Homeless excuses

Tallon

Right, so I'm at the kings of concrete comp today and while im munchin away on a burger, this chungfella comes up to me with the most imaginative story

"aright bud, listen, i just locked myself out of my mini cooper sport around the corner and ive called my sister because she has the spare key. can you spare €2 so that I can phone her and tell her where the car is parked because shes on the way in now and doesnt know where in Dublin i am"

Now as you can see, there are a couple of loop holes in the story.
Firstly, a man wouldnt drive a mini cooper.
Secondly, if he rang his sister already, why does he need to call her again & where did he call her from in the first place?
Thirdly, the chap was clearly pissed, like flaggin of cider pissed
Fourthly, 5mins prior as I was ordering my burger, i seen the chap rob a few sausages that were litterally on the cooker 17seconds, and eat them!
Fifthly, the chap had so many tracks on his arm that the luas nearly merged with him on the way by.


What I wanna know is what ever happend to the aul, "howaya bud, im homeless, i'd love a cup of tea / few cans, any spare change?"

I used to lash people any change I had, because at the end of the day, I have everything I want, if I dont, I go out and buy it.
But now when you get approched by the same guy 3 times on your short trip around the big smoke and he gives you 3 differnet, ever more varied, ever more imagined excuses, It just P!sses me off. Does this make me a bad person? You decide!

"Just gimme the money" is all their short of now.
That was a good creative one though

duckysauce

I have everything I want, if I dont, I go out and buy it. jayus

yep makes you sound like a tool alright

galwayrush

You should have asked him if he accepted visa.;)

Mr Benevolent

galwayrush wrote: »

You should have asked him if he accepted visa.;)

Nah. No-one wants to see a junkie drop his pants and bend over.

Armin_Tamzarian

TBH I would have give him the €2.
Very refreshing to see a bum putting some effort into his stories.
Shame on you for not coughing up OP, especially seeing as how you have everything you want.

soundsham

lucky he didn't crack you over the head and rob your wallet and phone

Super-Rush

have ya got 2 euroooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

CreepingDeath

Tallon wrote: »

Does this make me a bad person? You decide!

Charity is overrated and counter-productive to evolution and natural selection.

Ponster

Sorry for asking a serious question In AH on a Sat night but do people who beg in Ireland actually say how much they would like to receive? i.e. "2 euro" ????

Super-Rush

Ponster wrote: »

Sorry for asking a serious question In AH on a Sat night but do people who beg in Ireland actually say how much they would like to receive? i.e. "2 euro" ????

Serious answer, yes they do. It usually goes ' Can i have 2 euroooooo for a cup of tea/something to eat/make a call/the bus'

yoursaviour1989

a junkie once asked me for €2 ta get the bus ta town ta go ta jail coz the police had told her too...
make of that what you will

Fluorescence

No I don't think you're a bad person...

I was on holiday in the U.S.A. recently, and I saw one homeless chap sitting on the street with a cardboard sign that said, "I'm not going to lie - need money for cigs and booze." People were giving him loads because they liked his style and found it amusing. :rolleyes:

ScumLord

Tallon wrote: »

Firstly, a man wouldnt drive a mini cooper.

Even though the mini cooper is an animal of a car unfit for any woman to drive there is this thing called homosexuality.

Secondly, if he rang his sister already, why does he need to call her again & where did he call her from in the first place?

A phone box, someone else's phone.

Thirdly, the chap was clearly pissed, like flaggin of cider pissed

Show me someone who isn't pissed, In fact he sounds like a stand up guy being pissed and asking his sis to come and collect him so he doesn't have to drive. I'd say he planned that though.

Fourthly, 5mins prior as I was ordering my burger, i seen the chap rob a few sausages that were litterally on the cooker 17seconds, and eat them!

He broke into the chipper and robbed uncooked sausages?

I think your sullying the good name of this fine upstanding citizen. Shame on you! Shame indeed sir!

Tallon

Armin_Tamzarian wrote: »

TBH I would have give him the €2.
Very refreshing to see a bum putting some effort into his stories.
Shame on you for not coughing up OP, especially seeing as how you have everything you want.

I actually gave him €3+ shrapnal

Bet you feel like an ass now, huh?

Toasty113

Ive got a friend who once let a homeless guy stay at his house caus he thought his sign was funny. Thats a lesson for all the homeless out there (who are somehow on the internet), get creative and you'll get more!

Ivona Tinkle

About 5 years ago I seen a homeless man on the ha'penny bridge with a sign "all proceeds go to fund my alcohol addiction"

To my shame I laughed at him and walked by:(, the man was being honest and I feel like I should have thrown him a few bob and not laughed at him

Yes I feel guilty the man stuck in my mind and I cant forget it:o:(

if I ever see him again Ill buy him a bottle of whiskey

GLaDOS

fluorescence wrote: »

No I don't think you're a bad person...

I was on holiday in the U.S.A. recently, and I saw one homeless chap sitting on the street with a cardboard sign that said, "I'm not going to lie - need money for cigs and booze." People were giving him loads because they liked his style and found it amusing. :rolleyes:

Reminds me of this

The_Minister

ScumLord wrote: »

Even though the mini cooper is an animal of a car unfit for any woman to drive there is this thing called homosexuality.


...............


He broke into the chipper and robbed uncooked sausages?

Hee hee.


I'm so tired that that seemed funny

patrickc

homeless people rock simple as

AlkalineAcid

Some of the posts here remind me of this.

ThenComesDudley

i dunno op i was at the KoC today, and some guy was tearing up the hill (handel st?) where Karma is, onto Dame st in a Mini Cooper, maybe he was telling the truth?

Kernel

Ivona Tinkle wrote: »

About 5 years ago I seen a homeless man on the ha'penny bridge with a sign "all proceeds go to fund my alcohol addiction"

To my shame I laughed at him and walked by:(, the man was being honest and I feel like I should have thrown him a few bob and not laughed at him

Yes I feel guilty the man stuck in my mind and I cant forget it:o:(

if I ever see him again Ill buy him a bottle of whiskey

Ah I remember that fella, a regular character. Yeah, he died on the ha'penny bridge around 5 years ago. Froze to death as far as I remember. Doctors said his last words were 'why did they laugh at me, why.... whyyyyy?'. They reckon a cup of tea or a few pence would have saved him.

To the OP: You're soft, and encouraging these pains in the arse. Did he intimidate you on some level? Try saying 'no, I don't give money away'. It's liberating!

Tallon

Tallon wrote: »

the chap had so many tracks on his arm that the luas nearly merged with him on the way by.

defo gonna steal that ta make a few new friends in the next few weeks :cool:

Collie D

Tallon wrote: »

Right, so I'm at the kings of concrete comp today and while im munchin away on a burger, this chungfella comes up to me with the most imaginative story

"aright bud, listen, i just locked myself out of my mini cooper sport around the corner and ive called my sister because she has the spare key. can you spare €2 so that I can phone her and tell her where the car is parked because shes on the way in now and doesnt know where in Dublin i am"

Seriously?

Caoimhín

I met a homeless guy off Grafton Street the other morning, bought him coffee and bread.
I got talking to him, poor chap from Engerland, out of work and not entitled to any benefit. Sooo, i got talking to him and in the end he had to make up an excuse to leave because i was boring the head off him, droning on about the state of the economy.

Handsome Bob

I always give homeless people any spare change I have, I can't even begin to imagine what it's like. These days there are a good few that feel ashamed about sitting on the ground begging and I'm not going to hold that against them. If someone comes up to me and says "Sorry mate can I have 2 euro for the bus, I've no change" I'll just say no bother and give them the 2 euro. You can tell by their appearance that they are homeless or at least going through a rough time, so I'm not going to be a wanker and give them the 3rd degree about it.

Collie D

LZ5by5 wrote: »

If someone comes up to me and says "Sorry mate can I have 2 euro for the bus, I've no change" I'll just say no bother and give them the 2 euro. You can tell by their appearance that they are homeless or at least going through a rough time, so I'm not going to be a wanker and give them the 3rd degree about it.

I'm the opposite. If somebody asks me for change for bus/train/phone call because their car broke down they won't get a cent. I don't like people assuming I am thick enough to believe their lies.

Handsome Bob

Collie D wrote: »

I'm the opposite. If somebody asks me for change for bus/train/phone call because their car broke down they won't get a cent. I don't like people assuming I am thick enough to believe their lies.

What's it to me if some bloke I'll most likely never see again thinks he pulled the wool over my eyes, all for the sake of €2?

Collie D

LZ5by5 wrote: »

What's it to me if some bloke I'll most likely never see again thinks he pulled the wool over my eyes, all for the sake of €2?

Fair enough. I just have a thing about being lied to/people assuming I am thick enough to fall for their bull****. Nigerian emails really piss me off

DamoDLK

LZ5by5 wrote: »

What's it to me if some bloke I'll most likely never see again thinks he pulled the wool over my eyes, all for the sake of €2?

When i was in uni, down the country, i'd be going home at the weekend via Connolly station, the same bloke every week would be there asking for 2euro, as he cant afford his train ticket. It would have been less obvious that he was tapping if he just took the 2quid, and left, but no! he asks others in the queue for the same, he never got a cent off me again...

Milky Moo

Do I think you are mean?
No,not at all you are under no obligation to give people money.

I never give beggars money,I have no problem giving to charity etc but I just can't give it to people knowing they are probably going to drink it or use it for drugs.

I will buy them a cup of tea or sandwich no bother.
Of course most of them would prefer the money to buy some cans or whatever but I just don't want my money going to the very thing that probably caused them to end up on the streets.

I saw a woman just at the end of Henry street with an 8 year old girl or so,they looked like they were new to the streets.
I was in a rush and couldn't stop to ask if they would like a cup of tea or whatever,I actually feel really bad thinking back on that.

brendansmith

Tallon wrote: »

What I wanna know is what ever happend to the aul, "howaya bud, im homeless, i'd love a cup of tea / few cans, any spare change?"

Its called evolution baby.

You get sick of hearing the same old sh!t of these lads. I usually demand and dance or a softly spoken poem before parting with my money. I had to work for it why shouldnt he?

DrinkFeckArse

I was reading this earlier and it reminded me of a few weeks back when me and my bf were out and a guy approached us. He stops me, stands in front of me and starts saying "Sorry to bother you. Now I know this isn't any of your concern but I'm not from here and I know this isn't any of your concern but I'm homeless...and I know this isn't any of your concern but I've got no money...and I know this isn't any of your concern but you look so kind and I need to get back home on the bus blah blah blah" in a really whiny voice looking at me with the big eyes and everything.
I told him I had nothing on me (which I didn't anyway) so he turns to my boyfriend and starts on at him, asking him to check his pockets. He told him he had nothing either. The guys voice and face just changed. He muttered something like "ah **** it then" and walked off.

So today after reading this we saw him again. :eek:
He comes over and starts asking my bf if he can talk to him. We told him no and kept walking. As soon as we got past him a woman stands in front of me and starts saying "Can I talk to you. I've got no money for the bus and I'm lost and do you mind if I ask you a question?". "Yes I do mind now **** off". :mad:

She was lost and had no money for the bus but was holding a freshly opened packet of fags. He should've got the bus home 3 weeks ago but was apparently lost again and this time he was wearing a shiny new tracksuit. :rolleyes:

Milky Moo

Milky Moo wrote: »

Of course most of them would prefer the money to buy some cans or whatever but I just don't want my money going to the very thing that probably caused them to end up on the streets.

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See this is a common misconception. While true in alot of cases there are so many homeless people who became addicted to drugs/drink because they were homeless and not the other way around. The reason alot of them drink is to numb the pain of being homeless. To make the day pass quicker etc.

A couple of years ago there was a bloke sitting outside my job - clearly homeless - not begging but just sitting and saying hello to people as they passed by. I saw him pick up a cigarette butt and try to get a drag off the end of it, so I went into the shop, bought him a breakfast roll and 20 john player blue. The man nearly cried, not for the roll, but for the smokes, he was so happy. I thought, yeh, I hate smoking, but that man has enough sh*t in his life without me judging him and without having to fight a nicotine addiction too!

I have to say though, I don't think I could be arsed with someone going to all the trouble of lying about needing €2 either, but then again, I'm not in their shoes so I don't know what it's like to have to think up of ways to get €2 for a cup of tea or a can of cider.

Acacia

Kernel wrote: »

Ah I remember that fella, a regular character. Yeah, he died on the ha'penny bridge around 5 years ago. Froze to death as far as I remember. Doctors said his last words were 'why did they laugh at me, why.... whyyyyy?'. They reckon a cup of tea or a few pence would have saved him.

For real? That's fcuking depressing...:(

I'd rather they just be straight up and say " here, i'm homeless, need cash..."

Though I would rather just buy them food or something.

Four-Percent

Tallon wrote: »

Thirdly, the chap was clearly pissed, like flaggin of cider pissed

Is that not like 2 cans? Give him the 2 euro and tell him to buy some real drink...

k99_64

"sorry there bud but could I borrow yur phone"

gurramok

I never give to Roma beggars. FFS, if they can afford the flight all the way to this island in the Atlantic Ocean, they ain't genuine homeless.

There is always a Dub fella begging outside the Tesco, Baggot st. On entering the shop, he says 'spare change after you come out please?', very creative!

When i saw him first time, i said to myself, another scammer. But when i was queueing at the till with a view of the outside, i spotted him eating a sandwich, that touched my heart

I always give him a few euro whenever i visit there. So what if he has a beer on it, as long as he gets a bit of grub and whats a few euro these days, it will not break the bank on most of us.

brendansmith

Id have alot of reservations about eating a sandwich that had touched someones heart.

grundie

There's a guy who I see a lot on Gardiner Street, he has the creative story but he backs it up with an aggressive attitude.

The first time I seen him he had just liberated two tourists of what looked like €5.00. As I got nearer I tried to avoid him, but he was having none of that. He literally stood in front of me forcing me to stop. When I ignored him and tried to shuffle around him he wasn't going to let it happen. So I stopped and listened to his spiel. Apparently he had been mugged the night before. He claimed to have two black eyes, which he didn't, and that he needed to get back to Monagahan and needed €30.00 for the fare. Whilst he was talking he was aggressively pushing his chest into mine whilst staring directly in to my eyes.

This guy had a mobile phone around his neck, was spotlessly clean and lacked many of the injuries he claimed to have received in his mugging. I just said "sorry, no cash on me", he got enraged by this and demanded I check my pockets. I just chuckled and walked on. I see him trying to pull the same stunt on Gardiner Street every few days, he even approaches cars waiting at the traffic lights at the junction of Talbot Street. I would praise him for trying, but his posturing is very aggressive and would intimidate a lot of people. I seen him hassling a guy in a wheelchair once, I went and told two Gards who had words with him.

There's also a foreign couple who have stopped me at least six time over the last year begging for the fare to get to Tralee. They are easily spotted by their large, and presumably empty, luminous green suitcase. The first time they stopped me next the CHQ building I almost gave them a few quid as they seemed perfectly respectable and convincing, but I had no cash on me at the time. They then stopped me two days later outside Busaras with the same story. My wife reported an encounter with them a few days later as well.

There is also a woman with a toddler in a pram who hangs around Super Valu in Talbot Street begging passers by for money for the child. Someone close to me was once accosted by this lady, the person I know told her that she wouldn't give her cash but would take her into Super Valu and buy her food. The lady in question filled a trolley with €120 worth of goods, my friend actually paid for it all on her card. The chancer then demanded that my friend take her to Guiney's to buy some clothes for her. She got short shrift for that request. I wouldn't have minded, but joint accounts and all that.

AnonoBoy

I've noticed a lot of guys starting with "Do you speak English?" or "Are you from Dublin, bud?" as an intro line.

Because naturally if I speak English or am from Dublin it will mean we are brothers and I will automatically give them money.

What doesn't help is if they're so twisted drunk that they can't see straight. I will never give money to people who are completely wasted. Not a hope.

Cuddlesworth

I will never give a homeless person in this country money. If they are foreign(ie English) they can piss off home and avail of their country's unemployment benefits. If they are Irish then the only reason they could possibly be homeless is a drink/drugs addiction. And that's their problem not mine. Natural selection will get rid of them soon enough.

Think I'm being harsh. Every time you have given money to a beggar you can either given money to a conman or helped feed a addicts addiction and keep them in the gutter.

AnonoBoy

Cuddlesworth wrote: »

If they are Irish then the only reason they could possibly be homeless is a drink/drugs addiction.

That's wholly inaccurate.

http://www.simon.ie/index.php?page=why-people-become-homeless