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Warcraft: The Movie

  • 07-08-2007 3:28am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,258 ✭✭✭✭Rabies


    Empireonline
    It’s not enough that more than eight million people have forsworn society, sunlight and the real world to ensconce themselves in the magical world of Azeroth, soon this most obsessively popular of computer games will be taking over multiplexes as well. The World of Warcraft film is on its way and at the recent BlizzCon event (thrown by the game’s developer, Blizzard) it was announced that it will be with us the year after next.

    Producer Thomas Tull confirmed a planned 2009 release date for the movie, estimating a healthy budget of $100 million for the fantasy adaptation.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭qwertplaywert


    may the geek gods have mercy on us all


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭Wreck


    Sam Rami had been signed up to direct this, with the company behind Batman and 12 Monkeys producing. Full story here.

    This is good news imo, as it looks like Blizzard are taking a lot of care to ensure that this is done right. Rami has an excellent track record (Spiderman 3 shouldn't count), and with him at the helm this could end up being very enjoyable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,136 ✭✭✭Pugsley


    Would have preferred Starcraft (being a huge fan of SC), but this should be worth checking out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,942 ✭✭✭missingtime


    The South Park episode was genuis!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    Is there an actual storyline with central characters in World of Warcraft?

    I ask because I play Oblivion, and that always seemed really similar to WoW. In Oblivion, you create your own character. Is it the same in WoW? If so will the guys writing the script for WoW be making up their own characters to fit into the general world of WoW?

    Sorry if this is confusing!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,698 ✭✭✭✭BlitzKrieg


    LZ5by5 wrote: »
    Is there an actual storyline with central characters in World of Warcraft?

    Well the warcraft series does have a series of central characters and a storyline. World of Warcraft takes place a number of years after the events of the third game (+add on pack) and alot of the mmo's plot and characters are taken from there. But yes like oblivion you create your own character that does quests etc for these characters.

    On the movie it can go one of two ways for it to be good adaptation.

    Either they opt for a warcraft movie where it will adapt the prior games (most likely warcraft 3) and thus get the whole epic battles etc and strong popular characters from the franchise, it appeal to wow players while at the same time not alienate the few non wow people remaining because it starts at the beginning essentially.


    Or they go for a world of warcraft adventure film. This would give the filmmakers alot of freedom, opting for a sort of conan the barbarian style adventure film within the wow universe. Again fans are pleased as nods and locations directly from the game (and maybe a quest or two) are taken directly from favourite dungeons. While non wow people will have a chunk of stuff go over their heads it wont be any worse then the millions of marvel nods in the comic book films.


    The bad thing for them to do is to try and do some epic war scenario within the wow timeframe cause that'll just piss off fans if they start getting big things wrong or changing them to suit the films plot etc Also it goes against the spirit of wow. Warcraft was all about the big armies etc but WoW focused on the adventurers and heroes.

    On a side note my experiance of wow was two brief attempts where I got my undead warlock to level 26 and gave up.

    I watch with interest though to see how blizzard sit with the film industry after Bungie's spectaculer step back with Halo.


    EDIT: Sam Raimi signed on would work for a world of warcraft adventure film...but the films title is simply warcraft that makes me think they are going to adapt warcraft 3.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 674 ✭✭✭jonny72


    This follows the same logic as making a movie called 'The Sims'. Its a certified cashcow, but by God they'll have to bend physics to make it remotely good. They should just do a remake of one of the Lord of the Rings films and replace the characters and creatures with those in Warcraft, and bingo, no one will notice.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,082 ✭✭✭lostexpectation


    are there any full lenght machina type wow films out there


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭][cEMAN**


    You'll find plenty of back story here.

    I think having a general history outline, but no real stories set in stone as such, means that the script writers can have a field day with this.

    They could set it in any timer period, pick any main character and take it from their perspective, or do a D&D complete F'up.

    Personally i'm hoping for a "Thrall's story" - Born from leadership, taken into slaver as a child, and when he became an adult he rose up and lead his people to freedom. It's almost biblical.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    Warcraft 3 had one of the best storylines of any game I've played, I think if any game series could have a decent film adaptation, it's this one. Having a good director at the helm, instead of the likes of Uwe Boll and Paul W.S. Anderson, greatly increases the chances of it being worth watching.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭][cEMAN**


    instead of the likes of Uwe Boll

    WHAT?! But he's the only guy in the movie business that isn't a retard...

    ...damn you Karl!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    ' wrote:
    [cEMAN**;61270275']WHAT?! But he's the only guy in the movie business that isn't a retard...

    ...damn you Karl!

    You know Uwe Boll did actually approach Blizzard so that he could make a Warcraft film?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭][cEMAN**


    Yeah I heard. Would you help him?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,707 ✭✭✭MikeC101


    You know Uwe Boll did actually approach Blizzard so that he could make a Warcraft film?

    Blizzards response was brilliant, if what Boll claims they said is true: “We will not sell the movie rights, not to you…. especially not to you.”


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    I assume this film will be about a young hero leaving the safety of his village only to be beaten to death by a group of evil-doers 50 levels above him. He'll be ressurected and leave his village again, only to be beaten to death again. This will repeat until either the hero gives up or the audience goes home.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,104 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    Hope it's about warcraft III, my favourite game!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,721 ✭✭✭Otacon


    Apologies if posting to this old thread is wrong, but I think this is the most relevant thread to post in.

    Empire Article
    Good grief… While Moon man Duncan Jones has been laying hints about a big new project in the works on the Twitter-wires, we’re not sure we expected this. Jones has signed on to tackle the Warcraft movie for Legendary Entertainment.

    Yes, the film based on Blizzard Entertainment’s massively multiplayer online role-playing game World Of Warcraft. The one that Sam Raimi had been developing to direct before he decided to head off to a different magical land for Oz The Great And Powerful instead.

    The director of Moon and Source Code making a Warcraft movie. This project has now piqued my interest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    special guest appearance by Leroy Jenkins


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    I would presume then that his sci-fi project 'Mute' is shelved then; that' a shame as it sounded like an interesting concept. Guess money talks in this instance.

    Speaking as a gamer, adaptations of games have consistently been a cinematic graveyard, and often it comes down to the fact that what makes games appealing is the interactive experience, not the mythos. Strip away the gamer from Warcraft and what's left is a pretty generic, over-earnest fantasy tale.

    I still hold out hope Bioshock will get made as the epic, dystopian parable - in the mould of films like Brazil - it could be.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    pixelburp wrote: »
    I would presume then that his sci-fi project 'Mute' is shelved then; that' a shame as it sounded like an interesting concept. Guess money talks in this instance.

    Speaking as a gamer, adaptations of games have consistently been a cinematic graveyard, and often it comes down to the fact that what makes games appealing is the interactive experience, not the mythos. Strip away the gamer from Warcraft and what's left is a pretty generic, over-earnest fantasy tale.

    I still hold out hope Bioshock will get made as the epic, dystopian parable - in the mould of films like Brazil - it could be.

    I can understand if doing this as a payday gives him leverage to get funding for a passion project, a lot of directors and actors do the same, whats that line Ari had in Entourage "you do one for them, then one for you"


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,494 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Some casting news, Ben Foster, Toby Kebbell, Robert Kazinsky, Dominic Cooper, Travis Fimmel and Paula Patton in Source


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    Glad about Ben Foster. He's an excellent actor who isn't in enough things.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,775 ✭✭✭✭Gbear


    First screenshot I've seen for the film:

    9gvEeUF.jpg

    Hopefully this isn't a giant sack of bums.

    It'd do great things for the gaming medium if we could start to see some decent adaptations.

    I think it'd draw more quality writers into gaming.

    Never played WOW, and the original was before my time but was a huge fan of WC2 and 3.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,100 ✭✭✭EoinMcLovin




  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    The audience-member's offhand comment isn't far off, that footage does feel very like 'Avatar': CGI motion-captures swaggering about, uncanny valley be damned. Hard to tell by the quality of the footage, but I hope those Orc scenes aren't 100% CGI because I had enough of that rubbish with The Hobbit. No idea what was meant to be happening though, I presume it means something to Warcraft fans :D

    Gotta say, I'm curious how little press and buzz this film has produced; everything has felt so under wraps and subdued in comparison with other big-ticket blockbusters on the horizon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,137 ✭✭✭✭TheDoc


    The film appears to use a lot of CGI and greenscreens, which potentially is fair enough considering the world we are talking about, but still will be a little disappointing no doubt.

    But as long as the script and story are strong, it will be a hit. The Warcraft universe is incredibly strong and has great characters and stories.

    Although typically when I get the "how can they **** this up" they typically go and **** it up


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,775 ✭✭✭✭Gbear


    Interview with Duncan Jones:



    Obviously he's not going to say it's a big pile of ****, but he seemed really into the whole thing.

    Caring is half the battle with these things.

    Most video game films have felt like something completely cynical from top to bottom, made as a sop to nerds.

    Now that the nerds have grown up, hopefully we can get something that's made with more passion and more competence.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,698 ✭✭✭✭BlitzKrieg


    Gbear wrote: »
    Interview with Duncan Jones:



    Obviously he's not going to say it's a big pile of ****, but he seemed really into the whole thing.

    Caring is half the battle with these things.

    Most video game films have felt like something completely cynical from top to bottom, made as a sop to nerds.

    Now that the nerds have grown up, hopefully we can get something that's made with more passion and more competence.


    He sold me on being one step ahead of most previous films based on games purely by his first comment on the nature of sides in warcraft being drawn from how the games allowed you to play both sides.


    Which goes a big way to explaining why most video game movies outright suck. They mostly take the storyline from the game but ignore the experiences of the player. of course most games have crappy stories when you remove the players interactions, filmmakers have never tried to adapt gameplay experiences. The closest I've seen is the first half of the first silent hill film.

    They keep trying to take the story of the game and fit in a movie mold, when in reality they should cut the game's story apart and take only the bits that work and take just as much from player's experiences to flesh it out.

    Consider the resident evil movies (pre Resident Evil 4) they told the correct stories, but they did it with kung fu kicks to dogs and other ridiculous set ups and never once tried to translate the sense of claustrophobia or pressure a player had in resident evil 1 or 2 in exploring the mansion or preserving ammo. But its ok because they showed the tiger statue or the umbrella train...bollocks.


    So I was dissapointed with the leaked footage, but that interview restores some confidence


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    As is traditional in these days of online marketing, the trailer... for the trailer... has been released. Am intrigued to finally see some footage of this thing.



    Pffh, looks like a video gam... oh wait. Nevermind :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,775 ✭✭✭✭Gbear


    The issue that these films will always have will be that they're not based on the works of a writer like Tolkien.

    The poetry of the prose, the stirring dialogue - even if there's nothing intrinsically better about it it's had 50+ years to gain cultural cachet.

    It was most obvious in comparing the dialogue based directly on Tolkien's work in the LOTR and Hobbit films and those that were completely invented by the writing team - ie, most of the stuff written for the film from scratch stuck out like a sore thumb and was incredibly jarring.
    "There's only one question you must ask yourself, how will this day end?"

    "I found something." "What did you find?" ".........[dramatic pause]........ my courage".


    and other things that seemed like they were purposefully written to stick in a trailer.

    Here we have
    "They are beasts and they should all be destroyed!"
    "Are you sure about that?"


    I don't expect much from this film during the talky bits - so long as I'm going "weeeee!" during the action I'll be completely satisfied, but jaysus that's some desperate repartee.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,001 ✭✭✭KilOit


    Star wars prequels cgi fest
    not sure how else they'd do it but looks ok


  • Registered Users Posts: 618 ✭✭✭Rael


    For its reported budget, it looks pretty meh and uninspiring.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,775 ✭✭✭✭Gbear


    Rael wrote: »
    For its reported budget, it looks pretty meh and uninspiring.

    There's a half a year before it's released.

    I'd be surprised if the shots we've seen are the final cut.

    That's the beauty about CGI - they can still working on it up until shortly before release.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,917 ✭✭✭nix


    Being a warcraft fan and playing it alot over the years, the movie looks terrible looking at that trailer... bland and generic.. I expected alot more it being blizzard


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,775 ✭✭✭✭Gbear


    nix wrote: »
    Being a warcraft fan and playing it alot over the years, the movie looks terrible looking at that trailer... bland and generic.. I expected alot more it being blizzard

    Granted, I haven't played WOW, but from what I know of the lore and having played WC 2 and 3, and most other Blizzard games, they're by turns convoluted or melodramatic bollocks.

    Story-telling is not Blizzard's strong suit, particularly not in more recent times, since they've gotten progressively more ambitious and their lack of writing talent has been exposed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    Not really familiar with the warcraft lore but that is one of the blandest and most formulaic trailers I've ever seen.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 24,974 Mod ✭✭✭✭Loughc


    The CGI on that trailer was sooooo bad. I mean really bad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    I've only played Warcraft II (a lot) and Warcraft III (a little). Mainly multiplayer.

    This look like it's gonna be pretty good.


  • Registered Users Posts: 983 ✭✭✭_Puma_


    Ain't got a patch on the old Warcraft 3 cinematics that played as the story progressed


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,304 ✭✭✭Jon Stark


    The trailer was pretty awkward alright, for one it felt like they just randomly slapped that music in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,406 ✭✭✭PirateShampoo


    Ah that's the guy who played Ragnor Lothbrok in Vikings.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,518 ✭✭✭matrim


    Boo, there wasn't a single "Okie Dokie" or "Work Work"


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    It just doesn't look great whatsoever. Maybe it's because I'm not a Blizzard fan boy, but the CGI just looked.. Meh. The Orcs don't look convincing whatsoever. I know Avatar has its flaws, but everything about the creatures they created looked good. I can't put my finger on it, but it just didn't sit with me. It also looks like something the Sci-Fi channel would have produced with a big budget.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,984 ✭✭✭Venom


    It just doesn't look great whatsoever. Maybe it's because I'm not a Blizzard fan boy, but the CGI just looked.. Meh. The Orcs don't look convincing whatsoever. I know Avatar has its flaws, but everything about the creatures they created looked good. I can't put my finger on it, but it just didn't sit with me. It also looks like something the Sci-Fi channel would have produced with a big budget.


    Yeah the Orc CGI looked great for one of Blizzard's game trailer's but nowhere close to good enough for a movie. Lord of the Rings Orc's and Goblin's special effects totally craps on it from a height and that was made in 2001 :eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,770 ✭✭✭The Randy Riverbeast


    The human armour looks faker than the orcs.

    I want this film to be good but I'm expecting generic cheesy fantasy film #892.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 159 ✭✭Andrew Laeddis


    Can't believe all the hate for it :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,348 ✭✭✭✭ricero


    Looks shocking, a right turkey this seems. How much was the budget ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,775 ✭✭✭✭Gbear


    ricero wrote: »
    Looks shocking, a right turkey this seems. How much was the budget ?

    Only about 100m, which isn't much for something of this scale.

    It's why the cast are all pretty much nobodies.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,930 ✭✭✭✭TerrorFirmer


    It's a very decent budget considering it doesn't have huge A listers. Lord of the Rings: Return of the King had a budget of 94 million, for comparison. I know inflation, etc, but still not a huge amount more considering it had far more expensive actors.

    Never played Warcraft games and I'll go and see this most likely, looks like decent entertainment if nothing else.


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