can't see straight. I will never give money to people who are completely wasted. Not a hope.

Cuddlesworth · 27-07-2009 01:22PM

I will never give a homeless person in this country money. If they are foreign(ie English) they can piss off home and avail of their country's unemployment benefits. If they are Irish then the only reason they could possibly be homeless is a drink/drugs addiction. And that's their problem not mine. Natural selection will get rid of them soon enough.

Think I'm being harsh. Every time you have given money to a beggar you can either given money to a conman or helped feed a addicts addiction and keep them in the gutter.

AnonoBoy · 27-07-2009 02:10PM

Cuddlesworth wrote: »

If they are Irish then the only reason they could possibly be homeless is a drink/drugs addiction.

That's wholly inaccurate.

http://www.simon.ie/index.php?page=why-people-become-homeless

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