If someone hurt / abused your kids...

Call Me Jimmy · 20-07-2009 02:13PM

I would hurt/abuse their kids in front of them. See how they like it. I'd stick my tongue out at them while doing it also.

citizen_p · 20-07-2009 02:14PM

mirwillbeback wrote: »

...would you REALLY be willing to kill them.

I hear it said a lot, often think it myself, but when it came to it, could you find it in your person to seek revenge?

:eek:

maybe not fuly kill them (others youd be jailed for a long time) ...but a beating maybe...

homerjay2005 · 20-07-2009 02:18PM

would i kill somebody? no. nothign is worth 25 years in jail. nothing. my kids would need support of a father, not somebody in jail for 25 years for murder.

i would probably however, make their life a misery and not make it worth living. id kick the living shi*e out of them to withing an inch of their life but make sure I covered my tracks to get away with it. id probably ensure their testicles had an incident involving a knot and unbearable pain also.

Nevyn · 20-07-2009 02:30PM

Ending up in prison means that you would have really fúcked up enough to be caught, prosecuted and scented to prison.

Yes I could, and depending on it killing would be too good for them and living out the rest of their days in crippling agony while paralysed may be the way to go.

Acacia · 20-07-2009 02:33PM

No torture porn revenge fantasies from me. I would however make sure they got the longest sentence possible. None of this serving a fraction of an already lenient sentence crap. Preferably, I'd like paedophiles/rapists to be locked up for life, like murderers. As far as I'm concerned they might as well have killed their victims, and I think there's probably a high chance of them re-offending. So they should be put away for the rest of their natural, more so for our protection, then their punishment, if nothing else.

This is all hypothetical, of course, I can't say for sure what I would actually do/ feel.

dearg lady · 20-07-2009 02:36PM

Acacia wrote: »

No, torture porn revenge fantasies from me. I would however make sure they got the longest sentence possible. None of this serving a fraction of an already lenient sentence crap. Preferably, I'd like paedophiles/rapists to be locked up for life, like murderers. As far as I'm concerned they might as well have killed their victims, and I think there's probably a high chance of them re-offending. So they should be put away for the rest of their natural, more so for our protection, then their punishment, if nothing else.

This is all hypothetical, of course, I can't say for sure what I would actually do/ feel.

Unfortunately you wouldn't have any say in how long their sentence is. Even so called 'life' sentences are what around 20-25 years, knock a few years off for good behaviour. The more I think about it, I start to change my mind, but would have to be very careful not to get caught.

Acacia · 20-07-2009 02:49PM

dearg lady wrote: »

Unfortunately you wouldn't have any say in how long their sentence is. Even so called 'life' sentences are what around 20-25 years, knock a few years off for good behaviour. The more I think about it, I start to change my mind, but would have to be very careful not to get caught.

That's very irritating. It's must be heart-breaking for families to see child rapists and the like serving short sentences after ruining their child's life. Horrible.

I don't get the whole 'good behaviour' thing also- woop-ti-do, they managed not to rape anyone in jail, they deserve a pat on the back for that. :rolleyes: I understand in the case of petty crime why it could be used to shorten a sentence , but in the case or murderers/rapists/ paedophiles, I really don't see why they should not serve out their full sentence because they were 'good' in jail.

/My two cents.

WillieCocker · 20-07-2009 02:57PM

Call Me Jimmy wrote: »

I would hurt/abuse their kids in front of them. See how they like it. I'd stick my tongue out at them while doing it also.

Wha.....

Sleepy · 20-07-2009 02:58PM

Morally I'd have no problem with it. Practically I'd be in the camp of 'well, I won't be much use to her if I'm in prison'.

I wouldn't have to worry about it much though. The perpetrator wouldn't be the first person who harmed his family that my daughter's grandad brought up the wicklow mountains in the back of a van...

dearg lady · 20-07-2009 02:59PM

Acacia wrote: »

That's very irritating. It's must be heart-breaking for families to see child rapists and the like serving short sentences after ruining their child's life. Horrible.

Yeah, horrendous I'd say. So bloody frustrating too! Take for example Simon Mc Ginley, I think he's been discussed a few times on here, but after raping a 13 year old girl, and receiving a lenient sentence(the judge called it this) after release from prison, he goes on to rape an 86 year old woman.
According to the newspapers he will be released aged 51, still with a lot of life left to live. I can only begin to imagine how his victims and their families feel about this.

seanybiker · 20-07-2009 03:03PM

I would take great pleasure out of kicking the person in the face a load of times. I wouldnt kill him because that would be to good for the bastid. I would torcher him. Humiliate him by pissing on him. Basically just make him remember the fear and helplessness(sp) he suffered till he dies.

Armin_Tamzarian · 20-07-2009 03:04PM

Biggins wrote: »

Yes.

/Rings Harney and tells her to get out while she still can.

ihadu · 20-07-2009 03:10PM

i agree with the frustration at seeing Simon Mc Ginley getting out after a short time only to reoffend. i can't imagine the suffering both familes are going through.
however, no one on here would carry out the acts they claim they would, this is evident to me as i've never heard of a case whereby a paedo was killed by a grieving family member.

dsmythy · 20-07-2009 03:11PM

After some digging.

It would appear to be ok to plead not guilty to killing a paedophile who abused your child in England.

Only found the one case from Russia where a father killed a man he caught abusing his son.

Trinity wrote: »

I'm morbid by nature anyway, fascinated by serial killers

From the same YouTube channel ya morbid so and so!

dearg lady · 20-07-2009 03:13PM

ihadu wrote: »

i agree with the frustration at seeing Simon Mc Ginley getting out after a short time only to reoffend. i can't imagine the suffering both familes are going through.
however, no one on here would carry out the acts they claim they would, this is evident to me as i've never heard of a case whereby a paedo was killed by a grieving family member.

Very true, I think people could well feel that way, but in the end it's not really feasible. It would probably have to pre meditated(unless as someone said a person was caught in the act, in which case they might get a bit of a hidin) and very carefully planned to avoid getting caught.

I guess we continue to have hope in the justice system, but are so often let down by it.

MarkR · 20-07-2009 03:20PM

I would have my vengence. Not sure to what extent. I also would have to come up with some elaborate plan, but I watch a lot of CSI, and have a identical twin brother. Reasonable doubt my ass. Same DNA seemingly.

You'll never catch me! Bwa ha ha.

MoonDancer · 20-07-2009 03:27PM

I have trouble killing spiders, and I hope never to be in that suituation. Ever!

Found this video on youtube.
Father kills his son's kidnapper.
You can see the shooting, but it's not graphic.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oi3Hyxuf5AE&feature=related

donojono · 20-07-2009 03:50PM

Going back about 10 years! Anyone from finglas will remember the day A traveller ran into the post office took out a big machete and Chopped off the hand of a Paedo that abused one of their children. Justice was served that day.

Answer to OP is NO unless it was to defend them, then I would kill.

SV · 20-07-2009 04:54PM

I don't think I would kill unless I had a child that had been killed by this person.

If it was the abuse thing however, they would most certainly be put in intensive care for as long as possible.
Whether i could stop myself from killing them in the process of beating them up.. I'm not sure.

chezzer · 20-07-2009 04:58PM

KTRIC wrote: »

They'd be stuffed into the back of a van in various plastic bags and then buried in the mountains.

That would be after the blow torch and pliers treatment.

Don't brand me as a keyboard warrior, I would have no qualms about carrying this out.

Yeah that will really help your kid get through it with a parent in Jail...

mirwillbeback · 20-07-2009 05:03PM

n/a

AckwelFoley · 20-07-2009 05:14PM

mirwillbeback wrote: »

...would you REALLY be willing to kill them.

I hear it said a lot, often think it myself, but when it came to it, could you find it in your person to seek revenge?

:eek:

I dont have any children yet that i know of..

however - my little niece sarah .. shes only 10 months.. if anyone goes near her before her 35th birthday i make an open testiment now on the internet.. i will kill them to put them out of the misery i will impose on them for the preceeding 48/72 hours before their death.

AckwelFoley · 20-07-2009 05:22PM

.. to be practical for a second ..

I see including mine all the posts of rawr.. id killem id killem .. but the reality is sadly worse. I know a very close friend of mine was raped in their early teens, the family wanted to do have revenge however .. reality is a cold chill.. if the victims family do something like they would like to, they will share a cell with the accused. This then only increases the trauma on the family.

99% of us are law abiding citizens, the reality is we would take this event on the chin and put "our faith" in the law dealing with it. Our time as relatives and loved ones of the victim is best served at home supporting the victim.

That being said.. my temper over rules my rational thinking, now, in the past and no doubt in the future..

Trinity · 20-07-2009 05:56PM

ihadu wrote: »

i'm not holding you to this post, just making the point that most people i know say something similar. then i ask, "you will literally try to get away with murder?"
they all stop talking nonsense and agree that they wouldn't do anything, not even hit the guy...unless caught in the act

Well to be quite honest about it (granted i am still a bit drunk

) i am not one of those people, luckily I have not been in that position but I cant imagine NOT doing anything.

ihadu · 20-07-2009 06:06PM

Trinity wrote: »

Well to be quite honest about it (granted i am still a bit drunk ) i am not one of those people, luckily I have not been in that position but I cant imagine NOT doing anything.

your reaction will purely serve your own end, it'll doing nothing for the victim. this has been mentioned before and everyone said they'd take their own justice but this isn't the case, there's no evidence of this happening in ireland (1 or 2 cases isn't a good sample of events)

Nevyn · 20-07-2009 06:09PM

ihadu wrote: »

your reaction will purely serve your own end, it'll doing nothing for the victim. this has been mentioned before and everyone said they'd take their own justice but this isn't the case, there's no evidence of this happening in ireland (1 or 2 cases isn't a good sample of events)

That could just mean that those who have been doing it have gotten it very right.

dearg lady · 20-07-2009 06:15PM

snyper wrote: »

.. to be practical for a second ..

I see including mine all the posts of rawr.. id killem id killem .. but the reality is sadly worse. I know a very close friend of mine was raped in their early teens, the family wanted to do have revenge however .. reality is a cold chill.. if the victims family do something like they would like to, they will share a cell with the accused. This then only increases the trauma on the family.

99% of us are law abiding citizens, the reality is we would take this event on the chin and put "our faith" in the law dealing with it. Our time as relatives and loved ones of the victim is best served at home supporting the victim.

That being said.. my temper over rules my rational thinking, now, in the past and no doubt in the future..

+1
until you're in the situation it's hard to know what you would with certainty

ihadu · 20-07-2009 06:18PM

Thaedydal wrote: »

That could just mean that those who have been doing it have gotten it very right.

justice to meet your own end doesn't equal right.

goldenbrown · 20-07-2009 06:18PM

would be before the court

Rented Mule · 20-07-2009 06:47PM

mirwillbeback wrote: »

...would you REALLY be willing to kill them.

I hear it said a lot, often think it myself, but when it came to it, could you find it in your person to seek revenge?

With every fibre of my being.

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